Shoe suggestions

"A few years ago Saucony
Jazz worked for me, but that line seems
Gone. I saw an ad for Saucony Grid
Something or other."
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RichD said:

I'm looking for advice on a pair of running shoes. There are so many
models available in the stores, it makes my head spin.

I do about 15 miles per week. I wear orthotics, don't need lateral
stability or anything, not looking for performance or racing, mostly
I want cushioning.

Do your feet really want much cushioning? If you're wearing orthotics,
chances they are there for support of some sort. Cushioning may negate
that effect - but it depends on your biomechanics.

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I could spring for a pair of high end Nike Air, but I'm also looking
to economize. Is it necessary to spend $90+ for quality?

no

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Can one
get decent shoes for under $50?

yes - look for closeout sales on last year's models. See the thread
below for discussion and links to places to look.
http://tinyurl.com/5v998

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A few years ago Saucony Jazz worked for me, but that line seems
gone. I saw an ad for Saucony Grid something or other, "on sale $45,
regularly $79". Anyone know anything about them, recommend
for/against?

There's many models that start with "Saucony Grid". I used to wear
Saucony Grid Stabils, then my PT switched me out of them and most of my foot
problems disappeared - but that's *me* and my feet.
You need to find what works for you.

Oh, yeah, and if find something that works for you, stock up on them,
esp. if you buy last year's discontinued model.

Dot

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The goal is training and adaptation, not destruction and injury.
- John Hardy
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Quoted message said:

I'm looking for advice on a pair of running shoes. There are so many
models available in the stores, it makes my head spin.

I do about 15 miles per week.

Dude,
At this mileage you can wear the boxes, or just go barefoot. If you need orthos
to run 15 miles a week, you need to toss them and the shoes, because
something's very wrong. You can do 15 miles barefoot, and in this case you are
probably better off, and I'd bet you'd have fewer problems.

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I could spring for a pair of high end Nike Air,

That's the worse thing with orthos. My understanding is you need a firm base
for orthos, and the nike air-line is garbage anyway, but is soft, you need the
opposite.

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but I'm also looking
to economize. Is it necessary to spend $90+ for quality?

You won't get quality in nikes, ands certainly not for $90.

Quoted message said:

Can one
get decent shoes for under $50?

For 15 miles a week? Yes. Just about anything will do.

Quoted message said:

A few years ago Saucony Jazz worked for me, but that line seems
gone. I saw an ad for Saucony Grid something or other, "on sale $45,
regularly $79". Anyone know anything about them, recommend
for/against?

Nope, but I'd go with Asics if I were you. I bet 2090's and you could dump
those orthos.

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You won't get quality in nikes, ands certainly not for $90.

_________

Nike Air Streak, $40 in every size at Footlocker.com.

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I do about 15 miles per week. I wear orthotics, don't need lateral
stability or anything, not looking for performance or racing, mostly
I want cushioning.

As Dot said but I'll embellish, you can't stuff your feet and the
orthotics in a flimsy shoe. It's like taping your orthotics to the
bottom of your feet and placing each foot in a canoe. Luckily for you
there are cushioned stability shoes out there.

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I could spring for a pair of high end Nike Air, but I'm also looking
to economize. Is it necessary to spend $90+ for quality? Can one
get decent shoes for under $50?

For under $50 you looking at fire sales of one and two year old models.
Since you have already invested in orthoics buying cheap shoes will
likely get you back to the podiatrist. Look for some other place to
economize. At 15 miles a week your looking at two pairs a year.

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A few years ago Saucony Jazz worked for me, but that line seems
gone.

Before or after the orthotics?

Quoted message said:

I saw an ad for Saucony Grid something or other, "on sale $45,
regularly $79". Anyone know anything about them, recommend
for/against?

This is a fire sale and they way you will get a shoe for under $50.
OTOH, this is cushioned shoe and I would be very leery of stability.

-Doug

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OTOH, this is cushioned shoe and I would be very leery of stability.

Just as I said, orthos and cushioned shoes, likely the only thing you'll get
for $50) don't mix.

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Nike Air Streak, $40 in every size at Footlocker.com.

True, but you'll need 4 pairs a year instead of two with a quality running shoe
like Asics. You do the math, plus consider you'll likely get ankle, knee, and
hip strain with nikes too.

PS: Here's a link to all the "Saucony Grid" shoes including the Jazz,
that's still around.
http://www.saucony.com/product_matrix.aspx?category=training&type=m

FabulustRunner said:

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OTOH, this is cushioned shoe and I would be very leery of stability.

Just as I said, orthos and cushioned shoes, likely the only thing you'll get
for $50) don't mix.

The top models in Asics stability are available at clearance now -- Kayano,
DS Trainer, and 2080. The 2080 is available in all sizes. A bunch of Mizuno's
stability shoes (Alchemy, Legend, Maverick) are also available at clearance
now.

Cheers,
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Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

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The top models in Asics stability are available at clearance now -- Kayano,
DS Trainer, and 2080.

Um, isn't the 2090 the top asics shoe?

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FabulustRunner said:

Quoted message said:

OTOH, this is cushioned shoe and I would be very leery of stability.

Just as I said, orthos and cushioned shoes, likely the only thing
you'll get
for $50) don't mix.

The top models in Asics stability are available at clearance now --
Kayano,
DS Trainer, and 2080. The 2080 is available in all sizes.

Where did you see 2080's in all sizes? When I found the 90's did not
work for me I tried to find some 80's and I looked at oodles of web
pages and no 13EE were in the ball park. If you know of a place that may
have refueled, I like to know.

-Doug

Doug Freese said:

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FabulustRunner said:

>OTOH, this is cushioned shoe and I would be very leery of stability.
>

Just as I said, orthos and cushioned shoes, likely the only thing
you'll get
for $50) don't mix.

The top models in Asics stability are available at clearance now --
Kayano,
DS Trainer, and 2080. The 2080 is available in all sizes.

Where did you see 2080's in all sizes? When I found the 90's did not

Oops, not quite all sizes.

eastbay. But they only go up to 12 (regular and 4e)

Cheers,
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Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

FabulustRunner said:

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The top models in Asics stability are available at clearance now -- Kayano,
DS Trainer, and 2080.

Um, isn't the 2090 the top asics shoe?

No, the 2100 (-; They're different releases of the same model, so I don't think
of them as distinct shoes.

Cheers,
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Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

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FabulustRunner said:

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The top models in Asics stability are available at clearance now --
Kayano,
DS Trainer, and 2080.

Um, isn't the 2090 the top asics shoe?

No, the 2100 (-;

Correcto!

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< They're different releases of the same model, so I don't think
of them as distinct shoes.

Yes and no. 😉 It depnds on how much difference you want to attribute
to the redesign of the sole(lugs, stress/flex points, etc). I think the
90's fell off the podium and Asics brought them back in line with this
redesign. You are correct in they are a continuation of the 20NN series.
I did 3.5 hours yesterday and they passed muster. A 50k in a few weeks
and then I'll see if they get the golden shoe award which means I order
a bunch of pairs.

-Doug

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No, the 2100 (-; They're different releases of the same model, so I don't
think
of them as distinct shoes.

Allright, you get off on a technicality this time, but if it happens again I'm
going to levy a 30 day NG priveliges suspension. Con sider yourself on
probation.

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I did 3.5 hours yesterday

You wear your shoes to whack off in? Or do you "do" your shoes?

Doug Freese said:

and then I'll see if they get the golden shoe award which means

sorry, I had to stop reading at this point (-;

Cheers,
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Donovan Rebbechi
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