Seriously pi$$ed off

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The TdF guide with the latest C+ mentions live coverage
of the first 2 stages on ITV1. I was really looking
forward to it. I've just looked through the paper and
they're actually showing Coronation Street when I was
expecting to see stage 1, and Poirot when I was expecting
to see stage 2.

The ITV website confirms that I'll have to wait until the
small hours of Tuesday morning to video coverage of the
first 3 stages. The live coverage I was so looking forward
to is actually on ITV2.

Not happy.

I'll second that. A major sporting event and they shove it
off onto ITV2. I think it's a disgrace! I might even have to
find out how to get it, not that I really want it apart from
occasionally feeling I'm missing something due to not having
it. In this case I definitely am!

Rich

Quoted message said:

I'll second that. A major sporting event and they shove it
off onto ITV2. I think it's a disgrace! I might even have
to find out how to get it, not that I really want it apart
from occasionally feeling I'm missing something due to not
having it. In this case I definitely am!

Digibox. It even tunes itself in.

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On 02 Jul 2004 22:02:36 GMT, [email hidden]

(dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers) said:

Quoted message said:

I'll second that. A major sporting event and they shove it
off onto ITV2. I think it's a disgrace! I might even have
to find out how to get it, not that I really want it apart
from occasionally feeling I'm missing something due to not
having it. In this case I definitely am!

Digibox. It even tunes itself in.

A pedant writes:

Digibox is a trademark of Sky and describes one of Mr
Murdoch's gadgets for receiving digital satellite
broadcasts.

I _think_, from a post up there somewhere ^, that you're
referring to a digital terrestial tv receiver. Which is a
bit of a mouthful.

And now back to our regular broadcast.

Tim
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Danny Colyer
[B]The TdF guide with the latest C+ mentions live coverage of
the first 2 stages on ITV1. I was really looking forward to
it. I've just looked through the paper and they're actually
showing Coronation Street when I was expecting to see stage
1, and Poirot when I was expecting to see stage 2.

The ITV website confirms that I'll have to wait until the
small hours of Tuesday morning to video coverage of the
first 3 stages. The live coverage I was so looking forward
to is actually on ITV2.

Not happy.

Just think yourselves lucky you don't expect to see equestrianism on terrestrial tv! I mean it's one of the few things we actually do well in at the Olympics (and a Brit won the Grand Slam last year) so God forbid anyone should show it in favour of football. But I know what you mean about the parsity of so called minority sports.

dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers suggested:

Quoted message said:

Digibox. It even tunes itself in.

I might even do that, some time, though I'm not all that
keen on getting it just for one annual event.

I decided a couple of months ago that we'll probably need a
new television within the next year or so. We decided long
ago that our next television would be a digital one, but
after a quick look round it doesn't appear that you can
actually *buy* digital televisions yet. It seems I'll still
have to get an analogue one and buy a box to go on top of
it. Then I'm not sure about the practicality of videoing
stuff on digital, which is pretty important since I very
seldom watch anything at the time it's actually broadcast.

You can probably tell that I haven't looked into it very
deeply yet. I have a friend who is bound to know lots about
it. He's coming round for a barbecue this afternoon, so I
shall have to remember to quiz him about digital television.

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Danny Colyer said:

dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers suggested:

Quoted message said:

Digibox. It even tunes itself in.

I might even do that, some time, though I'm not all that
keen on getting it just for one annual event.

I decided a couple of months ago that we'll probably need
a new television within the next year or so. We decided
long ago that our next television would be a digital one,
but after a quick look round it doesn't appear that you
can actually *buy* digital televisions yet. It seems I'll
still have to get an analogue one and buy a box to go on
top of it. Then I'm not sure about the practicality of
videoing stuff on digital, which is pretty important since
I very seldom watch anything at the time it's actually
broadcast.

Yup its potentially a fair bit of money...

Most Freeview boxes can be taped with VHS tape recorders.
But, unless you're lucky, your VHS recorder cannot set the
channel on the Freeview box automatically (unlike normal VHS
recording of analogue programmes where the recorder sets its
own tuner channel).

