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  1. "zxcvbob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    PENMART01 said:

    And the temperature keeps plunging, dropped a full 5º F in the past
    hour... now
    -3.1º F... colder than a ....

    Bummer. About that same time - it was 61° F. It's cooler this morning
    though. At nearly 11 a.m. it's only 53 ° F. and very breezy ( 16-22 mph
    winds).

    Cyndi
    (who is reconsidering moving back to Armpit, IL)

  2. "Rhonda Anderson"

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:


    My dream would be somewhere where it's consistently in the mid twenties
    (that's celsius, so mid to high 70s F, I think) and every night is cool
    enough to sleep easily.

    Rhonda Anderson


    =====================

    AMEN!!

    Cyndi

  3. In article <[email hidden]>,

    (PENMART01) said:

    And the temperature keeps plunging, dropped a full 5º F in the past
    hour... now -3.1º F... colder than a witch's [censored] in NYs capital
    district. Good thing I did grocery shopping this AM -- gonna roast a
    turkey breast tomorrow -- and make kasha varnishkas. And I bought
    one of those family packs, containing three really nice looking
    shoulder/chuck steaks, 5.18lbs/$1.59/lb (marked london broil), gonna
    grind em and make a few burgers to freeze and a big meat loaf to
    cook. Yeah, well... all that turkey and meat loaf seem kinda
    excessive, but I got company arriving on Saturday and cold meat loaf
    and turkey makes for some good choices, and no biggie to reheat...
    plus both freeze well. Not to worry about too much kasha varnishkas,
    just delete that "r". I'm not really nutso about turkey breast,
    it's okay... but my six cats love it and they gotta eat too. But if
    I had to choose only two items to subsist on for the rest of my life
    it would be meat loaf and kasha VANISHkas.... awright, creamed
    spinach too... hey, ya gotta have yer greens.

    Quoted message said:


    Now down to -4.2º F. Brrrrrrr. . .

    Quoted message said:

    Sheldon
    ````````````

    You're whining about 3 degrees below zero? You got SEVEN pussies in
    your house! I like the kasha VANISHkas plan -- how do you make them?
    Any particular brand of bowties? How long do you cook THOSE?
    --
    -Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> Trip Report and pics added 1-13-05
    "I read recipes the way I read science fiction: I get to the end and
    say,'Well, that's not going to happen.'" - Comedian Rita Rudner,
    performance at New York, New York, January 10, 2005.

  4. In article <[email hidden]>, Priscilla

    Ballou said:

    Priscilla, enjoying some smoked salmon and cream cheese pinwheels

    'splain those, please. Flour torts schmeared with stuff? Do you mix
    the salmon with the cream cheese? Any green onions?
    --
    -Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> Trip Report and pics added 1-13-05
    "I read recipes the way I read science fiction: I get to the end and
    say,'Well, that's not going to happen.'" - Comedian Rita Rudner,
    performance at New York, New York, January 10, 2005.

  5. In article <GLPId.8882$CI6.2780@trnddc06>, [email hidden]
    says...

    Quoted message said:


    "zxcvbob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    PENMART01 said:

    And the temperature keeps plunging, dropped a full 5º F in the past
    hour... now
    -3.1º F... colder than a ....

    Bummer. About that same time - it was 61° F. It's cooler this morning
    though. At nearly 11 a.m. it's only 53 ° F. and very breezy ( 16-22 mph
    winds).

    Cyndi
    (who is reconsidering moving back to Armpit, IL)

    Oh sure, brag. It's 16F and windy right now. We got approximately 2ft.
    of snow but it's hard to tell because of all the drift. Most drifts are
    4' to 6' in height.

    Most everything was closed today as it will be tomorrow. We're not gonna
    get dug out of this one until at least Tuesday morning, possibly Friday.

  6. In article <GLPId.8882$CI6.2780@trnddc06>, [email hidden]
    says...

    Quoted message said:


    "zxcvbob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    PENMART01 said:

    And the temperature keeps plunging, dropped a full 5º F in the past
    hour... now
    -3.1º F... colder than a ....

