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  1. I picked up a Cannondale Super-V 2000 last year and loved the bike. A
    few weeks ago I accidentally backed over it after a long ride (long
    story I'd rather not discuss for obvious reasons!) and did very little
    damage except to break the rear derailleur mount. Got a replacement
    and got everything back together and now I can't seem to get the gear
    shifting adjusted correctly. The rear down-shift lever (part of the
    XTR brake handle) will be totally loose and I have to completely cycle
    it a couple times for it to shift, and it is totally out of whack.
    It's XTR brakes with Deore XT - Integrated 8SIS 8 gear rear.
    Occasionally (probably due to the mis-adjustment) when in the higher
    gears, the rear will down shift and then upshift all on it's own,
    too. And sometimes it acts as if it's between two gears and when I
    click the up-shift once it doesn't change gears but it settles into
    the one it's in.

    If there is some hints to the basic setup and adjustment somewhere, or
    if someone can clue me in on how to set this, I would greatly
    appreciate this so I can start riding again. And is there a special
    screwdriver to get to the adjusting screws on the front derailleur as
    it appears the screw heads are barely below part of the main assembly.

    Thanks in advance for your assistance,
    Scott

  2. Quoted message said:

    I picked up a Cannondale Super-V 2000 last year and loved the bike. A
    few weeks ago I accidentally backed over it after a long ride (long
    story I'd rather not discuss for obvious reasons!) and did very little
    damage except to break the rear derailleur mount. Got a replacement
    and got everything back together and now I can't seem to get the gear
    shifting adjusted correctly. The rear down-shift lever (part of the
    XTR brake handle) will be totally loose and I have to completely cycle
    it a couple times for it to shift, and it is totally out of whack.
    It's XTR brakes with Deore XT - Integrated 8SIS 8 gear rear.
    Occasionally (probably due to the mis-adjustment) when in the higher
    gears, the rear will down shift and then upshift all on it's own,
    too. And sometimes it acts as if it's between two gears and when I
    click the up-shift once it doesn't change gears but it settles into
    the one it's in.

    If there is some hints to the basic setup and adjustment somewhere, or
    if someone can clue me in on how to set this, I would greatly
    appreciate this so I can start riding again. And is there a special
    screwdriver to get to the adjusting screws on the front derailleur as
    it appears the screw heads are barely below part of the main assembly.

    Thanks in advance for your assistance,
    Scott

    I find Sheldons site to me most helpful. Check out
    http://www.sheldonbrown.com/derailer_adj.html. You may wish to start
    at www.sheldonbrown.com and navigate there yourself, as you'll likely
    find some other cool & informative pages.

  3. [email hidden said:

    "]I picked up a Cannondale Super-V 2000 last year and loved the bike. A
    few weeks ago I accidentally backed over it after a long ride (long
    story I'd rather not discuss for obvious reasons!) and did very little
    damage except to break the rear derailleur mount. Got a replacement
    and got everything back together and now I can't seem to get the gear
    shifting adjusted correctly. The rear down-shift lever (part of the
    XTR brake handle) will be totally loose and I have to completely cycle
    it a couple times for it to shift, and it is totally out of whack.
    It's XTR brakes with Deore XT - Integrated 8SIS 8 gear rear.
    Occasionally (probably due to the mis-adjustment) when in the higher
    gears, the rear will down shift and then upshift all on it's own,
    too. And sometimes it acts as if it's between two gears and when I
    click the up-shift once it doesn't change gears but it settles into
    the one it's in.

    If there is some hints to the basic setup and adjustment somewhere, or
    if someone can clue me in on how to set this, I would greatly
    appreciate this so I can start riding again. And is there a special
    screwdriver to get to the adjusting screws on the front derailleur as
    it appears the screw heads are barely below part of the main assembly.

    Thanks in advance for your assistance,
    Scott


    I agree with the other poster that Sheldon Brown's site is likely to be helpful.
    sheldonbrown.comautoshift.html
    is another link that might apply.
    It sounds like you may have significant friction in the housing/cable interface & possibly derailer hanger alignment issues.
    parktool.comreadhowto.asp
    parktool.comreadhowto.asp
    parktool.comreadhowto.asp
    may also help.
    You want the Compressionless shift housing with properly prepared ends and correct lengths.

  4. Quoted message said:

    I agree with the other poster that Sheldon Brown's site is likely to be helpful.http://sheldonbrown.com/autoshift.html

    Looks like great site(s) for help with this. Just browsed them and
    they look great (and I wish I could of stumbled across them with a
    search engine and saved the post). If I have follow-ups I will keep
    it in this topic but looks like this should get me back on the trails.

    Thanks for the quick response and for the helpful information!
    Scott

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    <[email hidden]>,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I agree with the other poster that Sheldon Brown's site is likely to be helpful.http://sheldonbrown.com/autoshift.html

    Looks like great site(s) for help with this. Just browsed them and
    they look great (and I wish I could of stumbled across them with a
    search engine and saved the post). If I have follow-ups I will keep
    it in this topic but looks like this should get me back on the trails.

    Is the derailleur hanger straight? Has it been checked
    to be exactly straight by someone who knows what he is
    doing? Anyway, look up how to check it yourself. Also
    look up the string test for testing the frame
    alignment.

    --
    Michael Press

  6. On Feb 26, 11:02 am, daveornee <daveornee.2mm...@no-

    mx.forums.cyclingforums.com said:


    It sounds like you may have significant friction in the housing/cable
    interface & possibly derailer hanger alignment issues.http://parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=64http://parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=39http://parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=116
    may also help.
    You want the Compressionless shift housing with properly prepared ends
    and correct lengths.

    I'll ditto that also. I have those same components (8-speed XTR
    shifters, later Deore XT rear derailleut) and it usually shifts fine.
    When the cable and housing gets old and gummy, it starts to have
    problems. I'd recommend double-checking the cable routing for excess
    friction (particularly on an old Super V) and making sure it's smooth
    from shifter to derailleur. Replacing the cable and housing is cheap
    insurance, though.

    Jeff

  7. Quoted message said:

    It sounds like you may have significant friction in the housing/cable interface & possibly derailer hanger alignment issues.http://parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=64http://parktool.com/rep...may also help

    I'll be checking that soon. We rode some Florida rustic trails and
    lots of powder sand and small streams so the entire bike got a good
    dusting. Alignment and cleaning coming up :O)

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    You want the Compressionless shift housing with properly prepared ends and correct lengths.

    Hopefully that's in the websites (printing the info out as we speak)
    as it had a crimped end and to remove the old deraileur mount (that
    was broken) I had to remove the cable which meant clipping the crimp-
    on end off. The crimp-on end was not against any part of the housing,
    appeared to be just to prevent cable fraying.

    Quoted message said:

    I'll ditto that also. I have those same components (8-speed XTR shifters, later Deore XT rear derailleut) and it usually shifts fine. When the cable and housing gets old and gummy, it starts to have problems.

    Cleaning seems in order (or possibly replacing the cables).

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I'd recommend double-checking the cable routing for excess friction (particularly on an old Super V) and making sure it's smooth from shifter to derailleur. Replacing the cable and housing is chean insurance, though.

    Good local shop could do it cheap but I'd much rather figure it out on
    my own so if I run into issues in the field I know what I'm dealing
    with. The shop is great but not much help 12 miles out in the woods
    with darkness closing in :O)

    Thanks again,
    Scott

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