Shimano 105 crankset

Joseph said:

Hello there
I have just upgraded to a Shimano 105 crankset double and it works perfectly
with 10 on the back. The only trouble is I find it very difficult to get up
the many hills in my area. Does anyone have any experience with the 105
triple? The gear ratio is much lower with 50/39/30 on the front. Does it
work well with the 10 on the back? I am getting older every day and I am not
going to get much fitter to handle the higher gears. Any comments?
Joseph

Just how steep are these hills? We're all getting older every day, but if you
say you will not get much fitter, you won't. But if you push yourself, you may
well get fitter. I only took up cycling again six months ago, at 58, and I'm
doing things (on the bike, you dirty minded lot) that I'd assumed I'd never do
again.

--
Karen

If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to be a horrible warning.'
Catherine Aird

Joseph said:

Hello there
I have just upgraded to a Shimano 105 crankset double and it works perfectly
with 10 on the back. The only trouble is I find it very difficult to get up
the many hills in my area. Does anyone have any experience with the 105
triple? The gear ratio is much lower with 50/39/30 on the front. Does it
work well with the 10 on the back? I am getting older every day and I am not
going to get much fitter to handle the higher gears. Any comments?

What ratios do you have on your cassette? A 12:27 will get you up just
about
anything.

Bleve said:

Joseph said:

Hello there
I have just upgraded to a Shimano 105 crankset double and it works
perfectly with 10 on the back. The only trouble is I find it very
difficult to get up the many hills in my area. Does anyone have any
experience with the 105 triple? The gear ratio is much lower with
50/39/30 on the front. Does it work well with the 10 on the back? I am
getting older every day and I am not going to get much fitter to handle
the higher gears. Any comments?

What ratios do you have on your cassette? A 12:27 will get you up just
about anything.

This strikes a chord. I have a problem a bit like Joesph's, and wish I had
at least a 12:27 - my bike is 12:23 and with a double at the front it
quickly runs out of comfortable gears when I'm going up a steep hill.

Would it be simply a matter of swapping the cassette?

Cheers,

Vince

Vincent Patrick said:

Bleve said:

Joseph said:

Hello there
I have just upgraded to a Shimano 105 crankset double and it works
perfectly with 10 on the back. The only trouble is I find it very
difficult to get up the many hills in my area. Does anyone have any
experience with the 105 triple? The gear ratio is much lower with
50/39/30 on the front. Does it work well with the 10 on the back? I am
getting older every day and I am not going to get much fitter to handle
the higher gears. Any comments?

What ratios do you have on your cassette? A 12:27 will get you up just
about anything.

This strikes a chord. I have a problem a bit like Joesph's, and wish I had
at least a 12:27 - my bike is 12:23 and with a double at the front it
quickly runs out of comfortable gears when I'm going up a steep hill.

Would it be simply a matter of swapping the cassette?

usually yes, unless whoever put it together did the chain wrong. In
which case, you may need an extra link or two in the chain.

Bleve said:

Vincent Patrick said:

Bleve said:

Joseph wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

This strikes a chord. I have a problem a bit like Joesph's, and wish I had
at least a 12:27 - my bike is 12:23 and with a double at the front it
quickly runs out of comfortable gears when I'm going up a steep hill.

Would it be simply a matter of swapping the cassette?

usually yes, unless whoever put it together did the chain wrong. In
which case, you may need an extra link or two in the chain.

I changed my 12:23 for a 12:25, it made a world of difference to my hill
climbing. I still suck at hills, but at least I don't have to dismount any more!

--
Karen

If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to be a horrible warning.'
Catherine Aird

Duracell Bunny said:

I changed my 12:23 for a 12:25, it made a world of difference to my hill
climbing. I still suck at hills, but at least I don't have to dismount any more!

--
Karen

If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to be a horrible warning.'
Catherine Aird

I did the same when I first started out Karen. I swapped out my 12-23
cassette for a 13-26 - made a world of difference as I made my first
tentative steps towards cycling fitness. Of course, I got sledged by
Lotte at the time, but I got over it... 😉

I still use the 26 as a 'bail out' gear, and on easy days...
(seriously, its not because I'm p!ss weak or anything... *grins*).

Cheers,
Abby

Absent Husband said:

Duracell Bunny said:

I changed my 12:23 for a 12:25, it made a world of difference to my hill
climbing. I still suck at hills, but at least I don't have to dismount
any more!

--
Karen

If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to be a horrible
warning.' Catherine Aird

I did the same when I first started out Karen. I swapped out my 12-23
cassette for a 13-26 - made a world of difference as I made my first
tentative steps towards cycling fitness. Of course, I got sledged by
Lotte at the time, but I got over it... 😉

I still use the 26 as a 'bail out' gear, and on easy days...
(seriously, its not because I'm p!ss weak or anything... *grins*).

Cheers,
Abby

Hi guys,

It sounds as if I should have done a swap over a long time ago. I have a
Sora 8 speed - and it looks like a 13-26 is the lowest geared cassette, as
on :

http://www.deanwoods.com.au/store/prod1746.htm

Is that a reasonable place to buy the cassette, or are they common enough
that the LBS will have them in stock?

