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  1. Hi All,

    I've been riding for a while and I'm looking for a new bike. But, by
    no means am I a well versed bicycle mechanical guru. I've got my eye
    on a Specialized Sequoia Comp mainly because of the level of
    components (Ultegra) for the price. But after reading
    http://www.chainreaction.com/cheappartsbikes.htm and the specs for the
    Sequoia, I really don't know how good the frame and wheels are vs.
    other models. I'm 6' 0", 180 lbs. I like to climb hard and sprint
    every now and then. What characteristics of frame, wheels and tires
    should I be looking for?

    Thanks.

  2. Robert Nurse said:

    Hi All,

    I've got my eye
    on a Specialized Sequoia Comp mainly because of the level of
    components (Ultegra) for the price. But after reading
    http://www.chainreaction.com/cheappartsbikes.htm and the specs for the
    Sequoia, I really don't know how good the frame and wheels are vs.
    other models. I'm 6' 0", 180 lbs. I like to climb hard and sprint
    every now and then. What characteristics of frame, wheels and tires
    should I be looking for?

    Specialized Sequoia Comp:

    Suspension seat post, adjustable stem, "innovative" drop bars, low
    spoke count wheels, damped carbon fork. It looks to me like a
    comfort bike masquerading as a road bike.

    I suggest skipping all those gimmicky items. Get some 32-spoke
    wheels, make sure whatever you try fits you well, and try it out.
    --
    terry morse Palo Alto, CA http://bike.terrymorse.com/

  3. On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 14:11:21 -0700, Terry Morse <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Specialized Sequoia Comp:
    Suspension seat post, adjustable stem, "innovative" drop bars, low
    spoke count wheels, damped carbon fork. It looks to me like a
    comfort bike masquerading as a road bike.

    Looks to me like a comfort-ized road bike -- essentially, a road
    bike designed for real people riding on real roads, not a racing
    bike being used on roads. Sounds reasonable.

    Quoted message said:

    I suggest skipping all those gimmicky items. Get some 32-spoke
    wheels, make sure whatever you try fits you well, and try it out.

    I agree about the wheels, though...and fit is a must.
    --
    Rick Onanian

  4. Rick Onanian said:
    Terry Morse said:

    Specialized Sequoia Comp:
    Suspension seat post, adjustable stem, "innovative" drop bars, low
    spoke count wheels, damped carbon fork. It looks to me like a
    comfort bike masquerading as a road bike.

    Looks to me like a comfort-ized road bike -- essentially, a road
    bike designed for real people riding on real roads, not a racing
    bike being used on roads. Sounds reasonable.

    If you want a comfortable ride on a road bike, your most effective
    item is wider tires. Since the OP mentioned climbing hard and some
    sprinting, a less comfort-ized and more rigid bike would probably be
    more to his liking.

    If you want to mount wider tires, it's important to make sure before
    purchase that there is enough tire clearance on the frame and fork.
    Some of the fancier bikes have very little clearance, which is
    unfortunate.

    FWIW, I'm a real person who rides a lot (6084 miles YTD) on real
    roads. My bike doesn't have any of the comfort gimmicks, other than
    25mm tires and cork bar tape.
    --
    terry morse Palo Alto, CA http://bike.terrymorse.com/

  5. I do remember that the more spokes the better. I had a road bike
    whose wheels had 36 spokes: Mavic was the brand I believe. I noticed
    the Sequoia doesn't have anywhere near 32 spokes. There must be
    something at work here to get away with so few spokes. Also, what
    exactly is double- or triple-butted mean? See, I told you I'm not a
    guru. So please don't laugh 🙂. What are some measureable
    characteristics of frames and wheels that I can use to compare
    offerings. Terry mentioned ridgidity. How do you tell if one frame
    is more ridgid than another?

    Rick Onanian <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 14:11:21 -0700, Terry Morse <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Specialized Sequoia Comp:
    Suspension seat post, adjustable stem, "innovative" drop bars, low
    spoke count wheels, damped carbon fork. It looks to me like a
    comfort bike masquerading as a road bike.

    Looks to me like a comfort-ized road bike -- essentially, a road
    bike designed for real people riding on real roads, not a racing
    bike being used on roads. Sounds reasonable.

    Quoted message said:

    I suggest skipping all those gimmicky items. Get some 32-spoke
    wheels, make sure whatever you try fits you well, and try it out.

    I agree about the wheels, though...and fit is a must.

  6. Robert Nurse said:

    I had a road bike
    whose wheels had 36 spokes: Mavic was the brand I believe

    I've a set of Mavic Ma3s with 36 spokes and 25mm tires--I hit a 6" deep
    pothole the other day at 25mph+ couldn't swerve, because of traffic so I
    slid back in the saddle, lifted the front wheel over most of it, but
    whacked the back full force--certain that I'd taco it. Nope. Didn't even
    have to true it (!) Yep, 36 spokes rock! 😄 This ain't no fancy set
    either--a machine built (and touched up by me) Nashbar 90 dollar wheelset
    with a cheeeep shimano hub...

    Even if you end up getting the bike--it looks quite sensible and
    comfy--spending a hundred bucks on a spare heavy-duty extra wheelset can
    be a nice insurance policy. Shoe them with some fatter 27-35mm tires and
    throw on those when you think your going to hit some rougher pavement.

    😄

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