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  1. While reading this article:

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech/2005/shows/eicma05/?id=results/eicma052

    I came across this paragraph:

    "Available in Spring 2006, the FC-R700 uses Shimano's Hollowtech II
    technology with 50/34 chainrings. The new chainset doesn't slot into
    any of Shimano's existing component groups (Shimano lists it among
    'non-series components' such as adjustable-reach brake levers and
    legacy high-quality eight-speed brake/shift levers), but is designated
    as being Ultegra quality."

    What are the "high-quality eight-speed brake/shift levers" they refer
    to? I thought the only 8-speed levers made any more were Sora???

  2. The quote is referring to a number of components Shimano is marketing
    that can be used with any group, which includes 8 speed STI lever, know
    as R500:

    http://bike.shimano.com/catalog/cycle/products/group.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302032888&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=1408474395181202&bmUID=1127326035263

  3. bfd said:

    The quote is referring to a number of components Shimano is marketing
    that can be used with any group, which includes 8 speed STI lever,
    know as R500:


    http://bike.shimano.com/catalog/cycle/products/group.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302032888&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=1408474395181202&bmUID=1127326035263

    Any group? You mean they don't have to match? Will the fashion police come
    after me? Gol-ly!

    Matt O.

  4. Dave said:

    While reading this article:

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech/2005/shows/eicma05/?id=results/eicma052

    I came across this paragraph:

    "Available in Spring 2006, the FC-R700 uses Shimano's Hollowtech II
    technology with 50/34 chainrings. The new chainset doesn't slot into
    any of Shimano's existing component groups (Shimano lists it among
    'non-series components' such as adjustable-reach brake levers and
    legacy high-quality eight-speed brake/shift levers), but is designated
    as being Ultegra quality."

    What are the "high-quality eight-speed brake/shift levers" they refer
    to? I thought the only 8-speed levers made any more were Sora???

    Sora levers are very high quality -- arguably they shift as well or better than
    anything else, and are very durable too. The problem with them is they can't be
    shifted from the drops, unless you have thumbs like Uma Thurman's in that Tom
    Robbins movie.

    Matt O.

  5. Matt O'Toole said:
    Dave said:

    While reading this article:

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech/2005/shows/eicma05/?id=results/eicma052

    I came across this paragraph:

    "Available in Spring 2006, the FC-R700 uses Shimano's Hollowtech II
    technology with 50/34 chainrings. The new chainset doesn't slot into
    any of Shimano's existing component groups (Shimano lists it among
    'non-series components' such as adjustable-reach brake levers and
    legacy high-quality eight-speed brake/shift levers), but is designated
    as being Ultegra quality."

    What are the "high-quality eight-speed brake/shift levers" they refer
    to? I thought the only 8-speed levers made any more were Sora???

    Sora levers are very high quality -- arguably they shift as well or better than
    anything else, and are very durable too. The problem with them is they can't be
    shifted from the drops, unless you have thumbs like Uma Thurman's in that Tom
    Robbins movie.

    Matt O.

    Agreed that Sora's are good quality, shame about the crippled design.

    As I still have several 8-speed bikes, its nice to know there are still
    shifters available. I had no idea these were out there.

  6. Dave said:

    Matt O'Toole wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Dave said:

    While reading this article:

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech/2005/shows/eicma05/?id=results/eicma052

    I came across this paragraph:

    "Available in Spring 2006, the FC-R700 uses Shimano's Hollowtech II
    technology with 50/34 chainrings. The new chainset doesn't slot into
    any of Shimano's existing component groups (Shimano lists it among
    'non-series components' such as adjustable-reach brake levers and
    legacy high-quality eight-speed brake/shift levers), but is
    designated as being Ultegra quality."

    Quoted message said:

    As I still have several 8-speed bikes, its nice to know there are
    still shifters available. I had no idea these were out there.

    I had no idea either. However, if you need new shifters anyway, you might as
    well buy a new cassette and chain too, and "upgrade" to 9 speed.

    OTOH, 8sp chains and cassettes are, and probably will be, cheaper for a few more
    years.