Cheers,

Vince

Hello again
I live at Port Macquarie and regularly ride around the Lighthouse Beach area and into town. There are some hilly areas there. I have 12/27 on the back which does give some lower gears but they are still not low enough for me. I have only just recently switched to a road bike after riding a Mountain Bike for many years with some really low gears. I can ride up all the hills with the present set up of 39/52 and 12/27 but it is really hard work and pulse rate reaches Max for my age. Knees are starting to pain etc.
I will enjoy the riding more if I get the triple.
Does anyone out there use a triple with a 30 tooth granny? Does it work well? Is cycling a pleasure or is it too easy?
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Quoted message said:

Hello there
I have just upgraded to a Shimano 105 crankset double and it works perfectly
with 10 on the back. The only trouble is I find it very difficult to get up
the many hills in my area. Does anyone have any experience with the 105
triple? The gear ratio is much lower with 50/39/30 on the front. Does it
work well with the 10 on the back? I am getting older every day and I am not
going to get much fitter to handle the higher gears. Any comments?
Joseph

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Quoted message said:

Bleve said:

Vincent Patrick said:

Bleve wrote:

> Joseph wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

This strikes a chord. I have a problem a bit like Joesph's, and wish I
had
at least a 12:27 - my bike is 12:23 and with a double at the front it
quickly runs out of comfortable gears when I'm going up a steep hill.

Would it be simply a matter of swapping the cassette?

usually yes, unless whoever put it together did the chain wrong. In
which case, you may need an extra link or two in the chain.

I changed my 12:23 for a 12:25, it made a world of difference to my hill
climbing. I still suck at hills, but at least I don't have to dismount any
more!

--
Karen

If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to be a horrible
warning.' Catherine Aird

Hmm and to think I am still using my 1990's vintage 7 speeds with 12:18 on
my singles ( used for crits ), and for the hilly road races I use my
clinchers with a 12:21 ( these are my fast training wheels ) and my other
set of clinchers for most other races 12:20 ( these do the bulk of my
racing ).

I use 1990's ( 1991 cat ) vintage C-record 172.5 crank set with 53:41

I still suck at hills compared to the A grade riders in my club but I can
hold my own against them on the flat, and can climb with most of the B
graders despite me weighing around 95 kg's ( 193 cm tall ).

I am more of a track rider so gears are not that important too me as I love
the single fixed gear track bike over a roadie any day ( or night ).

Vincent Patrick said:

Is that a reasonable place to buy the cassette, or are they common enough
that the LBS will have them in stock?

Your LBS should have them. Mine stocks 8-speed 13-25 and 13-26.

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Duracell Bunny said:

I changed my 12:23 for a 12:25, it made a world of difference to my hill
climbing. I still suck at hills, but at least I don't have to dismount any more!

Many people who buy a bike with 12-23 or 11-23 on it get into the habit of
grinding up hills. They'd be better off with a 12-25, dropping down a gear
and spinning up them more. I've found that a lower gear often makes me
/faster/ up a climb.

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"Joseph" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Hello again
I live at Port Macquarie and regularly ride around the Lighthouse Beach area
and into town. There are some hilly areas there. I have 12/27 on the back
which does give some lower gears but they are still not low enough for me. I
have only just recently switched to a road bike after riding a Mountain Bike
for many years with some really low gears. I can ride up all the hills with
the present set up of 39/52 and 12/27 but it is really hard work and pulse
rate reaches Max for my age. Knees are starting to pain etc.
I will enjoy the riding more if I get the triple.
Does anyone out there use a triple with a 30 tooth granny? Does it work
well? Is cycling a pleasure or is it too easy?
"Joseph" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Hello there
I have just upgraded to a Shimano 105 crankset double and it works
perfectly
with 10 on the back. The only trouble is I find it very difficult to get
up
the many hills in my area. Does anyone have any experience with the 105
triple? The gear ratio is much lower with 50/39/30 on the front. Does it
work well with the 10 on the back? I am getting older every day and I am
not
going to get much fitter to handle the higher gears. Any comments?
Joseph

I have a Fuji touring bike with 30/42/52 chainrings and 11/32 9 speed
cassette and Tiagra brifters. I think you need a longer cage rear derailer
with cassettes larger than 27 teeth though.

It works well and I am quite happy with it. I can climb a lot easier on it
than on my Giant OCR2 with the same triple and 12/25 cassette. Local big
hill is Mt Sugarloaf and I have climbed it seated on the Fuji and I
certainly can't do that on the Giant.

Peter Miller
Newcastle

In aus.bicycle on Sun, 15 Oct 2006 00:33:06 +0930

Michael Warner said:

Many people who buy a bike with 12-23 or 11-23 on it get into the habit of
grinding up hills. They'd be better off with a 12-25, dropping down a gear
and spinning up them more. I've found that a lower gear often makes me
/faster/ up a climb.

I find that too, until I run out of steam!

If I can get the revs up to 100 I'm lots faster than if I'm revving at
70 but I can hold 70 for longer.

