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  1. http://www.scienceagogo.com/news/19990105054701data_trunc_sys.shtml

    5 February 1999
    Serotonin May Be Better Target For ADHD Treatment

    Researchers at the Howard Hughes Medical Institute (HHMI) at Duke University
    have discovered that Ritalin and other stimulants exert their paradoxical
    calming effects by boosting serotonin levels in the brain. Elevating serotonin
    appears to restore the delicate balance between the brain chemicals dopamine
    and serotonin and calms hyperactivity, says HHMI investigator Marc Caron at
    Duke University Medical Center. Caron is an author of the study published in
    the January 15 issue of the journal Science.

    Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) affects three to six per cent
    of school-aged children. Symptoms include restlessness, impulsiveness, and
    difficulty concentrating. Stimulants commonly used to treat ADHD are so
    effective that "researchers haven't really taken the time to investigate how
    they work," says Caron.

    Previous dogma, says Caron, held that the calming action of Ritalin works
    through the neurotransmitter dopamine. Specifically, researchers believed that
    Ritalin and other stimulants interact with the dopamine transporter protein
    (DAT), a housekeeper of sorts for nerve pathways. After a nerve impulse moves
    from one neuron to another, DAT removes residual dopamine from the synaptic
    cleft-the space between two neurons-and repackages it for future use.

    Caron's team suspected that dopamine wasn't the only key to understanding ADHD,
    so they turned to mice in which they had "knocked out" the gene that codes for
    DAT. Since there is no DAT to "mop up" dopamine from the synaptic cleft, the
    brains of the mice are flooded with dopamine. The excess dopamine causes
    restlessness and hyperactivity, behaviors that are strikingly similar to those
    exhibited by children with ADHD.

    When placed in a maze that normal mice negotiate in less than three minutes,
    the knockout mice became distracted-performing extraneous activities such as
    sniffing and rearing - and they failed to finish in less than five minutes. The
    knockout mice also seemed unable to suppress inappropriate impulses - another
    hallmark of ADHD.

    Surprisingly, the knockout mice were still calmed by Ritalin, Dexedrine and
    other stimulants even though they lacked the protein target on which Ritalin
    and Dexedrine were thought to act. "That caused us to look for other systems
    that these stimulants might affect," says Caron.

    To test whether the stimulants interact with dopamine through another
    mechanism, the researchers administered Ritalin to the normal and knockout mice
    and monitored their brain levels of dopamine. Ritalin boosted dopamine levels
    in the normal mice, but it did not alter dopamine levels in knockout mice. That
    result implied that "Ritalin could not be acting on dopamine," says Caron.

    They then studied whether the stimulants altered levels of the neurotransmitter
    serotonin. The scientists administered Prozac - a well-known inhibitor of
    serotonin reuptake - to the knockout mice. After ingesting Prozac, the knockout
    mice showed dramatic declines in hyperactivity.

    "This suggests that rather than acting directly on dopamine, the stimulants
    create a calming effect by increase serotonin levels," Caron says.

    "Our experiments imply that proper balance between dopamine and serotonin are
    key," says Raul Gainetdinov, a member of Caron's research team. "Hyperactivity
    may develop when the relationship between dopamine and serotonin is thrown off
    balance."

    The brain has 15 types of receptors that bind to serotonin, and Gainetdinov is
    now trying to determine which specific serotonin receptors mediate the effects
    of Ritalin.

    The hope, says Caron, "is that we can replace Ritalin with a very specific
    compound that targets a single subset of receptors." While Prozac calmed
    hyperactivity in the knockout mice, Gainetdinov says that "Prozac isn't the
    best, because it isn't very selective." Caron and Gainetdinov are optimistic
    that a new generation of compounds that interact more specifically with the
    serotonin system will prove to be safer and more effective for treatments for
    ADHD.

  2. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Serotonin Better Target For ADHD
    From: [email hidden] (Jan)
    Date: 9/22/2003 6:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    http://www.scienceagogo.com

    Now explain in your own words Janny what this article is saying.....don't think
    you will like its intent...

    hawki

  3. [email hidden] (Hawki63) wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Serotonin Better Target For ADHD
    From: [email hidden] (Jan)
    Date: 9/22/2003 6:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    http://www.scienceagogo.com

    Now explain in your own words Janny what this article is
    saying.....don't think you will like its intent...

    Especially because it claims that ADHD exists, something Jan doesn't
    believe. She's pulling a Scudamore here (the "whale" site contains
    simultaneous claims that HIV doesn't exist *and* that it exists but doesn't
    cause AIDS).

