shock jocks and bikes

"Penny S" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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Have any of you been following the incidents of Clear Channel

Communications

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and their DJ's promoting activities such as running cyclists off the road and throwing things from
cars at cyclists? Granted this is a mountain

biking

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group, but this is kind of scary. This has happened in Cleveland,

Raleigh

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NC, Houston and San Jose. The MO seems to be get everyone riled up, and then to throw conscience
money at a local cycling cause, and then move on

to

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another market.

anyway, here'a link to the Cleveland incident.

chicagotriclub.comShowThread.aspOpen ↗

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houston incident;

roadbikerider.comyt10.htmOpen ↗

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That's horrible! Hate crimes against anyone are bad, but even worse (for me) when it's a group I'm
connected with.

Just another piece of evidence that Clear Channel is the Devil! I hate them!

Matt (listening to great, independent public radio streaming from www.kexp.org)

"Penny S" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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Have any of you been following the incidents of Clear Channel

Communications

Quoted message said:

and their DJ's promoting activities such as running cyclists off the road and throwing things from
cars at cyclists? Granted this is a mountain

biking

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group, but this is kind of scary. This has happened in Cleveland,

Raleigh

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NC, Houston and San Jose. The MO seems to be get everyone riled up, and then to throw conscience
money at a local cycling cause, and then move on

to

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another market.

anyway, here'a link to the Cleveland incident.

chicagotriclub.comShowThread.aspOpen ↗

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houston incident;

roadbikerider.comyt10.htmOpen ↗

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It's being discussed pretty heavily on a lot of bike web boards, I can provide links to those
boards and lists of CCC's major advertisers and

so

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on it if anyone wants.

I'm not a road rider, but last thing we need is idiot DJs encouraging

people

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to hurt cyclists

This is the number one reason why I will never own a road bike, and scared as hell to ride a mtb on
road. I read about the tragedy in Texas. The story was posted in great detail on the local club
site, as it hit real close to home.

We lost three riders locally in two separate incidents. One was a 17 y.o. with a very promising
future in cycling, whose parents are very close friends with my sister. So close in fact, the mother
was on the phone with my sister as they took the ride to the hospital to ID their son. He was a
great kid, and a tragic loss, as where the rest.

This really angers me what these idiots have done.

"Penny S" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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Have any of you been following the incidents of Clear Channel

Communications

Quoted message said:

and their DJ's promoting activities such as running cyclists off the road and throwing things from
cars at cyclists? Granted this is a mountain

biking

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group, but this is kind of scary. This has happened in Cleveland,

Raleigh

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NC, Houston and San Jose.

It's very scary. While they're at it, why not advocate running down pedestrians? And children? After
all, why do people think they can just walk across the intersection when I'm trying to turn the
corner?? Get out of my way! I'm driving a car! I own the road!

That the shock jocks advocate road rage fantasies should tell us that we've gone too far as a
society. It's not about free speech: It's about responsible speech. (FWIW: I'm a card-carrying
member of the ACLU, and I take free speech seriously.)

Favorite bumper sticker: "Hang up the phone and DRIVE!!"

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The MO seems to be get everyone riled up, and then to throw conscience money at a local cycling
cause, and then move on

to

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another market.

I'm sure your analysis is correct. Their motives are repugnant, and their actions should be
considered criminal incitement.

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I'm not a road rider, but last thing we need is idiot DJs encouraging

people

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to hurt cyclists

Cycling is becoming much more visible, as more and more people take responsibility for the
environment and for their own health, and choose to ride a bike as transportation (as most of the
rest of the world has done for 100+ years).

FWIW: Automobiles used to be scapegoated when they were first introduced. The "horseless carriage"
was reviled by many (for good reason), and became the butt of many jokes. It wasn't until the auto
became affordable and ubiquitous (Model T) that it became accepted by the general populous. Of
course, the same thing happened to bicycles when they were first introduced in the late 1800's. Not
everyone universally loved bikes.

-=B=-

MattB scrawled in bright red lipstick:

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Just another piece of evidence that Clear Channel is the Devil! I hate them!

Matt (listening to great, independent public radio streaming from www.kexp.org)

what kind of format? I'm getting into web radio, being solitary in my workroom is getting really old
and I am always looking for new stuff to listen to.

Penny

"B. Sanders" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:pfLcb.430723$Oz4.229077@rwcrnsc54...

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FWIW: I'm a card-carrying member of the ACLU

-=B=-

Now that's classic!!

Why didn't you say so before?
--
Slacker

MattB scrawled in bright red lipstick:

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Just another piece of evidence that Clear Channel is the Devil! I

hate them!

