Shoes, mtb, bear traps

Terry, make the jump to cleated pedals and shoes. No going back.

Donga

Donga said:

Terry, make the jump to cleated pedals and shoes. No going back.

Only if you've done them up too tight and can't undo the laces/straps on
the shoes. 😉

Graeme

Terry Collins said:

With the discussion on discounted lights at Rebel[1] and the mention of
shoes, I thought I'd ask for brand recommendations so I can update my
footwear. The specialised have basically worn out, and the KT26s are
fine for walking and gp use, but too soft in the sole for bike pedals.

As subject say, mtb use (NO cleats), bear trap pedals and straps, wide feet.

Seriously, why no cleats? MTB use deoes not preclude their use, and
they are *so* much better than toestraps.

Bleve said:

Seriously, why no cleats? MTB use deoes not preclude their use, and they
are *so* much better than toestraps.

If you've got pedals on several bikes, years of experience, and are doing
a fair bit of walking, I can see it. I prefer being clipped in myself, but
horses for courses.

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Quoted message said:

With the discussion on discounted lights at Rebel[1] and the mention of
shoes, I thought I'd ask for brand recommendations so I can update my
footwear. The specialised have basically worn out, and the KT26s are
fine for walking and gp use, but too soft in the sole for bike pedals.

As subject say, mtb use (NO cleats), bear trap pedals and straps, wide
feet.

TIA.

[1] I visited our new Rebel store last night and went woah. It would
take a year just to work out which brands are good for cycling. Perhaps
that is an indicator that I should go elsewhere, because whilst
everthing else was categorised by activity, the shoes were just shoes.

Mate, cleats, cleats, cleats. Make sure you take some mates with you on
your first few rides - they deserve the joy. Expect a few light (almost
always at zero speed) falls and an elevated status with your gleeful
friends. After that, you'll be tons more efficient than ever possible with
those horrible cages.

Most important - shoes that are properly fitted and which will dry quickly
when (not if) they fill with mud/water.

I know you don't want cleats, but take it from everyone who rides with
them - there is *no* going back. For my money, I use the Time Atac variety.
They never clog and are exactly the same whether you're riding in dust, mud
or heavy rain. Just my opinion.

Cheers,
Dave E (Sydney)

Dave E said:

Mate, cleats, cleats, cleats. Make sure you take some mates with you on
your first few rides - they deserve the joy. Expect a few light (almost
always at zero speed) falls and an elevated status with your gleeful
friends. After that, you'll be tons more efficient than ever possible with
those horrible cages.

Meh. I haven't fallen over yet. Yes, that's taunting the gods but they're all [censored] anyway. Anyone got any copper armour I can borrow?

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Quoted message said:

Dave E said:

Mate, cleats, cleats, cleats. Make sure you take some mates with you
on
your first few rides - they deserve the joy. Expect a few light
(almost
always at zero speed) falls and an elevated status with your gleeful
friends. After that, you'll be tons more efficient than ever possible
with
those horrible cages.

Meh. I haven't fallen over yet. Yes, that's taunting the gods but
they're all [censored] anyway. Anyone got any copper armour I can borrow?

Got them yesterday? Go on - you deserve it. Languish in the grips of
gravity. If not for yourself, do it for your buddies. Hehe

I'm off for a 5 hour mud session tomorrow morning and will be probably
cursing my cleats from time to time. Can't wait! :-)

Cheers,
Dave E (Sydney)

Dave E said:

Quoted message said:

Meh. I haven't fallen over yet. Yes, that's taunting the gods but
they're all [censored] anyway. Anyone got any copper armour I can borrow?

Got them yesterday? Go on - you deserve it. Languish in the grips of
gravity. If not for yourself, do it for your buddies. Hehe

I'm off for a 5 hour mud session tomorrow morning and will be probably
cursing my cleats from time to time. Can't wait! :-)

Cheers,
Dave E (Sydney)

More than a month ago. I haven't been playing in the mud though as they're on road bikes (OCR3 and the fixie) even though they're MTB pedals and shoes.

Bleve said:

Terry Collins said:

With the discussion on discounted lights at Rebel[1] and the mention of
shoes, I thought I'd ask for brand recommendations so I can update my
footwear. The specialised have basically worn out, and the KT26s are
fine for walking and gp use, but too soft in the sole for bike pedals.