  4. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Serotonin Better Target For ADHD
    From: Eric Bohlman [email hidden]
    Date: 9/22/2003 6:58 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    [email hidden] (Hawki63) wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Serotonin Better Target For ADHD
    From: [email hidden] (Jan)
    Date: 9/22/2003 6:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    http://www.scienceagogo.com

    Now explain in your own words Janny what this article is
    saying.....don't think you will like its intent...

    Especially because it claims that ADHD exists, something Jan doesn't
    believe. She's pulling a Scudamore here (the "whale" site contains
    simultaneous claims that HIV doesn't exist *and* that it exists but doesn't
    cause AIDS).

    This isn't about Jan and it isn't about aids.

    It appears hawki is following me around and being dishonest. What she posted is
    not what I posted. It is diversion.

    A pity, you went along with her dishonesty. Your credibility is shrinking.

    I guess you both are fond of Ritalin and all the troubles it brings, plus
    addiction and side effects. These studies are looking for something better.

    Jan

    http://www.scienceagogo.com/news/19990105054701data_trunc_sys.shtml

    5 February 1999
    Serotonin May Be Better Target For ADHD Treatment

    Researchers at the Howard Hughes Medical Institute (HHMI) at Duke University
    have discovered that Ritalin and other stimulants exert their paradoxical
    calming effects by boosting serotonin levels in the brain. Elevating serotonin
    appears to restore the delicate balance between the brain chemicals dopamine
    and serotonin and calms hyperactivity, says HHMI investigator Marc Caron at
    Duke University Medical Center. Caron is an author of the study published in
    the January 15 issue of the journal Science.

    Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) affects three to six per cent
    of school-aged children. Symptoms include restlessness, impulsiveness, and
    difficulty concentrating. Stimulants commonly used to treat ADHD are so
    effective that "researchers haven't really taken the time to investigate how
    they work," says Caron.

    Previous dogma, says Caron, held that the calming action of Ritalin works
    through the neurotransmitter dopamine. Specifically, researchers believed that
    Ritalin and other stimulants interact with the dopamine transporter protein
    (DAT), a housekeeper of sorts for nerve pathways. After a nerve impulse moves
    from one neuron to another, DAT removes residual dopamine from the synaptic
    cleft-the space between two neurons-and repackages it for future use.

    Caron's team suspected that dopamine wasn't the only key to understanding ADHD,
    so they turned to mice in which they had "knocked out" the gene that codes for
    DAT. Since there is no DAT to "mop up" dopamine from the synaptic cleft, the
    brains of the mice are flooded with dopamine. The excess dopamine causes
    restlessness and hyperactivity, behaviors that are strikingly similar to those
    exhibited by children with ADHD.

    When placed in a maze that normal mice negotiate in less than three minutes,
    the knockout mice became distracted-performing extraneous activities such as
    sniffing and rearing - and they failed to finish in less than five minutes. The
    knockout mice also seemed unable to suppress inappropriate impulses - another
    hallmark of ADHD.

    Surprisingly, the knockout mice were still calmed by Ritalin, Dexedrine and
    other stimulants even though they lacked the protein target on which Ritalin
    and Dexedrine were thought to act. "That caused us to look for other systems
    that these stimulants might affect," says Caron.

    To test whether the stimulants interact with dopamine through another
    mechanism, the researchers administered Ritalin to the normal and knockout mice
    and monitored their brain levels of dopamine. Ritalin boosted dopamine levels
    in the normal mice, but it did not alter dopamine levels in knockout mice. That
    result implied that "Ritalin could not be acting on dopamine," says Caron.

    They then studied whether the stimulants altered levels of the neurotransmitter
    serotonin. The scientists administered Prozac - a well-known inhibitor of
    serotonin reuptake - to the knockout mice. After ingesting Prozac, the knockout
    mice showed dramatic declines in hyperactivity.

    "This suggests that rather than acting directly on dopamine, the stimulants
    create a calming effect by increase serotonin levels," Caron says.

    "Our experiments imply that proper balance between dopamine and serotonin are
    key," says Raul Gainetdinov, a member of Caron's research team. "Hyperactivity
    may develop when the relationship between dopamine and serotonin is thrown off
    balance."

    The brain has 15 types of receptors that bind to serotonin, and Gainetdinov is
    now trying to determine which specific serotonin receptors mediate the effects
    of Ritalin.