    Matt O.

  7. Check out Sheldon's site, he has STI levers for 7, 8 and 9 speed here:

    http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/shifters.html

  8. Yea, you might as well upgrade to 9sp, unless you specifically want 8sp
    for cyclocross, which is much better in the mud than 9sp or, egad...,
    10sp.

  9. Dave said:


    What are the "high-quality eight-speed brake/shift levers" they refer
    to? I thought the only 8-speed levers made any more were Sora???

    ST-R500.

    Jasper

  10. bfd said:

    The quote is referring to a number of components Shimano is marketing
    that can be used with any group, which includes 8 speed STI lever, know
    as R500:

    http://bike.shimano.com/catalog/cycle/products/group.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302032888&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=1408474395181202&bmUID=1127326035263

    It appears that these are Tiagra levers with 8s detents.

    SYJ

  11. Dave said:

    What are the "high-quality eight-speed brake/shift levers" they refer
    to? I thought the only 8-speed levers made any more were Sora???

    Well, if you use a Camp Ergo 10 shifter with your Shimano 8 cassette
    and Shiman rear derailleur, you'll shift Shimano 8 cassette perfectly.

    I've had Shimano compact crank for a few years now. It's an older XT
    x 110 bolt pattern crankset. Chainline is fine with a 113 JIS bottom
    bracket.

  12. Paul Kopit said:

    Well, if you use a Camp Ergo 10 shifter with your Shimano 8 cassette
    and Shiman rear derailleur, you'll shift Shimano 8 cassette perfectly.

    Have you done this? I have 10-spd Ergo levers on the way, and I'm
    planning to use them with my 8-spd Shimano setup. I'm hoping for a field
    report... maybe I'll post my own in weeks or months to come.

    --
    Dave
    dvt at psu dot edu

  13. dvt said:

    Have you done this? I have 10-spd Ergo levers on the way, and I'm
    planning to use them with my 8-spd Shimano setup. I'm hoping for a field
    report... maybe I'll post my own in weeks or months to come.

    It works fine. I've done it several times for tandems and just this
    week for a road bike. The STI shifters were toast and the guy that
    owned the bike was low on $. A set of Veloce Ergo for $150 and he's
    got all new cables/housing and shifters. When he gets a Campy rear
    derailleur, he can shift Shiman 9/10 and Campy 10.

  14. Paul Kopit said:
    dvt said:

    Have you done this? I have 10-spd Ergo levers on the way, and I'm
    planning to use them with my 8-spd Shimano setup. I'm hoping for a field
    report... maybe I'll post my own in weeks or months to come.

    It works fine. I've done it several times for tandems and just this
    week for a road bike. The STI shifters were toast and the guy that
    owned the bike was low on $. A set of Veloce Ergo for $150 and he's
    got all new cables/housing and shifters. When he gets a Campy rear
    derailleur, he can shift Shiman 9/10 and Campy 10.

    Thanks. I think my Ergos are supposed to arrive any day, and I started
    working on it last night (see my corroded handlebar post for related
    findings).

    --
    Dave
    dvt at psu dot edu

  15. Dave said:

    While reading this article:

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech/2005/shows/eicma05/?id=results/eicma052

    I came across this paragraph:

    "Available in Spring 2006, the FC-R700 uses Shimano's Hollowtech II
    technology with 50/34 chainrings. The new chainset doesn't slot into
    any of Shimano's existing component groups (Shimano lists it among
    'non-series components' such as adjustable-reach brake levers and
    legacy high-quality eight-speed brake/shift levers), but is designated
    as being Ultegra quality."

    What are the "high-quality eight-speed brake/shift levers" they refer
    to? I thought the only 8-speed levers made any more were Sora???

    Isn't the key word here "legacy", meaning no longer in production?
    Weren't Shimano's Look-type Dura Ace pedals "legacy" products until
    the excitement caused by their use on some Grand Tour winner's bike
    brought them back into production?

    jeverett3<AT>earthlink<DOT>net http://home.earthlink.net/~jeverett3

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