Shin splints

Hey David

I went from a Nike to Asics, but I already had the shin splints just
before I bought the new shoes. I was hoping the switch would help???

David Geesaman said:

If you haven't made any significant changes in training/volume, it's
probably the shoes. Not what you wanted to hear, but shoes have a lot todo
with shin splints.

The Kayano XI is a good sturdy shoe, but if it's significantly different in
motion control than your previous pair, can still cause problems. Once you
find a brand/construction/model that works, stick with it.

Dave

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"kricket" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
I am training for my first marathon (which is in Jan). I'm starting to
experience some major set backs. Shin Splints. I can't seem to get rid
of them. I stopped running for two weeks. I have been supplimenting my
running by using the elliptical machine, cycling, and yoga. However, I
am still experiencing lots of pain. What can I do?

I did buy new shoes about three weeks ago. I have the Asics
Gel-Kayano® XI.

I'm very concerned that I have only to date run up to 12 miles and only
have two months left to train.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Hey David

I went from a Nike to Asics, but I already had the shin splints just
before I bought the new shoes. I was hoping the switch would help???

David Geesaman said:

If you haven't made any significant changes in training/volume, it's
probably the shoes. Not what you wanted to hear, but shoes have a lot todo
with shin splints.

The Kayano XI is a good sturdy shoe, but if it's significantly different in
motion control than your previous pair, can still cause problems. Once you
find a brand/construction/model that works, stick with it.

Dave

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"kricket" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
I am training for my first marathon (which is in Jan). I'm starting to
experience some major set backs. Shin Splints. I can't seem to get rid
of them. I stopped running for two weeks. I have been supplimenting my
running by using the elliptical machine, cycling, and yoga. However, I
am still experiencing lots of pain. What can I do?

I did buy new shoes about three weeks ago. I have the Asics
Gel-Kayano® XI.

I'm very concerned that I have only to date run up to 12 miles and only
have two months left to train.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Hey David

I went from a Nike to Asics, but I already had the shin splints just
before I bought the new shoes. I was hoping the switch would help???

David Geesaman said:

If you haven't made any significant changes in training/volume, it's
probably the shoes. Not what you wanted to hear, but shoes have a lot todo
with shin splints.

The Kayano XI is a good sturdy shoe, but if it's significantly different in
motion control than your previous pair, can still cause problems. Once you
find a brand/construction/model that works, stick with it.

Dave

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"kricket" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
I am training for my first marathon (which is in Jan). I'm starting to
experience some major set backs. Shin Splints. I can't seem to get rid
of them. I stopped running for two weeks. I have been supplimenting my
running by using the elliptical machine, cycling, and yoga. However, I
am still experiencing lots of pain. What can I do?

I did buy new shoes about three weeks ago. I have the Asics
Gel-Kayano® XI.

I'm very concerned that I have only to date run up to 12 miles and only
have two months left to train.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Hey David

I went from a Nike to Asics, but I already had the shin splints just
before I bought the new shoes. I was hoping the switch would help???

David Geesaman said:

If you haven't made any significant changes in training/volume, it's
probably the shoes. Not what you wanted to hear, but shoes have a lot todo
with shin splints.

The Kayano XI is a good sturdy shoe, but if it's significantly different in
motion control than your previous pair, can still cause problems. Once you
find a brand/construction/model that works, stick with it.

Dave

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"kricket" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
I am training for my first marathon (which is in Jan). I'm starting to
experience some major set backs. Shin Splints. I can't seem to get rid
of them. I stopped running for two weeks. I have been supplimenting my
running by using the elliptical machine, cycling, and yoga. However, I
am still experiencing lots of pain. What can I do?

I did buy new shoes about three weeks ago. I have the Asics
Gel-Kayano® XI.

I'm very concerned that I have only to date run up to 12 miles and only
have two months left to train.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

kricket said:

I went from a Nike to Asics, but I already had the shin splints just
before I bought the new shoes. I was hoping the switch would help???