    The hope, says Caron, "is that we can replace Ritalin with a very specific
    compound that targets a single subset of receptors." While Prozac calmed
    hyperactivity in the knockout mice, Gainetdinov says that "Prozac isn't the
    best, because it isn't very selective." Caron and Gainetdinov are optimistic
    that a new generation of compounds that interact more specifically with the
    serotonin system will prove to be safer and more effective for treatments for
    ADHD.

  5. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Serotonin Better Target For ADHD
    From: Eric Bohlman [email hidden]
    Date: 9/22/2003 7:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Especially because it claims that ADHD exists, something Jan doesn't

    I swear she never reads one word of the junk she posts...

    sad that

    hawki

  6. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Serotonin Better Target For ADHD
    From: [email hidden] (Jan)
    Date: 9/22/2003 9:44 PM Pacific Daylight Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    It appears hawki is following me around and being dishonest. What she posted
    is
    not what I posted. It is diversion.

    you are denying you posted these two articles?? lol lol

    tho coming from a site called "scienceagogo...get your brain into gear with
    latest science news,,,OFFBEAT technologies, BIZARRE scientific research, and
    CRYPTIC experimental results certainly does NOT lend credibility to anything
    mentioned there..

    hawki

  7. "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Serotonin Better Target For ADHD
    From: Eric Bohlman [email hidden]
    Date: 9/22/2003 6:58 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    [email hidden] (Hawki63) wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    >Subject: Serotonin Better Target For ADHD
    >From: [email hidden] (Jan)
    >Date: 9/22/2003 6:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time
    >Message-id: <[email hidden]>
    >
    >http://www.scienceagogo.com

    Now explain in your own words Janny what this article is
    saying.....don't think you will like its intent...

    Especially because it claims that ADHD exists, something Jan doesn't
    believe. She's pulling a Scudamore here (the "whale" site contains
    simultaneous claims that HIV doesn't exist *and* that it exists but


    doesn't

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    cause AIDS).

    This isn't about Jan and it isn't about aids.

    It appears hawki is following me around and being dishonest. What she


    posted is

    Quoted message said:

    not what I posted. It is diversion.

    A pity, you went along with her dishonesty. Your credibility is shrinking.

    I guess you both are fond of Ritalin and all the troubles it brings, plus
    addiction and side effects. These studies are looking for something


    better.

    Quoted message said:


    Jan

    Jan, love, when you post something that contradicts your own position, which
    you do all the time, be noble enough to admit it.

    This research doesn't dispute whether the condition exists, or whether
    Ritalin works for it. It is all about the mechanisms involved, and would
    provide the basis for other pharmaceutical approaches if confirmed.

    Peter Moran

    Quoted message said:


    http://www.scienceagogo.com/news/19990105054701data_trunc_sys.shtml

    5 February 1999
    Serotonin May Be Better Target For ADHD Treatment

    Researchers at the Howard Hughes Medical Institute (HHMI) at Duke


    University

    Quoted message said:

    have discovered that Ritalin and other stimulants exert their paradoxical
    calming effects by boosting serotonin levels in the brain. Elevating


    serotonin

    Quoted message said:

    appears to restore the delicate balance between the brain chemicals


    dopamine

    Quoted message said:

    and serotonin and calms hyperactivity, says HHMI investigator Marc Caron


    at

    Quoted message said:

    Duke University Medical Center. Caron is an author of the study published


    in

    Quoted message said:

    the January 15 issue of the journal Science.

    Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) affects three to six per


    cent

    Quoted message said:

    of school-aged children. Symptoms include restlessness, impulsiveness, and
    difficulty concentrating. Stimulants commonly used to treat ADHD are so
    effective that "researchers haven't really taken the time to investigate


    how

    Quoted message said:

    they work," says Caron.

    Previous dogma, says Caron, held that the calming action of Ritalin works
    through the neurotransmitter dopamine. Specifically, researchers believed


    that

    Quoted message said:

    Ritalin and other stimulants interact with the dopamine transporter


    protein

    Quoted message said:

    (DAT), a housekeeper of sorts for nerve pathways. After a nerve impulse


    moves

    Quoted message said:

    from one neuron to another, DAT removes residual dopamine from the


    synaptic

    Quoted message said:

    cleft-the space between two neurons-and repackages it for future use.

    Caron's team suspected that dopamine wasn't the only key to understanding


    ADHD,

    Quoted message said:

    so they turned to mice in which they had "knocked out" the gene that codes


    for

    Quoted message said:

    DAT. Since there is no DAT to "mop up" dopamine from the synaptic cleft,


    the

    Quoted message said:

    brains of the mice are flooded with dopamine. The excess dopamine causes
    restlessness and hyperactivity, behaviors that are strikingly similar to


    those

    Quoted message said:

    exhibited by children with ADHD.