    Bummer. About that same time - it was 61° F. It's cooler this morning
    though. At nearly 11 a.m. it's only 53 ° F. and very breezy ( 16-22 mph
    winds).

    Cyndi
    (who is reconsidering moving back to Armpit, IL)

    Oh sure, brag. It's 16F and windy right now. We got approximately 2ft.
    of snow but it's hard to tell because of all the drift. Most drifts are
    4' to 6' in height.

    Most everything was closed today as it will be tomorrow. We're not gonna
    get dug out of this one until at least Tuesday morning, possibly Friday.

  7. Tony P. at [email hidden] wrote on 1/23/05 6:39 PM:

    Quoted message said:

    In article <GLPId.8882$CI6.2780@trnddc06>, [email hidden]
    says...

    Quoted message said:


    "zxcvbob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    PENMART01 wrote:
    > And the temperature keeps plunging, dropped a full 5º F in the past
    > hour... now
    > -3.1º F... colder than a ....

    Bummer. About that same time - it was 61° F. It's cooler this morning
    though. At nearly 11 a.m. it's only 53 ° F. and very breezy ( 16-22 mph
    winds).

    Cyndi
    (who is reconsidering moving back to Armpit, IL)

    Oh sure, brag. It's 16F and windy right now. We got approximately 2ft.
    of snow but it's hard to tell because of all the drift. Most drifts are
    4' to 6' in height.

    Most everything was closed today as it will be tomorrow. We're not gonna
    get dug out of this one until at least Tuesday morning, possibly Friday.

    We got lucky in Southwestern Connecticut.
    Maybe 12 inches in places. The great thing is, the wind cleared the
    driveway!!! There was about a foot of snow (depth) for maybe 2 feet
    (distance) between the garage door and my car. And some more at the end of
    the driveway near the street. But when I looked out my dining room windows
    into the driveway, the driveway was bare! What a break!

    My neighbor upstairs used my shovel to clear out behind his car (which he
    pulled into the driveway) but did not have to do anything other than that,
    and the sidewalk and steps, of course. So funny to look out one set of
    windows and it looks like there was no snow at all, then go look out the
    front windows and see a blizzard!

    Our problem here is the temp. It got all the way up to 19 degrees today. I
    went outside only to clear off my car and start it, make sure all was well
    with the car. It's not expected to get above 25 this week. Brrrr.

  8. Tony P. at [email hidden] wrote on 1/23/05 6:39 PM:

    Quoted message said:

    In article <GLPId.8882$CI6.2780@trnddc06>, [email hidden]
    says...

    Quoted message said:


    "zxcvbob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    PENMART01 wrote:
    > And the temperature keeps plunging, dropped a full 5º F in the past
    > hour... now
    > -3.1º F... colder than a ....

    Bummer. About that same time - it was 61° F. It's cooler this morning
    though. At nearly 11 a.m. it's only 53 ° F. and very breezy ( 16-22 mph
    winds).

    Cyndi
    (who is reconsidering moving back to Armpit, IL)

    Oh sure, brag. It's 16F and windy right now. We got approximately 2ft.
    of snow but it's hard to tell because of all the drift. Most drifts are
    4' to 6' in height.

    Most everything was closed today as it will be tomorrow. We're not gonna
    get dug out of this one until at least Tuesday morning, possibly Friday.

    We got lucky in Southwestern Connecticut.
    Maybe 12 inches in places. The great thing is, the wind cleared the
    driveway!!! There was about a foot of snow (depth) for maybe 2 feet
    (distance) between the garage door and my car. And some more at the end of
    the driveway near the street. But when I looked out my dining room windows
    into the driveway, the driveway was bare! What a break!

    My neighbor upstairs used my shovel to clear out behind his car (which he
    pulled into the driveway) but did not have to do anything other than that,
    and the sidewalk and steps, of course. So funny to look out one set of
    windows and it looks like there was no snow at all, then go look out the
    front windows and see a blizzard!