You went from "[censored]" to "great". However, if you already had shin
plints, not even the greatest shoe in the world will magically heal
you. Rest, try again.

kricket said:

I went from a Nike to Asics, but I already had the shin splints just
before I bought the new shoes. I was hoping the switch would help???

You went from "[censored]" to "great". However, if you already had shin
plints, not even the greatest shoe in the world will magically heal
you. Rest, try again.

kricket said:

I went from a Nike to Asics, but I already had the shin splints just
before I bought the new shoes. I was hoping the switch would help???

You went from "[censored]" to "great". However, if you already had shin
plints, not even the greatest shoe in the world will magically heal
you. Rest, try again.

It can be a tough combination to pin down, especially if you had the shin
splints before the switch. Shin splints can be doggedly hard to get rid of
once you have them - even with better shoes. The transition to colder
weather often brings on more of these kinds of injuries. Running on softer
surfaces, getting orthotics, taking an anti-inflammatant, ice, etc might be
in order.

Dave

"kricket" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
Hey David

I went from a Nike to Asics, but I already had the shin splints just
before I bought the new shoes. I was hoping the switch would help???

David Geesaman said:

If you haven't made any significant changes in training/volume, it's
probably the shoes. Not what you wanted to hear, but shoes have a lot to
do
with shin splints.

The Kayano XI is a good sturdy shoe, but if it's significantly different
in
motion control than your previous pair, can still cause problems. Once
you
find a brand/construction/model that works, stick with it.

Dave

-----------------------

"kricket" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
I am training for my first marathon (which is in Jan). I'm starting to
experience some major set backs. Shin Splints. I can't seem to get rid
of them. I stopped running for two weeks. I have been supplimenting my
running by using the elliptical machine, cycling, and yoga. However, I
am still experiencing lots of pain. What can I do?

I did buy new shoes about three weeks ago. I have the Asics
Gel-Kayano® XI.

I'm very concerned that I have only to date run up to 12 miles and only
have two months left to train.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

It can be a tough combination to pin down, especially if you had the shin
splints before the switch. Shin splints can be doggedly hard to get rid of
once you have them - even with better shoes. The transition to colder
weather often brings on more of these kinds of injuries. Running on softer
surfaces, getting orthotics, taking an anti-inflammatant, ice, etc might be
in order.

Dave

"kricket" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
Hey David

I went from a Nike to Asics, but I already had the shin splints just
before I bought the new shoes. I was hoping the switch would help???

David Geesaman said:

If you haven't made any significant changes in training/volume, it's
probably the shoes. Not what you wanted to hear, but shoes have a lot to
do
with shin splints.

The Kayano XI is a good sturdy shoe, but if it's significantly different
in
motion control than your previous pair, can still cause problems. Once
you
find a brand/construction/model that works, stick with it.

Dave

-----------------------

"kricket" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
I am training for my first marathon (which is in Jan). I'm starting to
experience some major set backs. Shin Splints. I can't seem to get rid
of them. I stopped running for two weeks. I have been supplimenting my
running by using the elliptical machine, cycling, and yoga. However, I
am still experiencing lots of pain. What can I do?

I did buy new shoes about three weeks ago. I have the Asics
Gel-Kayano® XI.

I'm very concerned that I have only to date run up to 12 miles and only
have two months left to train.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

kricket said:

I went from a Nike to Asics

What model Nike's were you wearing? How long had you worn them before
the switch?

My impression is that the good Nike running shoes tend to be kinda the
opposite of the Kayano - relatively light and minimal - so I wonder
whether you've made a major change in shoe type, or had been running in
one of Nike's "we don't *really* expect you to run in this <wink>
running <wink> shoe" models... or maybe they've got something closer to
the Kayano which I'm just not aware of, entirely possible.