There are some (two?) hard-disk based video recorders
on sale, starting at around £200. These allow you to
record the Freeview programme to the hard drive whilst
watching another.

- Nigel

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Richard Goodman said:

"Danny Colyer" <[email hidden]> wrote
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Quoted message said:

The ITV website confirms that I'll have to wait until the
small hours of Tuesday morning to video coverage of the
first 3 stages. The live coverage I was so looking
forward to is actually on ITV2.

Quoted message said:

I'll second that. A major sporting event and they shove it
off onto ITV2. I think it's a disgrace!

It's not a major sport in this Country.Go out today and ask
the general public when the TDF starts, and if you are lucky
1 in 100 will know.Ask how many would like to watch it on
TV, and I'd reckon less than 1 in a 1000.

Quoted message said:

I might even have to find out how to get it, not that I
really want it apart from occasionally feeling I'm missing
something due to not having it.

Freeview box.Available for £50+ from High St.
retailers(Comet do them for £50,you may get one cheaper if
you look around).5 minutes to set it up, and worth the
money just for BBC3 + 4, and of course, TDF coverage on
ITV2. Alan.

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Danny Colyer said:

dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers suggested:

Quoted message said:

Digibox. It even tunes itself in.

I might even do that, some time, though I'm not all that
keen on getting it just for one annual event.

I decided a couple of months ago that we'll probably need
a new television within the next year or so. We decided
long ago that our next television would be a digital one,
but after a quick look round it doesn't appear that you
can actually *buy* digital televisions yet. It seems I'll
still have to get an analogue one and buy a box to go on
top of it.

Wrong! Tv's with digital tuners are readily available.
Videoing off mine works fine.

pk

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Danny Colyer said:

dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers suggested:

Quoted message said:

Digibox. It even tunes itself in.

I might even do that, some time, though I'm not all that
keen on getting it just for one annual event.

I decided a couple of months ago that we'll probably need a
new television within the next year or so. We decided long
ago that our next television would be a digital one, but
after a quick look round it doesn't appear that you can
actually *buy* digital televisions yet. It seems I'll still
have to get an analogue one and buy a box to go on top of
it. Then I'm not sure about the practicality of videoing
stuff on digital, which is pretty important since I very
seldom watch anything at the time it's actually broadcast.

Er. Every major manufacturer is selling digital televisions.
Sony, Panasonic etc etc.

Or just grab a settop box from Argos.

(Nb; the *television* bit is still analogue, regardless of
the source of the input signal! You can buy digital and
non-digital versions of the same TV model often -- some
people prefer to buy a non-digital (cheaper) and put their
own settop box in as a digital-TV source. That's the route
we took...)

Phil

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"Danny Colyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers suggested:

Quoted message said:

Digibox. It even tunes itself in.

I might even do that, some time, though I'm not all that
keen on getting it just for one annual event.

I decided a couple of months ago that we'll probably need
a new television within the next year or so. We decided
long ago that our next television would be a digital one,
but after a quick look round it doesn't appear that you
can actually *buy* digital televisions yet. It seems I'll
still have to get an analogue one and buy a box to go on
top of it. Then I'm not sure about the practicality of
videoing stuff on digital, which is pretty important since
I very seldom watch anything at the time it's actually
broadcast.

My parents-in-law have had one for a few years now.

I'd still go for the box solution though - it means you can
record a digital programme while watching another on
analogue, and I don't need to program my tv or leave it on.
(other way round works with digital TV).

The analogue output on ours is tuned to be a different
channel to the two videos, so it goes Aerial - set top box -
video 1 - video 2 - TV (the three bits in the middle have
aerial in/out), so we can watch or record whatever we like
with the caveat that we only have one digital channel at a
time. (video 2 is optional - merely a historical accident
that we have two).

cheers, clive

On 3/7/04 10:50 am, in article [email hidden],

dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers said:

Quoted message said:

I might even do that, some time, though I'm not all that
keen on getting it just for one annual event.

