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  1. I heard Paul Sherwin say that for wet conditions, tires
    should be pumped to 65-75 psi, and when it's dry you can
    even get up to 100 psi. Now I normally pump my vredesteins
    to 145 psi. Is he wrong or am I?

  2. Quoted message said:

    I heard Paul Sherwin say that for wet conditions, tires
    should be pumped


    to

    Quoted message said:

    65-75 psi, and when it's dry you can even get up to 100
    psi. Now I


    normally

    Quoted message said:

    pump my vredesteins to 145 psi. Is he wrong or am I?

    Maybe a difference between clinchers and sew-ups?

  3. I hear that too. I think he's mistaken. I typically race at
    140-150 psi on dry conditions. I'll drop down to 100 psi in
    wet conditions.

    ~ AB ~

    "Callistus Valerius" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    Quoted message said:

    I heard Paul Sherwin say that for wet conditions, tires
    should be pumped


    to

    Quoted message said:

    65-75 psi, and when it's dry you can even get up to 100
    psi. Now I


    normally

    Quoted message said:

    pump my vredesteins to 145 psi. Is he wrong or am I?

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  4. "Super Fred" <timlambert @ mindspring . com> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    I heard Paul Sherwin say that for wet conditions, tires
    should be pumped


    to

    Quoted message said:

    65-75 psi, and when it's dry you can even get up to 100
    psi. Now I


    normally

    Quoted message said:

    pump my vredesteins to 145 psi. Is he wrong or am I?

    Maybe a difference between clinchers and sew-ups?

    Was just a guess - an incorrect one. Oh well.

  5. Callistus Valerius said:

    I heard Paul Sherwin say that for wet conditions, tires
    should be pumped to 65-75 psi, and when it's dry you can
    even get up to 100 psi. Now I normally pump my vredesteins
    to 145 psi. Is he wrong or am I?


    guess that's why Sherwin was a pro rider, not a mechanic :-)

  6. "David Off" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Callistus Valerius said:

    I heard Paul Sherwin say that for wet conditions, tires
    should be pumped to 65-75 psi, and when it's dry you can
    even get up to 100 psi. Now I normally pump my
    vredesteins to 145 psi. Is he wrong or am I?


    guess that's why Sherwin was a pro rider, not a
    mechanic :-)

    Maybe it was 100 psi 30 years ago.

    M.

  7. Callistus Valerius said:

    I heard Paul Sherwin say that for wet conditions, tires
    should be pumped to 65-75 psi, and when it's dry you can
    even get up to 100 psi. Now I normally pump my vredesteins
    to 145 psi. Is he wrong or am I?

    I too was suprised. I used to pump my time trial rear
    (Gommitalia tubular on HED disc) to 140-145 psi.

    jeverett3<AT>earthlink<DOT>net
    home.earthlink.net~jeverett3

  8. "Callistus Valerius" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I heard Paul Sherwin say that for wet conditions, tires
    should be pumped


    to

    Quoted message said:

    65-75 psi, and when it's dry you can even get up to 100
    psi. Now I


    normally

    Quoted message said:

    pump my vredesteins to 145 psi. Is he wrong or am I?

    You are absolutely wrong along with many other new
    cyclists. That is the mark of a noob or worse, a clueless
    veteran; overpumping your tires. Still, in road ITTs many
    guys use up to 120 or more depending on conditions. Using
    145 on the road us just stupid in most cases although I can
    think of some rider\road\equipment combinations that might
    benefit from this level of pressure, you are probably
    following the silly tradition of using the manufacturer's
    maximum burst pressure label as a "recommended" pressure.
    Dumb dumb dumb...

    BTW, to save time in the future you are almost always wrong.
    I will let you know if you happen to get something right. Is
    that a deal?

    Another factoid: Paul uses no "i" in his name AFAIK. "Paul
    Sherwen", veteran of 7 Tours including riding his last Tour
    with Roche in 1983 (IIRC...).

  9. Michael said:

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    Quoted message said:
    Callistus Valerius said:

    I heard Paul Sherwin say that for wet conditions, tires
    should be pumped to 65-75 psi, and when it's dry you can
    even get up to 100 psi. Now I normally pump my
    vredesteins to 145 psi. Is he wrong or am I?

    guess that's why Sherwin was a pro rider, not a
    mechanic :-)

    Maybe it was 100 psi 30 years ago.