Beyond that, I've never had bad shin splits but once upon a time did
feel a bit of discomfort, a foreboding that I'd be looking at real pain
if something didn't get fixed. What helped me was a suggestion from
Ozzie Gontang, who used to post here more often: relax toes while
running, don't 'claw' with them - to understand clawing, stand still,
lean forward a bit, clawing is digging in your toes to prevent falling
forward. No idea whether you do that, of course, or if it'll causes a
major case of shin splints, just passing along my experience. While
you're at it look here on Ozzie's site:

http://www.mindfulness.com/of1.asp

and the FAQ also touches on this injury:

http://www.faqs.org/faqs/running-faq/part4/

kricket said:

I went from a Nike to Asics

What model Nike's were you wearing? How long had you worn them before
the switch?

My impression is that the good Nike running shoes tend to be kinda the
opposite of the Kayano - relatively light and minimal - so I wonder
whether you've made a major change in shoe type, or had been running in
one of Nike's "we don't *really* expect you to run in this <wink>
running <wink> shoe" models... or maybe they've got something closer to
the Kayano which I'm just not aware of, entirely possible.

Beyond that, I've never had bad shin splits but once upon a time did
feel a bit of discomfort, a foreboding that I'd be looking at real pain
if something didn't get fixed. What helped me was a suggestion from
Ozzie Gontang, who used to post here more often: relax toes while
running, don't 'claw' with them - to understand clawing, stand still,
lean forward a bit, clawing is digging in your toes to prevent falling
forward. No idea whether you do that, of course, or if it'll causes a
major case of shin splints, just passing along my experience. While
you're at it look here on Ozzie's site:

http://www.mindfulness.com/of1.asp

and the FAQ also touches on this injury:

http://www.faqs.org/faqs/running-faq/part4/

On 2 Nov 2005 06:10:07 -0800, "Charlie Pendejo" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

My impression is that the good Nike running shoes tend to be kinda the
opposite of the Kayano - relatively light and minimal

ie: cheap [censored].

On 2 Nov 2005 06:10:07 -0800, "Charlie Pendejo" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

My impression is that the good Nike running shoes tend to be kinda the
opposite of the Kayano - relatively light and minimal

ie: cheap [censored].

kricket said:

I am training for my first marathon (which is in Jan). I'm starting to
experience some major set backs. Shin Splints. I can't seem to get rid
of them. I stopped running for two weeks. I have been supplimenting my
running by using the elliptical machine, cycling, and yoga. However, I
am still experiencing lots of pain. What can I do?

I've battled with shin splints for many years (within the context of
Ultimate Frisbee, not marathoning). In the past 3 years I've finally
gotten them under control. For me the answer was religious
post-workout icing (even when healthy) and off-season conditioning.
I've tried many different shoes and inserts to no avail, but have yet
to try custom orthodics. I posted tons about my shin splints
experience here:

http://www.leanandhungryfitness.com/content_show.cfm/content_id.20242

That probably doesn't bring much new to previous shin splints
discussions on this group, except maybe my mention of the Cryopak ice
blankets, which are a shin-splint-icers dream.

Good luck,

Jim

kricket <[email hidden]> writes:
: Hey Larry -

: Are there any additional exercises I can do to help heal the shin
: splints? What do you think of my choice of shoes? Is there somewhere
: you know of that I can go to obtain this information.

: Thanks

Since you said you do yoga, I assume you are pretty familiar with most
of the poses. As I said, the alternate leg pull is the best. Any
other exercises which gently and firmly stretch the achilles tendon
and calf muscles will also help.

IN addition to the alternate leg pull, you can try the Warrior I and
Warrior II poses, as well as the Downward Facing Dog pose.

As counter stretches, you can try the Reclining Hero pose.

As for active exercise, to get your aerobic exercise, you can try
swimming or eliptical trainer. This should strengthen your leg muscles
without putting extra stress in your shins while you heal.

As for the shoes, what is your BMI, and do you pronate or supinate?
I think they are good for most running styles unless you need a lot
of motion control. Can't say without knowing your running style.

Good luck,
Larry