Zebee

Vincent Patrick said:

Hi guys,

It sounds as if I should have done a swap over a long time ago. I have a
Sora 8 speed - and it looks like a 13-26 is the lowest geared cassette, as
on :

http://www.deanwoods.com.au/store/prod1746.htm

Is that a reasonable place to buy the cassette, or are they common enough
that the LBS will have them in stock?

Cheers,

Vince

Yes Vincent - I have 8sp Sora on my bike, and 13-26 was the 'easiest'
gear combo available.

Do you have the tools to change over your cassette?? I think you need a
chain whip and another tool as well - I bought a set of these from my
LBS for about $20, if I remember right...

Its p!s easy to do. But if you can't (or don't want to!) - if you buy
the cassette from your usual LBS, there is every chance they'll fit it
for free (or for a small price).......

Good luck!!
Abby

Joseph said:

Does anyone have any experience with the 105
triple?

Yes, although mine is an older 9-speed. You need a longer bottom
bracket, a new front derailler and a new front shifter/brifter to
install it. I had mine converted when I bought it as a no-cost option,
but it would be expensive as an after-purchase modification.

Quoted message said:

The gear ratio is much lower with 50/39/30 on the front. Does it
work well with the 10 on the back? I am getting older every day and I am not
going to get much fitter to handle the higher gears. Any comments?

I purchased my road triple because I wanted fast, all-purpose bike. A
granny gear (small chainring) is very handy when carrying a load or
you're drop-dead exhausted from some other activity (I used to play
beach volleyball somewhat seriously). I found that adjusting the front
derailler to shift cleanly was a pain and the trim available on the 105
shifters was barely usable. The road frame, despite being a relatively
relaxed geometry, wasn't very suitable for commuting and utility
purposes, so I ended up resurrecting an old bike with a triple for
commuting and reserving the road bike for longer road rides.

I still like the granny gear on the road bike because it allows me to
run more closely-spaced ratios on the rear cluster yet still have low
gears for climbing, but I probably wouldn't buy a road-triple again.

AndyB

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Thanks for your comments AndyB. I will be getting the triple later next week
and I am looking forward to using the lower gears on my hilly areas.
Joseph
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Quoted message said:

Joseph said:

Does anyone have any experience with the 105
triple?

Yes, although mine is an older 9-speed. You need a longer bottom
bracket, a new front derailler and a new front shifter/brifter to
install it. I had mine converted when I bought it as a no-cost option,
but it would be expensive as an after-purchase modification.

Quoted message said:

The gear ratio is much lower with 50/39/30 on the front. Does it
work well with the 10 on the back? I am getting older every day and I am

not

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

going to get much fitter to handle the higher gears. Any comments?

I purchased my road triple because I wanted fast, all-purpose bike. A
granny gear (small chainring) is very handy when carrying a load or
you're drop-dead exhausted from some other activity (I used to play
beach volleyball somewhat seriously). I found that adjusting the front
derailler to shift cleanly was a pain and the trim available on the 105
shifters was barely usable. The road frame, despite being a relatively
relaxed geometry, wasn't very suitable for commuting and utility
purposes, so I ended up resurrecting an old bike with a triple for
commuting and reserving the road bike for longer road rides.

I still like the granny gear on the road bike because it allows me to
run more closely-spaced ratios on the rear cluster yet still have low
gears for climbing, but I probably wouldn't buy a road-triple again.

AndyB

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Duracell Bunny said:

Joseph said:

Hello there
I have just upgraded to a Shimano 105 crankset double and it works
perfectly
with 10 on the back. The only trouble is I find it very difficult to
get up
the many hills in my area. Does anyone have any experience with the 105
triple? The gear ratio is much lower with 50/39/30 on the front. Does it
work well with the 10 on the back? I am getting older every day and I
am not
going to get much fitter to handle the higher gears. Any comments?
Joseph

Just how steep are these hills? We're all getting older every day,

Defines life 🙂

Only one way to not get any older

Dave

Absent Husband said:

Duracell Bunny said:

I changed my 12:23 for a 12:25, it made a world of difference to my hill
climbing. I still suck at hills, but at least I don't have to dismount any more!

--
Karen

If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to be a horrible warning.'
Catherine Aird

I did the same when I first started out Karen. I swapped out my 12-23
cassette for a 13-26 - made a world of difference as I made my first
tentative steps towards cycling fitness. Of course, I got sledged by
Lotte at the time, but I got over it... 😉

I still use the 26 as a 'bail out' gear, and on easy days...
(seriously, its not because I'm p!ss weak or anything... *grins*).

Funny that Lotte sledged you for it, given that she couldn't
even tell me what her biggest cog was.

Tam

Vincent Patrick said:

Hi guys,

It sounds as if I should have done a swap over a long time ago. I have a
Sora 8 speed - and it looks like a 13-26 is the lowest geared cassette, as
on :

http://www.deanwoods.com.au/store/prod1746.htm

Is that a reasonable place to buy the cassette, or are they common enough
that the LBS will have them in stock?

Cheers,

Vince

I told Abby some months ago, that PBK or was it
totalcycling.com had some seriously cheeeeeap 8spd
cassettes.

Tam