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  1. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/7096492.stm
    is a piece of PR puff about the police using the rather heavy Segway
    things in a shopping centre.

    I wonder what the police would say about someone, including
    themselves, using a rather lighter bike to ride round the shopping
    centre at up to 12mph?

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  2. David Hansen said:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/7096492.stm

    The article says "It also acts as an ice-breaker gaining visible
    interest from members of the public, thereby increasing interaction
    with security and police officers".

    It would be much more fun if they used horses.

    Jon

  3. David Hansen said:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/7096492.stm
    is a piece of PR puff about the police using the rather heavy Segway
    things in a shopping centre.

    I wonder what the police would say about someone, including
    themselves, using a rather lighter bike to ride round the shopping
    centre at up to 12mph?

    Probably that it's dangerous.

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  4. In news:[email hidden],
    Paul - [censored] <[email hidden]> tweaked the Babbage-Engine to tell
    us:

    Quoted message said:
    David Hansen said:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/7096492.stm
    is a piece of PR puff about the police using the rather heavy Segway
    things in a shopping centre.

    I wonder what the police would say about someone, including
    themselves, using a rather lighter bike to ride round the shopping
    centre at up to 12mph?

    Probably that it's dangerous.

    Didn't seem to cause any problems in whichever US airport I saw cycloplods
    in (can't remember whether it was Denver or San Francisco).

    --
    Dave Larrington
    <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk>
    "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from
    a yo-yo" - Enoch Root.

  5. "Jonathan Schneider" <[email hidden]> a écrit:

    Quoted message said:

    It would be much more fun if they used horses.

    ....or horse costumes

    http://images.buycostumes.com/mgen/merchandiser/31975.jpg

    James Thomson

  6. "Jonathan Schneider" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    David Hansen said:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/7096492.stm

    The article says "It also acts as an ice-breaker gaining visible
    interest from members of the public, thereby increasing interaction
    with security and police officers".

    It would be much more fun if they used horses.

    Jon

    At least you'd hear a horse approaching at speed.
    Might be a problem cornering on polished marble floors though!
    John

  7. John Clayton said:
    Quoted message said:

    It would be much more fun if they used horses.

    Jon

    At least you'd hear a horse approaching at speed.
    Might be a problem cornering on polished marble floors though!
    John

    I think the effect of the horses lack of bladder control on the marble
    will (dis) solve that 😉

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  8. "John Clayton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "Jonathan Schneider" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    David Hansen said:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/7096492.stm

    The article says "It also acts as an ice-breaker gaining visible
    interest from members of the public, thereby increasing interaction
    with security and police officers".

    It would be much more fun if they used horses.

    Jon

    At least you'd hear a horse approaching at speed.
    Might be a problem cornering on polished marble floors though!
    John


    Aren't there special overshoes for that?

    <google> http://www.smoothwalker.com/ </google>

    Yep, thought so.

  9. David Hansen said:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/7096492.stm
    is a piece of PR puff about the police using the rather heavy Segway
    things in a shopping centre.

    I see Disney decided they were too dangerous to use in their park.

    http://www.centredaily.com/business/story/257504.html

    Steve

  10. "David Hansen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/7096492.stm
    is a piece of PR puff about the police using the rather heavy Segway
    things in a shopping centre.

    As opposed to one of those lightweight 'bike things'? They may be heavy but
    they are extremely manoeuvrable to get around things quickly - can a bike
    turn on its own axis while being ridden by the average cyclist? As far as
    weight is concerned, aside from the effects of inertia, the only other
    factor I can think of that's relevant is what damage would it would cause if
    it runs over something e.g. a foot. The contact area or footprint of the
    tyres is then relevant and although the Segway itself is heavier than the
    average bike, once the riders weight is also included, I think the tyres
    would be under less stress and cause less impact damage than a comparatively
    'stiletto like' skinny bike tyre.

    Quoted message said:

    I wonder what the police would say about someone, including
    themselves, using a rather lighter bike to ride round the shopping
    centre at up to 12mph?

    Probably that it has nowhere near as small a footprint and nowhere near the
    controllability or manoeuvrability of a Segway. Also that the public riders
    may not have received specialist bike training, all going together to paint
    a picture that cycling around the shopping centre would be far more risky -
    and they'd be right.

    Enthusiasm for cycling won't be gained by knocking other devices that can be
    used for personal transport. Bikes have their place but that's not being
    ridden through shopping centres IMO.

    Paul

  11. Paul Murphy said:

    As opposed to one of those lightweight 'bike things'? They may be heavy but
    they are extremely manoeuvrable to get around things quickly - can a bike
    turn on its own axis while being ridden by the average cyclist?

    You're right. They should all be riding unicycles - lightweight,
    manoeuvrable /and/ easily turned on its own axis.

    --
    Danny Colyer <http://www.redpedals.co.uk>
    Reply address is valid, but that on my website is checked more often
    "The plural of anecdote is not data" - Frank Kotsonis

  12. "Danny Colyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Paul Murphy said:

    As opposed to one of those lightweight 'bike things'? They may be heavy
    but they are extremely manoeuvrable to get around things quickly - can a
    bike turn on its own axis while being ridden by the average cyclist?

    You're right. They should all be riding unicycles - lightweight,
    manoeuvrable /and/ easily turned on its own axis.

    :-)

    With the bonus of increased numbers of solved crimes (when the shoplifters
    ROTFL after they see the balancing long arm of the law come after them on
    one).

    Paul

  13. Quoting Danny Colyer <[email hidden]>:

    Quoted message said:

    You're right. They should all be riding unicycles - lightweight,
    manoeuvrable /and/ easily turned on its own axis.

    Yes - when I tried to ride one, it regularly turned about the axis that
    the cranks were mounted on.
    --
    David Damerell <[email hidden]> flcl?
    Today is Second Monday, November.

  14. David Hansen said:

    I wonder what the police would say about someone, including
    themselves, using a rather lighter bike to ride round the shopping
    centre at up to 12mph?

    At my local shopping mall, the shop attendants cruise around on
    roller-blades. A lot less expensive than Segways and just as agile.

    EFR
    Ile de France

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