    When placed in a maze that normal mice negotiate in less than three


    minutes,

    Quoted message said:

    the knockout mice became distracted-performing extraneous activities such


    as

    Quoted message said:

    sniffing and rearing - and they failed to finish in less than five


    minutes. The

    Quoted message said:

    knockout mice also seemed unable to suppress inappropriate impulses -


    another

    Quoted message said:

    hallmark of ADHD.

    Surprisingly, the knockout mice were still calmed by Ritalin, Dexedrine


    and

    Quoted message said:

    other stimulants even though they lacked the protein target on which


    Ritalin

    Quoted message said:

    and Dexedrine were thought to act. "That caused us to look for other


    systems

    Quoted message said:

    that these stimulants might affect," says Caron.

    To test whether the stimulants interact with dopamine through another
    mechanism, the researchers administered Ritalin to the normal and knockout


    mice

    Quoted message said:

    and monitored their brain levels of dopamine. Ritalin boosted dopamine


    levels

    Quoted message said:

    in the normal mice, but it did not alter dopamine levels in knockout mice.


    That

    Quoted message said:

    result implied that "Ritalin could not be acting on dopamine," says Caron.

    They then studied whether the stimulants altered levels of the


    neurotransmitter

    Quoted message said:

    serotonin. The scientists administered Prozac - a well-known inhibitor of
    serotonin reuptake - to the knockout mice. After ingesting Prozac, the


    knockout

    Quoted message said:

    mice showed dramatic declines in hyperactivity.

    "This suggests that rather than acting directly on dopamine, the


    stimulants

    Quoted message said:

    create a calming effect by increase serotonin levels," Caron says.

    "Our experiments imply that proper balance between dopamine and serotonin


    are

    Quoted message said:

    key," says Raul Gainetdinov, a member of Caron's research team.


    "Hyperactivity

    Quoted message said:

    may develop when the relationship between dopamine and serotonin is thrown


    off

    Quoted message said:

    balance."

    The brain has 15 types of receptors that bind to serotonin, and


    Gainetdinov is

    Quoted message said:

    now trying to determine which specific serotonin receptors mediate the


    effects

    Quoted message said:

    of Ritalin.

    The hope, says Caron, "is that we can replace Ritalin with a very specific
    compound that targets a single subset of receptors." While Prozac calmed
    hyperactivity in the knockout mice, Gainetdinov says that "Prozac isn't


    the

    Quoted message said:

    best, because it isn't very selective." Caron and Gainetdinov are


    optimistic

    Quoted message said:

    that a new generation of compounds that interact more specifically with


    the

    Quoted message said:

    serotonin system will prove to be safer and more effective for treatments


    for

    Quoted message said:

    ADHD.

  8. (Hawki63) said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Serotonin Better Target For ADHD
    From: Eric Bohlman [email hidden]
    Date: 9/22/2003 7:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Especially because it claims that ADHD exists, something Jan doesn't

    I swear she never reads one word of the junk she posts...

    sad that

    hawki

    Particularly sad when you consider that she holds other people
    responsible for book reviews at Amazon.com if they provide a link to
    Amazon's page about the book. In fact, I do believe that she has said
    that people who provide links to web pages by typing the URLs with
    their own "widdle fingers" (sic) must agree with and accept full
    responsibility for their contents. Unless you are Jan, of course.

    --
    Peter Bowditch
    The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
    The Green Light http://www.ratbags.com/greenlight
    To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

  9. "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Serotonin Better Target For ADHD
    From: Eric Bohlman [email hidden]
    Date: 9/22/2003 6:58 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    [email hidden] (Hawki63) wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    >Subject: Serotonin Better Target For ADHD
    >From: [email hidden] (Jan)
    >Date: 9/22/2003 6:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time
    >Message-id: <[email hidden]>
    >
    >http://www.scienceagogo.com

    Now explain in your own words Janny what this article is
    saying.....don't think you will like its intent...

    Especially because it claims that ADHD exists, something Jan doesn't
    believe. She's pulling a Scudamore here (the "whale" site contains
    simultaneous claims that HIV doesn't exist *and* that it exists but


    doesn't

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    cause AIDS).

    This isn't about Jan and it isn't about aids.

    It appears hawki is following me around and being dishonest. What she


    posted is

    Quoted message said:

    not what I posted. It is diversion.

    A pity, you went along with her dishonesty. Your credibility is shrinking.

    I guess you both are fond of Ritalin and all the troubles it brings, plus
    addiction and side effects. These studies are looking for something


    better.

    repost deleted....