    Our problem here is the temp. It got all the way up to 19 degrees today. I
    went outside only to clear off my car and start it, make sure all was well
    with the car. It's not expected to get above 25 this week. Brrrr.

  9. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    Tony P. at [email hidden] wrote on 1/23/05 6:39 PM:

    Quoted message said:

    In article <GLPId.8882$CI6.2780@trnddc06>, [email hidden]
    says...

    Quoted message said:


    "zxcvbob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    > PENMART01 wrote:
    >> And the temperature keeps plunging, dropped a full 5º F in the past
    >> hour... now
    >> -3.1º F... colder than a ....

    Bummer. About that same time - it was 61° F. It's cooler this morning
    though. At nearly 11 a.m. it's only 53 ° F. and very breezy ( 16-22 mph
    winds).

    Cyndi
    (who is reconsidering moving back to Armpit, IL)

    Oh sure, brag. It's 16F and windy right now. We got approximately 2ft.
    of snow but it's hard to tell because of all the drift. Most drifts are
    4' to 6' in height.

    Most everything was closed today as it will be tomorrow. We're not gonna
    get dug out of this one until at least Tuesday morning, possibly Friday.

    We got lucky in Southwestern Connecticut.
    Maybe 12 inches in places. The great thing is, the wind cleared the
    driveway!!! There was about a foot of snow (depth) for maybe 2 feet
    (distance) between the garage door and my car. And some more at the end of
    the driveway near the street. But when I looked out my dining room windows
    into the driveway, the driveway was bare! What a break!

    My neighbor upstairs used my shovel to clear out behind his car (which he
    pulled into the driveway) but did not have to do anything other than that,
    and the sidewalk and steps, of course. So funny to look out one set of
    windows and it looks like there was no snow at all, then go look out the
    front windows and see a blizzard!

    Our problem here is the temp. It got all the way up to 19 degrees today. I
    went outside only to clear off my car and start it, make sure all was well
    with the car. It's not expected to get above 25 this week. Brrrr.

    Not here - the wind was so strong it blew the entry door to the building
    open and deposited a foot of snow in the hallway.

    We were without cable/net/phone for about 4 hours today. When I finally
    decided to go and find a pay phone (My cell battery was dead too and the
    charger is at the office!) I found the following.

    The nearest pay phone is < 100ft. from the place and it was under about
    8 feet of snow. Next nearest wouldn't take my quarters, nor did the one
    half a mile down the road. When I turned around I noticed three Cox
    trucks humming down the road at a decent clip. By the time I got back to
    the house the cable/net/phone were working again.

    Ah, the many failure points of Voice over IP. The biggest withdrawal
    happened because of the net being down. The SO uses AutoCAD and was
    getting symbols and blocks through their network connector - ooops. And
    I was trying to send email. Oh well, got the most important email, all
    gov't offices closed tomorrow. Yipppeee, I don't have to go to work.

    I'm going to go and play in the snow.

  10. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    Tony P. at [email hidden] wrote on 1/23/05 6:39 PM:

    Quoted message said:

    In article <GLPId.8882$CI6.2780@trnddc06>, [email hidden]
    says...

    Quoted message said:


    "zxcvbob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    > PENMART01 wrote:
    >> And the temperature keeps plunging, dropped a full 5º F in the past
    >> hour... now
    >> -3.1º F... colder than a ....

    Bummer. About that same time - it was 61° F. It's cooler this morning
    though. At nearly 11 a.m. it's only 53 ° F. and very breezy ( 16-22 mph
    winds).

    Cyndi
    (who is reconsidering moving back to Armpit, IL)

    Oh sure, brag. It's 16F and windy right now. We got approximately 2ft.
    of snow but it's hard to tell because of all the drift. Most drifts are
    4' to 6' in height.

    Most everything was closed today as it will be tomorrow. We're not gonna
    get dug out of this one until at least Tuesday morning, possibly Friday.

