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  1. Holy Cow. I'm beginning to think that the Olympics may
    finally be creating more problems than they are worth. I
    remember those happy bygone days -- when the worst of our
    worries was who was taking what drug.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Missile umbrella to shield Athens Olympiad (Xinhua) Updated:
    2004-03-16 09:16

    A "missile umbrella" made up of Patriot, Stinger and Hawk
    missile batteries will protect Athens in an effort to boost
    defense against terrorism during the upcoming Olympic Games
    scheduled for Aug. 13-29, local media reported Monday.

    The air defense map for the safety of the Olympic Games is
    ready, according to the Athens Greek-language newspaper "
    Apogevmatini".

    The air defense umbrella will be completed with the presence
    of Mirage 2000 and F-16 interception fighter jets as well as
    the state-of-art single engine turboprop aircraft T-6A Texan
    II and flying radar stations.

    Similar protection will have other four Greek cities with
    Olympic venues. The country will also be protected from
    nuclear threat, as the responsible authorities consider any
    likelihood.

    Security issue has been the top worry for the international
    community, although Greek government has earmarked a record
    650 million euros (US$820 million) for the Olympic security
    budget, three times as much as that for Sydney Olympic
    Games, and 50,000 armed personnel, police, coast guards and
    emergency servicemen for the Olympics.

    International Olympic Committee President Jacques Rogge
    has said that "everything humanly possible is being done"
    for the Olympics, but the security concern has been
    highlighted following the series of terrorist attacks in
    Madrid last Thursday, which killed about 200 people and
    injured another 1,400.

  2. "Larry Weisenthal" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Holy Cow. I'm beginning to think that the Olympics may
    finally be creating


    more

    Quoted message said:

    problems than they are worth.

    The Olympics have always been more trouble than they were
    worth, because people invest them with pilitics.

    I remember those happy bygone days -- when the

    Quoted message said:

    worst of our worries was who was taking what drug.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >

    Missile umbrella to shield Athens Olympiad (Xinhua)
    Updated: 2004-03-16 09:16

    A "missile umbrella" made up of Patriot, Stinger and
    Hawk missile


    batteries

    Quoted message said:

    will protect Athens in an effort to boost defense against
    terrorism during


    the

    Quoted message said:

    upcoming Olympic Games scheduled for Aug. 13-29, local
    media reported


    Monday.

    Quoted message said:

    There can be no effective defence against terrorism. It is a
    struggle of ideas carried out with weapons. It can not be
    defeated with weapons, only ideas.

    Quoted message said:

    The air defense map for the safety of the Olympic Games
    is ready,


    according to

    Quoted message said:

    the Athens Greek-language newspaper " Apogevmatini".

    The air defense umbrella will be completed with the
    presence of Mirage


    2000 and

    Quoted message said:

    F-16 interception fighter jets as well as the state-of-art
    single engine turboprop aircraft T-6A Texan II and flying
    radar stations.

    Similar protection will have other four Greek cities with
    Olympic venues.


    The

    Quoted message said:

    country will also be protected from nuclear threat, as the
    responsible authorities consider any likelihood.

    Security issue has been the top worry for the
    international community,


    although

    Quoted message said:

    Greek government has earmarked a record 650 million euros
    (US$820 million)


    for

    Quoted message said:

    the Olympic security budget, three times as much as that
    for Sydney


    Olympic

    Quoted message said:

    Games, and 50,000 armed personnel, police, coast guards
    and emergency servicemen for the Olympics.

    International Olympic Committee President Jacques Rogge
    has said that "everything humanly possible is being done"
    for the Olympics, but the


    security

    Quoted message said:

    concern has been highlighted following the series of
    terrorist attacks in Madrid last Thursday, which killed
    about 200 people and injured another


    1,400.

    The greatest gift the USA could give to the world sporting
    community would be to stay away from the Olympics. I regret
    that the same is now true of the UK, as we have a US poodle
    for a Prime Minister currently. The US Government does not
    own the Olympics, but as with everything else in the world,
    it acts as if it does. Well Larry......you started it.

  3. On the Today show yesterday, the head of the American
    security delegation (in response to a rumour we might
    boycott the Games) said that Los Angeles has been designated
    as the back-up location for the Games should Athens be
    unable to ensure security and/or completion of the
    facilities.