    Jan, there are several meds for ADHD. First, Adderall, and now Stratterra,
    which is a non-stimulant.

    However, the point is, your post concedes the existence of ADHD, and that it
    should be treated with medications.

    Note that since this report, there is MORE evidence that ADHD is grounded in
    the dopamine transporter system. Most of the research being done by Nora
    Volkow:

    http://www.nida.nih.gov/newsroom/03/NR1-23.html

  10. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Serotonin Better Target For ADHD
    From: Peter Bowditch [email hidden]
    Date: 9/23/2003 3:46 AM Central Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    (Hawki63) said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Serotonin Better Target For ADHD
    From: Eric Bohlman [email hidden]
    Date: 9/22/2003 7:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Especially because it claims that ADHD exists, something Jan doesn't

    I swear she never reads one word of the junk she posts...

    sad that

    hawki

    Hawki is a troll. I don't post junk and I do read what I post.

    Quoted message said:

    Particularly sad when you consider that she holds other people
    responsible for book reviews at Amazon.com if they provide a link to
    Amazon's page about the book

    And that is another lie. YOU and YOU alone are responsible for the hyperlinks
    on YOUR website. If you don't agree with the information they lead to, don't
    post them.

    YOU and YOU alone put the hyperlinks there.

    Quoted message said:

    In fact, I do believe that she has said
    that people who provide links to web pages by typing the URLs with
    their own "widdle fingers" (sic)

    Aww, no sense of humor.

    Quoted message said:

    must agree with and accept full
    responsibility for their contents.

    Please do post where I said any such thing.

    You can't, once again you are deceiving.

    Here is the exact quote, and if you weren't so lazy, you could look things up
    before you start lying.

    Hint: What you type wid ur widdle fin'ers comes from YOU. If you don't agree
    with the hyperlinks you type, don't type them. How simple is that??

    Quoted message said:

    Unless you are Jan, of course.

    Above is an example of how you lie, fabricate and deceive.

    Jan

    I don't give a damn if Peter lied to you, this newsgroup, his mother, or
    the pope.

    Rich Shewmaker Ka Ching

  11. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Serotonin Better Target For ADHD
    From: [email hidden] (Jan)
    Date: 9/23/2003 2:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Hawki is a troll. I don't post junk and I do read what I post.

    by what criteria did I become a troll pray tell??

    I am a licensed and certified health care professional..nurse practitioner...I
    can prescribe meds,,have a DEA number and 35 years experience...

    you are the troll...you have NO expertise...no ability to interpret what you
    post..and if you DO read the stuff...then you surely don't understand over half
    of what they say...

    else you wouldn't make a fool of yourself so often....

    want to tell me again how drugs are Scheduled??

    you are a pathetic preschool owner wantabe professional

    sad that

    hawki

  12. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Serotonin Better Target For ADHD
    From: "Peter Moran" [email hidden]
    Date: 9/23/2003 2:53 AM Central Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Serotonin Better Target For ADHD
    From: Eric Bohlman [email hidden]
    Date: 9/22/2003 6:58 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    [email hidden] (Hawki63) wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    >>Subject: Serotonin Better Target For ADHD
    >>From: [email hidden] (Jan)
    >>Date: 9/22/2003 6:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time
    >>Message-id: <[email hidden]>
    >>
    >>http://www.scienceagogo.com
    >
    > Now explain in your own words Janny what this article is
    > saying.....don't think you will like its intent...

    Especially because it claims that ADHD exists, something Jan doesn't
    believe. She's pulling a Scudamore here (the "whale" site contains
    simultaneous claims that HIV doesn't exist *and* that it exists but


    doesn't

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    cause AIDS).

    This isn't about Jan and it isn't about aids.

    It appears hawki is following me around and being dishonest. What she


    posted is

    Quoted message said:

    not what I posted. It is diversion.

    A pity, you went along with her dishonesty. Your credibility is shrinking.

    I guess you both are fond of Ritalin and all the troubles it brings, plus
    addiction and side effects. These studies are looking for something


    better.

    Quoted message said:


    Jan

    Jan, love, when you post something that contradicts your own position, which
    you do all the time, be noble enough to admit it.

    It doesn't.

    Quoted message said:

    This research doesn't dispute whether the condition exists, or whether
    Ritalin works for it. It is all about the mechanisms involved, and would
    provide the basis for other pharmaceutical approaches if confirmed.

    I know what it is about, it is looking for a better way than Ritalin.

    Of course there is a group here who won't admit there might be a better way,
    they are only concerned with protecting organized medicine.