    We got lucky in Southwestern Connecticut.
    Maybe 12 inches in places. The great thing is, the wind cleared the
    driveway!!! There was about a foot of snow (depth) for maybe 2 feet
    (distance) between the garage door and my car. And some more at the end of
    the driveway near the street. But when I looked out my dining room windows
    into the driveway, the driveway was bare! What a break!

    My neighbor upstairs used my shovel to clear out behind his car (which he
    pulled into the driveway) but did not have to do anything other than that,
    and the sidewalk and steps, of course. So funny to look out one set of
    windows and it looks like there was no snow at all, then go look out the
    front windows and see a blizzard!

    Our problem here is the temp. It got all the way up to 19 degrees today. I
    went outside only to clear off my car and start it, make sure all was well
    with the car. It's not expected to get above 25 this week. Brrrr.

    Not here - the wind was so strong it blew the entry door to the building
    open and deposited a foot of snow in the hallway.

    We were without cable/net/phone for about 4 hours today. When I finally
    decided to go and find a pay phone (My cell battery was dead too and the
    charger is at the office!) I found the following.

    The nearest pay phone is < 100ft. from the place and it was under about
    8 feet of snow. Next nearest wouldn't take my quarters, nor did the one
    half a mile down the road. When I turned around I noticed three Cox
    trucks humming down the road at a decent clip. By the time I got back to
    the house the cable/net/phone were working again.

    Ah, the many failure points of Voice over IP. The biggest withdrawal
    happened because of the net being down. The SO uses AutoCAD and was
    getting symbols and blocks through their network connector - ooops. And
    I was trying to send email. Oh well, got the most important email, all
    gov't offices closed tomorrow. Yipppeee, I don't have to go to work.

    I'm going to go and play in the snow.

  11. Tony P. said:

    Oh sure, brag. It's 16F and windy right now. We got approximately 2ft.
    of snow but it's hard to tell because of all the drift. Most drifts are
    4' to 6' in height.

    Most everything was closed today as it will be tomorrow. We're not gonna
    get dug out of this one until at least Tuesday morning, possibly Friday.

    Holy cow! Where the heck do you live?

    Carol
    --
    "Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
    'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
    Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

    *James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

  12. Tony P. said:

    Oh sure, brag. It's 16F and windy right now. We got approximately 2ft.
    of snow but it's hard to tell because of all the drift. Most drifts are
    4' to 6' in height.

    Most everything was closed today as it will be tomorrow. We're not gonna
    get dug out of this one until at least Tuesday morning, possibly Friday.

    Holy cow! Where the heck do you live?

    Carol
    --
    "Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
    'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
    Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

    *James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

  13. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:
    Tony P. said:

    Oh sure, brag. It's 16F and windy right now. We got approximately 2ft.
    of snow but it's hard to tell because of all the drift. Most drifts are
    4' to 6' in height.

    Most everything was closed today as it will be tomorrow. We're not gonna
    get dug out of this one until at least Tuesday morning, possibly Friday.

    Holy cow! Where the heck do you live?

    Rhode Island where we have no clue how to efficiently clear snow even
    though annual winter precipitation is 24" or so of snow.

    This year we're now at the 48" level for the season and it isn't over
    yet. I do recall the winter of 1996 when total snowfall was 120" for the
    season. Ick!

  14. Tony P. said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:
    Tony P. said:

    Oh sure, brag. It's 16F and windy right now. We got approximately 2ft.
    of snow but it's hard to tell because of all the drift. Most drifts are
    4' to 6' in height.

    Most everything was closed today as it will be tomorrow. We're not gonna
    get dug out of this one until at least Tuesday morning, possibly Friday.

    Holy cow! Where the heck do you live?

    Rhode Island where we have no clue how to efficiently clear snow even
    though annual winter precipitation is 24" or so of snow.

    This year we're now at the 48" level for the season and it isn't over
    yet. I do recall the winter of 1996 when total snowfall was 120" for the
    season. Ick!