It has had the added advantage here in that the analogue
signal for Channel Five is cr*p. Via Freeview, though, the
picture is excellent. It was pleasant to watch the Lance
Armstrong interview last night via a clear picture instead
of via fog :-)

I'll second that. No fog for once. Clear sound. Definitely a
Good Thing (though I did turn off more than half the
channels as a piece of [censored]).

..d

David Martin said:

On 3/7/04 10:50 am, in article 20040703055039.10961.00000994@mb-
m02.aol.com, "dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers"

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I might even do that, some time, though I'm not all that
keen on getting it just for one annual event.

It has had the added advantage here in that the analogue
signal for Channel Five is cr*p. Via Freeview, though,
the picture is excellent. It was pleasant to watch the
Lance Armstrong interview last night via a clear picture
instead of via fog :-)

I'll second that. No fog for once. Clear sound. Definitely
a Good Thing (though I did turn off more than half the
channels as a piece of [censored]).

Although you will find from time to time that the sound and
the pictures get way out of synch on digital while they're
still perfectly together on analogue.

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Mark Twain

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"Danny Colyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers suggested:

Quoted message said:

Digibox. It even tunes itself in.

I might even do that, some time, though I'm not all that
keen on getting it just for one annual event.

I decided a couple of months ago that we'll probably
need a new television within the next year or so. We
decided long ago that our next television would be a
digital one, but after a quick look round it doesn't
appear that you can actually *buy* digital televisions
yet. It seems I'll still have to get an analogue one and
buy a box to go on top of it. Then I'm not sure about
the practicality of videoing stuff on digital, which is
pretty important since I very seldom watch anything at
the time it's actually broadcast.

My parents-in-law have had one for a few years now.

AIUI you only get to watch a weekly synopsis (Tuesdays)on
ITV1, and ITV2 is the middle of the night highlights that
ITV1 had last year. Sky are promising a free dish end of
the year, but without British Eurosport on it you won't see
any live coverage. I'm a bit loathe to get the dish, once
you've all bought it they can in theory take all the free
channels off and make you pay. Back to the bent coat hanger
on the roof ;-(

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"Danny Colyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Quoted message said:

The TdF guide with the latest C+ mentions live coverage
of the first 2 stages on ITV1. I was really looking
forward to it. I've just looked through the paper and
they're actually showing Coronation Street when I was
expecting to see stage 1, and Poirot when I was
expecting to see stage 2.

The ITV website confirms that I'll have to wait until
the small hours of Tuesday morning to video coverage of
the first 3 stages. The live coverage I was so looking
forward to is actually on ITV2.

Not happy.

I'll second that. A major sporting event and they shove it
off onto ITV2. I think it's a disgrace!

Compare ITV's coverage to the rest of Europe: (from the Tour
site)Direct=live Resumes=highlights; quotidien daily
hebdomadaires weekly France 2 Direct Tous les jours de
course à partir de 14h00 La légende du Tour Tous les jours
de course à partir de 13h45 Les marches du Tour Tous les
jours de course à partir de 17h30 Vélo Club Tous les jours
de course à partir de 17h40 Spécial Stade 2 25 juillet 18h05-
19h05 France 3 Le journal du Tour Tous les jours sauf les
dimanches vers 20h35 Sur la route du Tour Tous les jours de
course à partir de 10h40 Journal du Tour Les dimanches à
partir de 11h10 ALLEMAGNE ZDF Direct du 3 au 25 juillet
(nombreuses rediffusions) ARD Direct Les 4, 6, 7, 10, 13,
15, 17, 20, 22, 23 juillet à partir de 13h00 ALBANIE RTSH
Résumés quotidiens de 26' du 3 au 25 juillet ARMÉNIE TPA
Résumés quotidiens de 26' du 3 au 25 juillet AUTRICHE ORF
Direct 3, 4, 10, 11, 14, 16, 17, 20 au 25 Juillet à partir
16h00 AZERBAIDJAN Lider TV Résumés quotidiens de 26' du 3 au
25 juillet BELGIQUE RTBF 1 Direct Tous les jours de course
(sauf le 21 juillet) DANEMARK TV2 Danemark Direct Tous les
jours de course ESPAGNE TVE Direct Tous les jours de course
vers 13h00 GRANDE-BRETAGNE ITV 1 Résumés hebdomadaires de
26' Tous les lundis vers 01h00 ITV 2 Prologue 4 juillet vers
16h30 Direct Tous les samedis et dimanches vers 15h00
Résumés quotidiens de 26' du lundi au vendredi vers 19h00
GEORGIE IBERIA TV Résumés hebdomadaires de 26' du 3 au 25
juillet HOLLANDE NOS 2 Direct Tous les jours de course RTL 4
News et Magazines ITALIE RAI 3 Direct Tous les jours de
course à partir de 13h00 LETTONIE TV 5 Résumés quotidiens de
26' du 3 au 25 juillet vers 22h30 NORVÈGE TV 2 Direct Tous
les jours de course à partir de 13h00 OUZBEKISTAN UZTELRADIO
Co. Résumés hebdomadaires de 26' du 3 au 25 juillet PORTUGAL
RTP 2 Direct Tous les jours de course à partir de 13h00
RÉPUBLIQUE TCHÈQUE Czech TV Résumés quotidiens de 12' Tous
les jours de course vers 22h00 RUSSIE 7 TV Résumés
quotidiens de 26' de 3 au 25 juillet SERBIE & MONTÉNÉGRO RTS
Résumés quotidiens de 26' de 3 au 25 juillet vers 22h00
SUISSE TSI 2 Direct du 3 au 25 juillet