    Yeah they were probably solid rubber back then

  10. "Super Fred" <timlambert @ mindspring . com> wrote in message
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    |
    | > I heard Paul Sherwin say that for wet conditions, tires
    | > should be
    pumped
    | to
    | > 65-75 psi, and when it's dry you can even get up to 100
    | > psi. Now I
    | normally
    | > pump my vredesteins to 145 psi. Is he wrong or am I?
    | >
    |
    | Maybe a difference between clinchers and sew-ups?

    It's possible that Paul is messing up the conversion from
    bar to psi

    If he's been looking at the 7 bar range on his pump when he
    puts air in his tires, well maybe he was just off doing the
    conversion for his American audience.

    I noticed they display the gaps now in both kilo and miles.

  11. "Callistus Valerius" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I heard Paul Sherwin say that for wet conditions, tires
    should be pumped


    to

    Quoted message said:

    65-75 psi, and when it's dry you can even get up to 100
    psi. Now I


    normally

    Quoted message said:

    pump my vredesteins to 145 psi. Is he wrong or am I?

    That's "Sherwen." You're getting as bad as Lafferty

  12. Chris, IIRC, yesterday Paul mentioned riding le Tour in
    1985.

    William Jones

    "Chris" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "Callistus Valerius" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message -"]news:[email hidden]-
    link.net...

    Quoted message said:

    I heard Paul Sherwin say that for wet conditions, tires
    should be pumped


    to

    Quoted message said:

    65-75 psi, and when it's dry you can even get up to 100
    psi. Now I


    normally

    Quoted message said:

    pump my vredesteins to 145 psi. Is he wrong or am I?

    You are absolutely wrong along with many other new
    cyclists. That is the mark of a noob or worse, a clueless
    veteran; overpumping your tires.


    Still,

    Quoted message said:

    in road ITTs many guys use up to 120 or more depending on
    conditions.


    Using

    Quoted message said:

    145 on the road us just stupid in most cases although I
    can think of some rider\road\equipment combinations that
    might benefit from this level of pressure, you are
    probably following the silly tradition of using the
    manufacturer's maximum burst pressure label as a
    "recommended" pressure. Dumb dumb dumb...

    BTW, to save time in the future you are almost always
    wrong. I will let


    you

    Quoted message said:

    know if you happen to get something right. Is that a deal?

    Another factoid: Paul uses no "i" in his name AFAIK. "Paul
    Sherwen",


    veteran

    Quoted message said:

    of 7 Tours including riding his last Tour with Roche in
    1983 (IIRC...).

  13. "Super Fred" <timlambert @ mindspring . com> wrote in message news:<RcUGc.40748$XM6.38535@attbi_s53>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I heard Paul Sherwin say that for wet conditions, tires
    should be pumped


    to

    Quoted message said:

    65-75 psi, and when it's dry you can even get up to 100
    psi. Now I


    normally

    Quoted message said:

    pump my vredesteins to 145 psi. Is he wrong or am I?

    Maybe a difference between clinchers and sew-ups?

    Difference between today's tires and what he raced on?

  14. Callistus Valerius said:

    Now I normally pump my vredesteins to 145 psi. Is he wrong
    or am I?

    I'm not sure about Sherwen, but that seems very, very
    high to me.

    JT

  15. "Callistus Valerius" wrote ...

    Quoted message said:

    I heard Paul Sherwin say that for wet conditions, tires
    should be pumped


    to

    Quoted message said:

    65-75 psi, and when it's dry you can even get up to 100
    psi. Now I


    normally

    Quoted message said:

    pump my vredesteins to 145 psi. Is he wrong or am I?

    A former team-mate of mine, a 2, pumps his clinchers up to
    160 psi for races.

  16. "Callistus Valerius" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I heard Paul Sherwin say that for wet conditions, tires
    should be pumped


    to

    Quoted message said:

    65-75 psi, and when it's dry you can even get up to 100
    psi. Now I


    normally

    Quoted message said:

    pump my vredesteins to 145 psi. Is he wrong or am I?

    I'm trying to picture you right. (Nope, can't do it) but in
    this case 65-75 psi is too soft for anyone. More like 90 in
    the wet and 100 in the dry and the reason that you're
    running 145 is because you are 300 lbs and riding 18's.

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