    RI? Hell, you should be able to plow the whole state in about an hour,
    no? ;-)

    Just kidding. I went tuna fishing for a lot of years out of Westerly
    and it always seemed to me that you were "about 15 minutes" away from
    anything in RI.

    --
    Steve

    Ever wonder about those people who spend $2.00 apiece on those little
    bottles of Evian water? Try spelling Evian backwards...

  15. Steve Calvin said:
    Tony P. said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    Holy cow! Where the heck do you live?

    Rhode Island where we have no clue how to efficiently clear snow even
    though annual winter precipitation is 24" or so of snow.
    This year we're now at the 48" level for the season and it isn't over
    yet. I do recall the winter of 1996 when total snowfall was 120" for
    the season. Ick!

    RI? Hell, you should be able to plow the whole state in about an hour,
    no? ;-)

    Just kidding. I went tuna fishing for a lot of years out of Westerly
    and it always seemed to me that you were "about 15 minutes" away from
    anything in RI.

    We lived just outside of Westerly for 14 years and I recall
    the statistic that no place in RI was more than 45 minutes from
    the state capitol bldg. in Providence. At the time RI had a part-time
    legislature that met around 3PM and consisted mainly of teachers and
    lawyers.

    Now we're in suburban Denver and it can take 45 minutes to drive
    the 20 miles downtown.

    gloria p

  16. In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
    says...

    Quoted message said:
    Tony P. said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 18:39:15 -0500, Tony P.
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    >Oh sure, brag. It's 16F and windy right now. We got approximately 2ft.
    >of snow but it's hard to tell because of all the drift. Most drifts are
    >4' to 6' in height.
    >
    >Most everything was closed today as it will be tomorrow. We're not gonna
    >get dug out of this one until at least Tuesday morning, possibly Friday.

    Holy cow! Where the heck do you live?

    Rhode Island where we have no clue how to efficiently clear snow even
    though annual winter precipitation is 24" or so of snow.

    This year we're now at the 48" level for the season and it isn't over
    yet. I do recall the winter of 1996 when total snowfall was 120" for the
    season. Ick!

    RI? Hell, you should be able to plow the whole state in about an hour,
    no? ;-)

    Just kidding. I went tuna fishing for a lot of years out of Westerly
    and it always seemed to me that you were "about 15 minutes" away from
    anything in RI.

    Not anymore. Traffic density has gotten to the point where the 15
    minutes from Narragansett to Providence is now an hour plus. Unless of
    course it is 3:30AM and then you have to worry about the State Troopers.

  17. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:
    Steve Calvin said:
    Tony P. said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...
    >
    >
    > Holy cow! Where the heck do you live?

    Rhode Island where we have no clue how to efficiently clear snow even
    though annual winter precipitation is 24" or so of snow.
    This year we're now at the 48" level for the season and it isn't over
    yet. I do recall the winter of 1996 when total snowfall was 120" for
    the season. Ick!

    RI? Hell, you should be able to plow the whole state in about an hour,
    no? ;-)

    Just kidding. I went tuna fishing for a lot of years out of Westerly
    and it always seemed to me that you were "about 15 minutes" away from
    anything in RI.

    We lived just outside of Westerly for 14 years and I recall
    the statistic that no place in RI was more than 45 minutes from
    the state capitol bldg. in Providence. At the time RI had a part-time
    legislature that met around 3PM and consisted mainly of teachers and
    lawyers.

    Not much has changed except the amount of traffic and the net increase
    in population. Legislature is still part time and meets at 3PM. Of
    course now it's teachers, lawyers, state employees and insurance
    brokers/salesman.

    They're all in for a world of hurt very soon.

    Quoted message said:

    Now we're in suburban Denver and it can take 45 minutes to drive
    the 20 miles downtown.

    It's gotten to the point that East Greenwich to Providence takes at
    least an hour between the hours of 7:00AM-10:00AM and 3:00PM-7:00PM. So
    there's a five hour window when you can still make the trip in twenty
    minutes.