] speaking of the devil, Dr Laura ( who professes to be a road rider these days) is distributed by
CCC. Maybe it's time to drop her a fax asking her to "do the right thing" in regards to Clear
Channel and thier idiot djs

P,

"Penny S" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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MattB scrawled in bright red lipstick:

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Just another piece of evidence that Clear Channel is the Devil! I hate them!

Matt (listening to great, independent public radio streaming from www.kexp.org)

what kind of format? I'm getting into web radio, being solitary in my workroom is getting really
old and I am always looking for new stuff to listen to.

Penny

The best format - none! It's really ecclectic. You'll hear something twangy, something electronic,
hip hop, and just about everything else on any given day. Give them a listen. They also archive
shows, so if you like a specific show you can just listen to that. They are my favorite station. I
give them money.

I also like radioparadise.com, which is rock, but sometimes it's too vanilla for me. Kcrw.org is
also pretty cool and eclectic.

Matt

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I'm not a road rider, but last thing we need is idiot DJs encouraging

people

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to hurt cyclists

Penny

From my understanding, the disc jockeys were joking around, and it got a little out of hand. Clear
Channel offered public appologies. What more to this issue is there?

-John Morgan
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"I tried lube, careful prying, careful digging and even not so careful digging. Little chunks of
rubber." --Sad Bob

John Morgan said:

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I'm not a road rider, but last thing we need is idiot DJs encouraging

people

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to hurt cyclists

Penny

From my understanding, the disc jockeys were joking around, and it got a little out of hand. Clear
Channel offered public appologies. What more to this issue is there?

-John Morgan

Apparently it keeps happening.

Let's see if they want to play hardball. Find out where the jocks live, how many children they have,
who their spouse is, and make it public knowledge. Be sure word of this gets back to them.

--
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Lynn Wallace xmission.com~lawallOpen ↗ "I'm not proud. We really haven't done everything we
could to protect our customers. Our products just aren't engineered for security." --Microsoft VP in
charge of Windows OS Development, Brian Valentine.

Penny S said:

Have any of you been following the incidents of Clear Channel Communications and their DJ's
promoting activities such as running cyclists off the road and throwing things from cars at
cyclists? Granted this is a mountain biking group, but this is kind of scary. This has happened in
Cleveland, Raleigh NC, Houston and San Jose. The MO seems to be get everyone riled up, and then to
throw conscience money at a local cycling cause, and then move on to another market.

anyway, here'a link to the Cleveland incident.
chicagotriclub.comShowThread.aspOpen ↗

houston incident;
roadbikerider.comyt10.htmOpen ↗

It's being discussed pretty heavily on a lot of bike web boards, I can provide links to those
boards and lists of CCC's major advertisers and so on it if anyone wants.

I'm not a road rider, but last thing we need is idiot DJs encouraging people to hurt cyclists

Penny

yeah, I read about that over at RM as well. What a load of horse she-ot! I'm just waiting for the
Regular Guy's to broach this in the ATL market here. It's a million+ market so I've been wondering
when this [censored] would hit here...Too bad it's the local AOR station, the same one I've been listining
too since 73' I hope they don't go there, cuz it'll hurt my feelings to have to vent on the F.U line
down here...

MattB said:

"Penny S" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Have any of you been following the incidents of Clear Channel

Communications

Quoted message said:

and their DJ's promoting activities such as running cyclists off the road and throwing things
from cars at cyclists? Granted this is a mountain

biking

Quoted message said:

group, but this is kind of scary. This has happened in Cleveland,

Raleigh

Quoted message said:

NC, Houston and San Jose. The MO seems to be get everyone riled up, and then to throw conscience
money at a local cycling cause, and then move on

to

Quoted message said:

another market.

anyway, here'a link to the Cleveland incident.

chicagotriclub.comShowThread.aspOpen ↗

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houston incident;

roadbikerider.comyt10.htmOpen ↗

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That's horrible! Hate crimes against anyone are bad, but even worse (for me) when it's a group I'm
connected with.

Just another piece of evidence that Clear Channel is the Devil! I hate them!

Matt (listening to great, independent public radio streaming from www.kexp.org)

Streaming is definetly where it's at. (long live WINAMP!) too bad I can't get it in my car
though..or at work!

John Morgan said:

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I'm not a road rider, but last thing we need is idiot DJs encouraging

people

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to hurt cyclists

Penny

From my understanding, the disc jockeys were joking around, and it got a little out of hand. Clear
Channel offered public appologies. What more to this issue is there?

-John Morgan

the seed was planted, and you KNOW some asswipe with a low IQ will believe it at face value, and try
to implement. It may not have happened yet....wait for it!

