Shimano 10-speed durability?

Dave said:

Now that Shimano 7800 kit has been out in the market for, what, 3-4
years at this point, I'm wondering what the consensus is as far as the
durability of the consumables (rings, chains, cassettes) and the DA
shifters. Any difference when compared with DA 7700?

the question to ask first is, how many of the retrogrouches on this
group actually ride a 7800 group? i know i don't.

bottom line dude, if you want it, get it. rest assured that if there
was any problems, the haters here would have ripped it well before now.
and they wouldn't have bothered with the need for actual experience to
feel qualified to give voice.

jim beam said:

Dave said:

Now that Shimano 7800 kit has been out in the market for, what, 3-4
years at this point, I'm wondering what the consensus is as far as the
durability of the consumables (rings, chains, cassettes) and the DA
shifters. Any difference when compared with DA 7700?

the question to ask first is, how many of the retrogrouches on this
group actually ride a 7800 group? i know i don't.

bottom line dude, if you want it, get it. rest assured that if there
was any problems, the haters here would have ripped it well before now.
and they wouldn't have bothered with the need for actual experience to
feel qualified to give voice.

My impression is, is that 10 sp shifters are more reliable and better
shifting than 9's. But even if the wearrate is the same, cost of
drivetrain component will be way up 😉

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jim beam said:

Dave said:

Now that Shimano 7800 kit has been out in the market for, what, 3-4
years at this point, I'm wondering what the consensus is as far as the
durability of the consumables (rings, chains, cassettes) and the DA
shifters. Any difference when compared with DA 7700?

the question to ask first is, how many of the retrogrouches on this
group actually ride a 7800 group? i know i don't.

bottom line dude, if you want it, get it. rest assured that if there
was any problems, the haters here would have ripped it well before now.

I think they ripped it before it came out, in earlier discussions
abouut how 8 speeds were pointless and potentially weak, then 9 speeds
were pointless and potentially weak.
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Dave said:

Now that Shimano 7800 kit has been out in the market for, what, 3-4
years at this point, I'm wondering what the consensus is as far as the
durability of the consumables (rings, chains, cassettes) and the DA
shifters. Any difference when compared with DA 7700?

Altho we have warrantied 7800 and 6600 right shifters and one left,
they seem to be more robust than 7700/6500. Rings, cassettes, chains,
same durability as the 9s ones altho the cogs are VERY close together
and proper setup with clean, freely moving inner wires and BB guide a
must. MUCH more suseptible to crud screwing up the shifting.

Dave said:

Now that Shimano 7800 kit has been out in the market for, what, 3-4
years at this point, I'm wondering what the consensus is as far as the
durability of the consumables (rings, chains, cassettes) and the DA
shifters. Any difference when compared with DA 7700?

They apparently work fine. Chains seem to be the only weaker component in the
drive train. That's more a question of earlier replacement than outright
breakage or catastrophic failure. Now with more companies making the chains the
cost has come down and it seems reliability is up from where it was three years
ago. That's only rumor, I ride 9 speed Campy now. (chronic late adopter)

Ron

Dave said:

Now that Shimano 7800 kit has been out in the market for, what, 3-4
years at this point,

Hmmm, that long? I guess the 11-speed rumors will be starting soon.

What's the consensus? Is 10 speed the end, or will we see further
escalation?

I'm currrently using 9 sp, and feel that's about one more "speed" than
I need. If my STI brifters [censored] out, and I can't get replacements, I'm
going back to my 9 speed DT shifters.

Art Harris

Art Harris said:

Dave said:

Now that Shimano 7800 kit has been out in the market for, what, 3-4
years at this point,

Hmmm, that long? I guess the 11-speed rumors will be starting soon.

What's the consensus? Is 10 speed the end, or will we see further
escalation?

8s is the 'end'...;-lo

Quoted message said:

I'm currrently using 9 sp, and feel that's about one more "speed" than
I need. If my STI brifters [censored] out, and I can't get replacements, I'm
going back to my 9 speed DT shifters.

Art Harris

Art Harris said:

Dave said:

Now that Shimano 7800 kit has been out in the market for, what, 3-4
years at this point,

Hmmm, that long? I guess the 11-speed rumors will be starting soon.

What's the consensus? Is 10 speed the end, or will we see further
escalation?

For me, fit younger middle-aged man for racing, it'll be enough when I
have no need to change cogs or chainrings ever for racing. I guess
that'd be 12 or 13 cogs. With 9 I vary the small ring from 38 to 44
and the largest cog from 23 to 27. With ten the cogs will vary from
25 to 27. I'd guess with 12 or 13 cogs I'd just ride a 42 in front
and 12-30 in the back all the time, if that was possible. Or some
approximation of that, maybe 49x38 up front and 11 to 27 in back or
something.

But ten in back is close to enough and it'll be years before I change
up. I still use a 9-speed a lot and it's OK.
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