    Jan

    http://www.scienceagogo.com/news/19990105054701data_trunc_sys.shtml

    5 February 1999
    Serotonin May Be Better Target For ADHD Treatment

    Researchers at the Howard Hughes Medical Institute (HHMI) at Duke University
    have discovered that Ritalin and other stimulants exert their paradoxical
    calming effects by boosting serotonin levels in the brain. Elevating serotonin
    appears to restore the delicate balance between the brain chemicals dopamine
    and serotonin and calms hyperactivity, says HHMI investigator Marc Caron at
    Duke University Medical Center. Caron is an author of the study published in
    the January 15 issue of the journal Science.

    Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) affects three to six per cent
    of school-aged children. Symptoms include restlessness, impulsiveness, and
    difficulty concentrating. Stimulants commonly used to treat ADHD are so
    effective that "researchers haven't really taken the time to investigate how
    they work," says Caron.

    Previous dogma, says Caron, held that the calming action of Ritalin works
    through the neurotransmitter dopamine. Specifically, researchers believed that
    Ritalin and other stimulants interact with the dopamine transporter protein
    (DAT), a housekeeper of sorts for nerve pathways. After a nerve impulse moves
    from one neuron to another, DAT removes residual dopamine from the synaptic
    cleft-the space between two neurons-and repackages it for future use.

    Caron's team suspected that dopamine wasn't the only key to understanding ADHD,
    so they turned to mice in which they had "knocked out" the gene that codes for
    DAT. Since there is no DAT to "mop up" dopamine from the synaptic cleft, the
    brains of the mice are flooded with dopamine. The excess dopamine causes
    restlessness and hyperactivity, behaviors that are strikingly similar to those
    exhibited by children with ADHD.

    When placed in a maze that normal mice negotiate in less than three minutes,
    the knockout mice became distracted-performing extraneous activities such as
    sniffing and rearing - and they failed to finish in less than five minutes. The
    knockout mice also seemed unable to suppress inappropriate impulses - another
    hallmark of ADHD.

    Surprisingly, the knockout mice were still calmed by Ritalin, Dexedrine and
    other stimulants even though they lacked the protein target on which Ritalin
    and Dexedrine were thought to act. "That caused us to look for other systems
    that these stimulants might affect," says Caron.

    To test whether the stimulants interact with dopamine through another
    mechanism, the researchers administered Ritalin to the normal and knockout mice
    and monitored their brain levels of dopamine. Ritalin boosted dopamine levels
    in the normal mice, but it did not alter dopamine levels in knockout mice. That
    result implied that "Ritalin could not be acting on dopamine," says Caron.

    They then studied whether the stimulants altered levels of the neurotransmitter
    serotonin. The scientists administered Prozac - a well-known inhibitor of
    serotonin reuptake - to the knockout mice. After ingesting Prozac, the knockout
    mice showed dramatic declines in hyperactivity.

    "This suggests that rather than acting directly on dopamine, the stimulants
    create a calming effect by increase serotonin levels," Caron says.

    "Our experiments imply that proper balance between dopamine and serotonin are
    key," says Raul Gainetdinov, a member of Caron's research team. "Hyperactivity
    may develop when the relationship between dopamine and serotonin is thrown off
    balance."

    The brain has 15 types of receptors that bind to serotonin, and Gainetdinov is
    now trying to determine which specific serotonin receptors mediate the effects
    of Ritalin.

    The hope, says Caron, "is that we can replace Ritalin with a very specific
    compound that targets a single subset of receptors." While Prozac calmed
    hyperactivity in the knockout mice, Gainetdinov says that "Prozac isn't the
    best, because it isn't very selective." Caron and Gainetdinov are optimistic
    that a new generation of compounds that interact more specifically with the
    serotonin system will prove to be safer and more effective for treatments for
    ADHD.

  13. --

    "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    And that is another lie.

    You can't, once again you are deceiving.

    Here is the exact quote, and if you weren't so lazy, you could look


    things up

    Quoted message said:

    before you start lying.

    Above is an example of how you lie, fabricate and deceive.

    Jan

    I don't give a damn if Peter lied to you, this newsgroup, his mother, or
    the pope.

    Rich Shewmaker Ka Ching

    Yep, $ KaChing $21.