John Morgan scrawled in bright red lipstick:

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I'm not a road rider, but last thing we need is idiot DJs encouraging people to hurt cyclists

Penny

From my understanding, the disc jockeys were joking around, and it got a little out of hand. Clear
Channel offered public appologies. What more to this issue is there?

-John Morgan

At least four different cities: Houston, Raleigh, San Jose and Houston. Encouraging people to door
bikers and run them off the road? Encouraging drivers to keep empty Yahoo bottles in their car to
throw at riders? Calling bike riders " moving targets"? Awarding callers who agree with these points
of view gift certificates? ( and yes I have links to back this up)

You've got a pretty weird sense of humor.

Sure CCC threw some money at "safe routes for school" in Cleveland and the FCC made them air some
area public service announcements. So why does this go on in multiple markets?

Here's the really "devilish" part. Dr Laura who for the most part is heard on CCC stations purports
to be a road rider. I think I'll fax her about CCC "doing the right thing"...

Penny

Penny S said:

MattB scrawled in bright red lipstick:

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Just another piece of evidence that Clear Channel is the Devil! I hate them!

Matt (listening to great, independent public radio streaming from www.kexp.org)

what kind of format? I'm getting into web radio, being solitary in my workroom is getting really
old and I am always looking for new stuff to listen to.

Penny

Try shoutcast.com, (you'll need winamp!) all genres and formats are represented...it's the shiznit!

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Have any of you been following the incidents of Clear Channel

Communications

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and their DJ's promoting activities such as running cyclists off the road and throwing things from
cars at cyclists?

Anyone who hasn't been harassed by a cage has not been riding long. It's best to assume whoever is
coming up behind you is going to throw something at you or try to run you off the road.

I cannot stand the even short rides I have to make on the streets to get to the local trails. They
are far more dangerous than any cliff I may encounter offroad. I will never ride a road bike for
this reason. At least on my motorcycle I'm going their speed.

"John Morgan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:c3Mcb.16975$vj2.8357@fed1read06...

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I'm not a road rider, but last thing we need is idiot DJs encouraging

people

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to hurt cyclists

Penny

From my understanding, the disc jockeys were joking around, and it got a little out of hand. Clear
Channel offered public appologies. What more to this issue is there?

Encouraging acts of violent assault and possibly murder?

--
Cameron

Penny S said:

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Matt (listening to great, independent public radio streaming from www.kexp.org)

what kind of format? I'm getting into web radio, being solitary in my workroom is getting really
old and I am always looking for new stuff to listen to.

I like www.virginradio.co.uk. Win MP, Real, MP3 and Ogg.

"bomba" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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Penny S said:

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Matt (listening to great, independent public radio streaming from www.kexp.org)

what kind of format? I'm getting into web radio, being solitary in my workroom is getting really
old and I am always looking for new stuff to listen to.

I like www.virginradio.co.uk. Win MP, Real, MP3 and Ogg.

Just tuned in (switched to Liquid because the main station was playing Bon Jovi!). Do you know if
you can listen to these streams in WinAmp? The options presented to me were Real Audio (yuck!) or
WMP (only slightly better). I don't have time to really mess with it, but I like my WinAmp! I'm
familiar with it, it works well, and I can choose which audio interface to send the sound to.

On my home system I have two sound cards. One is the default connected to PC speakers for system
sounds. The other is a Hoontech DSP24v with an optical interface that I use to feed my Denon DA-20
and JBLs. WinAmp lets me send music to the good system and keep the system sounds on the little
speakers. I haven't found another player that can do that.

Matt

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"bomba" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Penny S said:

> Matt (listening to great, independent public radio streaming from www.kexp.org)

what kind of format? I'm getting into web radio, being solitary in my workroom is getting really
old and I am always looking for new stuff to listen to.

I like www.virginradio.co.uk. Win MP, Real, MP3 and Ogg.

Just tuned in (switched to Liquid because the main station was playing Bon Jovi!). Do you know if
you can listen to these streams in WinAmp? The options presented to me were Real Audio (yuck!) or
WMP (only slightly better). I don't have time to really mess with it, but I like my WinAmp! I'm
familiar with it, it works well, and I can choose which audio interface to send the sound to.

On my home system I have two sound cards. One is the default connected to PC speakers for system
sounds. The other is a Hoontech DSP24v with an optical interface that I use to feed my Denon DA-20
and JBLs. WinAmp lets me send music to the good system and keep the system sounds on the little
speakers. I haven't found another player that can do that.

Matt

Just checking out KEPX right now. Anyone remember KTCL out of Ft Collins?

Winamp, eh? That's a download or is it in XP somewhere?

keep the suggestions coming

thanks

penny