reads a bit like the Eurovision scores (except they missed
out "Royaume Unis nul points"😉

On 3/7/04 9:25 pm, in article [email hidden],

Dave Kahn said:

Although you will find from time to time that the sound
and the pictures get way out of synch on digital while
they're still perfectly together on analogue.

I find having the sound and pictures out of sync (which
seems to be fairly frequent here on analogue) to be quite
annoying. Being a litlte bit musically inclined I get
frustrated at a concert when there is significant lag
between vision and sound (eg at the back of a medium/large
concert hall.) I end up closing my eyes and the people I am
with think I am asleep.

I'm not asleep, honest, unless I am snoring.

..d

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"Danny Colyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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The ITV website confirms that I'll have to wait until
the small hours

of

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Tuesday morning to video coverage of the first 3
stages. The live coverage I was so looking forward to
is actually on ITV2.

Quoted message said:

I'll second that. A major sporting event and they shove
it off onto

ITV2.

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I think it's a disgrace!

It's not a major sport in this Country.Go out today and
ask the general public when the TDF starts, and if you are
lucky 1 in 100 will know.Ask how many would like to watch
it on TV, and I'd reckon less than 1 in a 1000.

"It's not a major sport " ... and never likely to become one
whilst it remains marginalised by the major TV companies ?
Still, there's always the spitting, cheating and diving
(football) to watch instead ;-)

Regards,

Dave.

David Purdy said:

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A.lee wrote: It's not a major sport in this Country.

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"It's not a major sport " ... and never likely to become
one whilst it remains marginalised by the major TV
companies ? Still, there's always the spitting, cheating
and diving (football) to watch instead ;-)

Who will reply with the 'drug fuelled skinny gits on bikes'.
TBH, the TDF is pretty boring apart from a major climb, or
in the last 10 minutes of the stage. If it was live, I
certainly wouldnt watch the flat stages.I like watching the
highlights though. Alan.

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MartinM said:

France 2 Direct Tous les jours de course à partir de 14h00

Yes I've just woken up from watching the France 2 coverage
and have a back worse than McGee's due to our hard French
sofa... luckily I didn't miss the podium girls which are one
of the best parts. :-)

I think watching a whole stage must be harder than
riding it.

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TBH, the TDF is pretty boring apart from a major climb, or
in the last 10 minutes of the stage. If it was live, I
certainly wouldnt watch the flat stages.I like watching
the highlights though.

Wahey, somebody agrees with me (and s.o.). I liked the old
C4 half-hour coverage, including the 5 minute tourist bit in
the middle. 45 minutes would probably be better, but after
that there's no real gain IMO. And highlights is loads
better than live.

(you may start stacking the bonfire now and arrange the
stakes now!)

cheers, clive