  14. "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Serotonin Better Target For ADHD
    From: "Peter Moran" [email hidden]
    Date: 9/23/2003 2:53 AM Central Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    >Subject: Re: Serotonin Better Target For ADHD
    >From: Eric Bohlman [email hidden]
    >Date: 9/22/2003 6:58 PM Pacific Standard Time
    >Message-id: <[email hidden]>
    >
    >[email hidden] (Hawki63) wrote in
    >news:[email hidden]:
    >
    >>>Subject: Serotonin Better Target For ADHD
    >>>From: [email hidden] (Jan)
    >>>Date: 9/22/2003 6:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time
    >>>Message-id: <[email hidden]>
    >>>
    >>>http://www.scienceagogo.com
    >>
    >> Now explain in your own words Janny what this article is
    >> saying.....don't think you will like its intent...
    >
    >Especially because it claims that ADHD exists, something Jan doesn't
    >believe. She's pulling a Scudamore here (the "whale" site contains
    >simultaneous claims that HIV doesn't exist *and* that it exists but


    doesn't

    Quoted message said:

    >cause AIDS).

    This isn't about Jan and it isn't about aids.

    It appears hawki is following me around and being dishonest. What she


    posted is

    Quoted message said:

    not what I posted. It is diversion.

    A pity, you went along with her dishonesty. Your credibility is


    shrinking.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    I guess you both are fond of Ritalin and all the troubles it brings,


    plus

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    addiction and side effects. These studies are looking for something


    better.

    Quoted message said:


    Jan

    Jan, love, when you post something that contradicts your own position,


    which

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    you do all the time, be noble enough to admit it.

    It doesn't.

    Quoted message said:

    This research doesn't dispute whether the condition exists, or whether
    Ritalin works for it. It is all about the mechanisms involved, and would
    provide the basis for other pharmaceutical approaches if confirmed.

    I know what it is about, it is looking for a better way than Ritalin.

    Of course there is a group here who won't admit there might be a better


    way,

    Quoted message said:

    they are only concerned with protecting organized medicine.

    Actully, cowardly nitwit, the group you refer to have been looking for a
    better way, e.g., longer acting medications, ones that do not need monthly
    prescriptions, etc.

    And, in the last few years, there has been progress, with a new one doing
    quite well.

  15. "Hawki63" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Serotonin Better Target For ADHD
    From: [email hidden] (Jan)
    Date: 9/23/2003 2:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Hawki is a troll. I don't post junk and I do read what I post.

    by what criteria did I become a troll pray tell??

    Disagreeing with jan. For people she cannot handle, she either killfiles or
    calls them trolls/liars/members of eom.

    Quoted message said:


    I am a licensed and certified health care professional..nurse


    practitioner...I

    Quoted message said:

    can prescribe meds,,have a DEA number and 35 years experience...

    And Jan was in the sandbox for 38 years. That makes her an expert in sand.

    Quoted message said:

    you are the troll...you have NO expertise...no ability to interpret what


    you

    Quoted message said:

    post..and if you DO read the stuff...then you surely don't understand over


    half

    Quoted message said:

    of what they say...

    Agreed.

    Quoted message said:

    else you wouldn't make a fool of yourself so often....

    want to tell me again how drugs are Scheduled??

    you are a pathetic preschool owner wantabe professional

    sad that

    Tragic, and scary.

  16. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Serotonin Better Target For ADHD
    From: "Marcurio Probertio" [email hidden]
    Date: 9/24/2003 6:26 AM Pacific Daylight Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    by what criteria did I become a troll pray tell??

    Disagreeing with jan. For people she cannot handle, she either killfiles or
    calls them trolls/liars/members of eom.

    ahhhh...so she makes up her own definition of troll just like she misreads most
    of what she posts...

    got it.....
    hawki

  17. see below

    Jan said:

    http://www.scienceagogo.com/news/19990105054701data_trunc_sys.shtml

    5 February 1999
    Serotonin May Be Better Target For ADHD Treatment

    Researchers at the Howard Hughes Medical Institute (HHMI) at Duke University
    have discovered that Ritalin and other stimulants exert their paradoxical
    calming effects by boosting serotonin levels in the brain. Elevating serotonin
    appears to restore the delicate balance between the brain chemicals dopamine
    and serotonin and calms hyperactivity, says HHMI investigator Marc Caron at
    Duke University Medical Center. Caron is an author of the study published in
    the January 15 issue of the journal Science.

    Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) affects three to six per cent
    of school-aged children. Symptoms include restlessness, impulsiveness, and
    difficulty concentrating. Stimulants commonly used to treat ADHD are so
    effective that "researchers haven't really taken the time to investigate how
    they work," says Caron.