    Two jobs ago I worked for a company that had stores in RI, CT, MA and
    NH. I used to hate hitting the Medford/Sommerville stores because it
    meant that if I left after 2PM I'd be stuck on I-93 for at least an
    hour. Then I'd be crawling on I-95 from Attelboro to Providence.

    What really sucked about the experience was that I was driving a Toyota
    pickup with a 5 speed stick. Needless to say the muscles in my left leg
    got quite a workout.

  18. On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 18:39:15 -0500, Tony P.
    <[email hidden]> connected the dots and wrote:

    ~In article <GLPId.8882$CI6.2780@trnddc06>, [email hidden]
    ~says...
    ~>
    ~> "zxcvbob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    ~> news:[email hidden]...
    ~> > PENMART01 wrote:
    ~> >> And the temperature keeps plunging, dropped a full 5º F in the
    past
    ~> >> hour... now
    ~> >> -3.1º F... colder than a ....
    ~>
    ~> Bummer. About that same time - it was 61° F. It's cooler this
    morning
    ~> though. At nearly 11 a.m. it's only 53 ° F. and very breezy (
    16-22 mph
    ~> winds).
    ~>
    ~> Cyndi
    ~> (who is reconsidering moving back to Armpit, IL)
    ~
    ~Oh sure, brag. It's 16F and windy right now. We got approximately
    2ft.
    ~of snow but it's hard to tell because of all the drift. Most drifts
    are
    ~4' to 6' in height.
    ~
    ~Most everything was closed today as it will be tomorrow. We're not
    gonna
    ~get dug out of this one until at least Tuesday morning, possibly
    Friday.

    Hey, Tony! Whaddaya mean Friday? I drove up to Peabody and back
    today, and the roads were as clear as usual in RI and MA. Even the
    wimpy...er, considerate company I work for says there is work on
    Tuesday.

    ;-)
    maxine in ri for the blizzard of 78 and 05

  19. On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 11:21:48 -0500, Tony P.
    <[email hidden]> connected the dots and wrote:

    ~In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
    ~says...
    ~> Tony P. wrote:
    ~> > In article <[email hidden]>,
    ~> > [email hidden] says...
    ~> >
    ~> >>On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 18:39:15 -0500, Tony P.
    ~> >><[email hidden]> wrote:
    ~> >>
    ~> >>
    ~> >>>Oh sure, brag. It's 16F and windy right now. We got
    approximately 2ft.
    ~> >>>of snow but it's hard to tell because of all the drift. Most
    drifts are
    ~> >>>4' to 6' in height.
    ~> >>>
    ~> >>>Most everything was closed today as it will be tomorrow. We're
    not gonna
    ~> >>>get dug out of this one until at least Tuesday morning, possibly
    Friday.
    ~> >>
    ~> >>Holy cow! Where the heck do you live?
    ~> >
    ~> >
    ~> > Rhode Island where we have no clue how to efficiently clear snow
    even
    ~> > though annual winter precipitation is 24" or so of snow.
    ~> >
    ~> > This year we're now at the 48" level for the season and it isn't
    over
    ~> > yet. I do recall the winter of 1996 when total snowfall was 120"
    for the
    ~> > season. Ick!
    ~>
    ~> RI? Hell, you should be able to plow the whole state in about an
    hour,
    ~> no? ;-)
    ~>
    ~> Just kidding. I went tuna fishing for a lot of years out of
    Westerly
    ~> and it always seemed to me that you were "about 15 minutes" away
    from
    ~> anything in RI.
    ~
    ~Not anymore. Traffic density has gotten to the point where the 15
    ~minutes from Narragansett to Providence is now an hour plus. Unless
    of
    ~course it is 3:30AM and then you have to worry about the State
    Troopers.

    That, my dear man, is why you should always have a woman in the car.
    A wide-eyed look, a few tears, and they'll let you go with a warning
    every time. Talk about profiling!;-)

    maxine in ri

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