As subject say, mtb use (NO cleats), bear trap pedals and straps, wide feet.

Seriously, why no cleats?

40+ years of quack quack feet!
I can fall off the bike and crack my knees enough now, without having to
remember that I no longer have straps and need to use another action to
disengage.

Actually, that is fall over without getting my feet out in time now.

Okay, I guess everyone here rides with cleats.

Quoted message said:

MTB use deoes not preclude their use, and
they are *so* much better than toestraps.

I have toe straps, but they don't get used that much.

Quoted message said:

Dave E said:

After that, you'll be tons more efficient than ever possible with
those horrible cages.

No, there are about twenty things I could do to be more efficent before
I need to resort to cleats.

Quoted message said:

Most important - shoes that are properly fitted and which will dry quickly
when (not if) they fill with mud/water.

Sandals?

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Quoted message said:

As subject say, mtb use (NO cleats), bear trap pedals and straps, wide feet.

Something like these might be OK

http://www.phantomcycles.com.au/product.php?productid=1394&cat=84&page=1

They're designed for use with cleats, but could be used without and are comfortable to walk around in. Specialized also have
something similar in their range.

Parbs

Resound said:

Meh. I haven't fallen over yet. Yes, that's taunting the gods but
they're all [censored] anyway. Anyone got any copper armour I can borrow?

Me either. Well, not due to being clipped in anyway 😉

Tim, if you're using straps, you might as well swap to clipless. They
are actually easier to get out of than toe straps. Most of them have
some amount of adjustment so you can make sure you can get out of them
quick if you need to. Once you've used them for a bit, you'll never go
back. I don't even think about what my foot is supposed to do to get
out them now, it just happens.

Terry Collins said:

Quoted message said:

Most important - shoes that are properly fitted and which will dry
quickly
when (not if) they fill with mud/water.

Sandals?

Yes, Shimano make some good sandals for cycling with cleats. Like this:
http://www.phantomcycles.com.au/product.php?productid=1988&cat=84&page=1

They work very well. I'd advise against using them off on the
fire-trails/single-track however. Too many sticks can get thrown up to
impale your tootsies (speaking from experience). They're great as summer
touring footwear though and are a lot cooler than shoes.

Most shops don't stock them as they're not a big seller and the distributors
only sell them to shops in boxes of 10. If you get lucky (as I did) you may
find a shop with one or two left that they want to get out the door at half
price. My LBS had one left, my size to sell to me for $70.

Cheers
Peter

Peter Signorini said:

"Terry Collins" wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Sandals?

Yes, Shimano make some good sandals for cycling with cleats. Like this:
http://www.phantomcycles.com.au/product.php?productid=1988&cat=84&page=1

Thanks to peeps for the phantomcycles links.
Turns out they are actually in my back yard
and helps answer a question of a few years back of
"why is Tahmoor suddenly being presented as a bicycling mecca?"

Quoted message said:

They work very well. I'd advise against using them off on the
fire-trails/single-track however. Too many sticks can get thrown up to
impale your tootsies (speaking from experience). They're great as summer
touring footwear though and are a lot cooler than shoes.

I actually use a number of shoes and sandals depending on condition of
feet and weather. Been there, done that with the stickies (ouchies).

I first twigged to sandals as a tourer. It was so much easier to accept
wet feet and wear sandals in the rain. Also easier to sluice them out in
muddy conditions.

Terry Collins said:

Thanks to peeps for the phantomcycles links. Turns out they are actually
in my back yard and helps answer a question of a few years back of "why
is Tahmoor suddenly being presented as a bicycling mecca?"

That's a delightful indication of just how important a shop front really
is. There are still quite a few people who find it easier to go in to town
than to sit on their [censored] at work and order bike stuff on the internet.

That said, I've never set foot in Kerry's shop, but I've always had
flawless customer service from him.

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Dave Hughes | [email hidden]
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avoids needless violence and gunplay together, is our motto.

Random Data said:

That said, I've never set foot in Kerry's shop, but I've always had
flawless customer service from him.

That's possibly a good thing, its even easier for Kerry to empty your wallet in the shop than it is for him to do it via the internet. ;-)

Parbs