    Previous dogma, says Caron, held that the calming action of Ritalin works
    through the neurotransmitter dopamine. Specifically, researchers believed that
    Ritalin and other stimulants interact with the dopamine transporter protein
    (DAT), a housekeeper of sorts for nerve pathways. After a nerve impulse moves
    from one neuron to another, DAT removes residual dopamine from the synaptic
    cleft-the space between two neurons-and repackages it for future use.

    Caron's team suspected that dopamine wasn't the only key to understanding ADHD,
    so they turned to mice in which they had "knocked out" the gene that codes for
    DAT. Since there is no DAT to "mop up" dopamine from the synaptic cleft, the
    brains of the mice are flooded with dopamine. The excess dopamine causes
    restlessness and hyperactivity, behaviors that are strikingly similar to those
    exhibited by children with ADHD.

    When placed in a maze that normal mice negotiate in less than three minutes,
    the knockout mice became distracted-performing extraneous activities such as
    sniffing and rearing - and they failed to finish in less than five minutes. The
    knockout mice also seemed unable to suppress inappropriate impulses - another
    hallmark of ADHD.

    Surprisingly, the knockout mice were still calmed by Ritalin, Dexedrine and
    other stimulants even though they lacked the protein target on which Ritalin
    and Dexedrine were thought to act. "That caused us to look for other systems
    that these stimulants might affect," says Caron.

    To test whether the stimulants interact with dopamine through another
    mechanism, the researchers administered Ritalin to the normal and knockout mice
    and monitored their brain levels of dopamine. Ritalin boosted dopamine levels
    in the normal mice, but it did not alter dopamine levels in knockout mice. That
    result implied that "Ritalin could not be acting on dopamine," says Caron.

    They then studied whether the stimulants altered levels of the neurotransmitter
    serotonin. The scientists administered Prozac - a well-known inhibitor of
    serotonin reuptake - to the knockout mice. After ingesting Prozac, the knockout
    mice showed dramatic declines in hyperactivity.

    "This suggests that rather than acting directly on dopamine, the stimulants
    create a calming effect by increase serotonin levels," Caron says.

    "Our experiments imply that proper balance between dopamine and serotonin are
    key," says Raul Gainetdinov, a member of Caron's research team. "Hyperactivity
    may develop when the relationship between dopamine and serotonin is thrown off
    balance."

    The brain has 15 types of receptors that bind to serotonin, and Gainetdinov is
    now trying to determine which specific serotonin receptors mediate the effects
    of Ritalin.

    The hope, says Caron, "is that we can replace Ritalin with a very specific
    compound that targets a single subset of receptors." While Prozac calmed
    hyperactivity in the knockout mice, Gainetdinov says that "Prozac isn't the
    best, because it isn't very selective." Caron and Gainetdinov are optimistic
    that a new generation of compounds that interact more specifically with the
    serotonin system will prove to be safer and more effective for treatments for
    ADHD.

    Hey "amnesiaac"...SERATONIN is developed by the Hupothalamus and is

    the SLEEP hormone that is so badly needed to survive! BTW..The ONE (of 4)
    WEB_SITES listed by GOOGLE has it Backwards also...apparently you visited it??
    Oh-well..I'll just call you: "STEADY FREDDY"..LMAO..B-0b1

    Quoted message said:


  18. In said:
    Quoted message said:

    From: Peter Bowditch [email hidden]
    Date: 9/23/2003 3:46 AM Central Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>
    Particularly sad when you consider that she holds other people
    responsible for book reviews at Amazon.com if they provide a link to
    Amazon's page about the book

    And that is another lie. YOU and YOU alone are responsible for the hyperlinks
    on YOUR website. If you don't agree with the information they lead to, don't
    post them.

    YOU and YOU alone put the hyperlinks there.

    Hold that thought.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    In fact, I do believe that she has said
    that people who provide links to web pages by typing the URLs with
    their own "widdle fingers" (sic)
    must agree with and accept full
    responsibility for their contents.

    Please do post where I said any such thing.

    You can't, once again you are deceiving.

    Well, once again Jan demonstrates the fine art of "liars
    proven with their own words" by proving herself a liar
    with her own words -- all within the space of 18 lines,
    blanks included.

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  19. In <[email hidden]>, Jan lied:

    Quoted message said:

    I know what it is about, it is looking for a better way than Ritalin.

    Of course there is a group here who won't admit there might be a better way,

    Of course Jan "I always prove my claims" Drew won't even pretend
    to substantiate this whopper. My bet is on her pretending to not
    see this post, although distraction (changing the subject) is a
    possibility.

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    | it more difficult for a software vendor to induce customers to pay |
    | for new products or new versions of existing products." |
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