    Larry Weisenthal left this mess on 16 Mar 2004 05:15:32 GMT
    for The Way to clean up:

    Quoted message said:


    Holy Cow. I'm beginning to think that the Olympics may
    finally be creating more problems than they are worth. I
    remember those happy bygone days -- when the worst of our
    worries was who was taking what drug.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >

    Missile umbrella to shield Athens Olympiad (Xinhua)
    Updated: 2004-03-16 09:16

    A "missile umbrella" made up of Patriot, Stinger and Hawk
    missile batteries will protect Athens in an effort to boost
    defense against terrorism during the upcoming Olympic Games
    scheduled for Aug. 13-29, local media reported Monday.

    The air defense map for the safety of the Olympic Games is
    ready, according to the Athens Greek-language newspaper "
    Apogevmatini".

    The air defense umbrella will be completed with the
    presence of Mirage 2000 and F-16 interception fighter jets
    as well as the state-of-art single engine turboprop
    aircraft T-6A Texan II and flying radar stations.

    Similar protection will have other four Greek cities with
    Olympic venues. The country will also be protected from
    nuclear threat, as the responsible authorities consider any
    likelihood.

    Security issue has been the top worry for the international
    community, although Greek government has earmarked a record
    650 million euros (US$820 million) for the Olympic security
    budget, three times as much as that for Sydney Olympic
    Games, and 50,000 armed personnel, police, coast guards and
    emergency servicemen for the Olympics.

    International Olympic Committee President Jacques Rogge
    has said that "everything humanly possible is being done"
    for the Olympics, but the security concern has been
    highlighted following the series of terrorist attacks in
    Madrid last Thursday, which killed about 200 people and
    injured another 1,400.

    Tao te Carl "It takes a village to have an idiot." -
    Carl (c) 2003

    (Kudos to Cap'n Jim Wyatt for this link) BEFORE you ask a
    dumb-ass question
    here...http://www.speakeasy.org/~neilco/bart.gif

  4. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    The greatest gift the USA could give to the world sporting
    community would be to stay away from the Olympics. I
    regret that the same is now true of the UK, as we have a
    US poodle for a Prime Minister currently. The US
    Government does not own the Olympics, but as with
    everything else in the world, it acts as if it does. Well
    Larry......you started it.

    I concur in large part with the concept of battling
    terrorists with ideas, but the U.S. deciding not to attend
    the Olympics for fear of a terrorist attack would constitute
    a failure in the war of ideas. Central to the concept of
    using ideas as a weapon is not backing down in the face of
    violence. Allowing yourself to be manipulated by violence is
    no better than attempting to assert your will by violence.
    Besides, I would wager the odds of a terror attack occurring
    are hardly effected at all by U.S. participation. Madrid
    demonstrated that pretty well, I think.

    - Al

  5. Quoted message said:

    The greatest gift the USA could give to the world sporting
    community would be to stay away from the Olympics. I
    regret that the same is now true of


    the

    Quoted message said:

    UK, as we have a US poodle for a Prime Minister
    currently. The US


    Government

    Quoted message said:

    does not own the Olympics, but as with everything else in
    the world, it


    acts

    Quoted message said:

    as if it does. Well Larry......you started it.

    Yeah, in a way as sad as it sounds you may be right. If the
    US and UK stayed out of the games, other countries may have
    a good time. What a mess
    G.W. and your poodle as you put it has made things. They
    are doing a terrible job IMHO and are doing more harm
    than good. Oh well, oil and money make people do
    unthinkable things.

    Enjoy, Curt

  6. You're much more likely to die in a street mugging in Los
    Angeles than from a terrorist bomb in Athens.

    "de Valois" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On the Today show yesterday, the head of the American
    security delegation


    (in

    Quoted message said:

    response to a rumour we might boycott the Games) said that
    Los Angeles has


    been

    Quoted message said:

    designated as the back-up location for the Games should
    Athens be unable


    to

    Quoted message said:

    ensure security and/or completion of the facilities.

    Larry Weisenthal left this mess on 16 Mar 2004 05:15:32
    GMT for The Way to


    clean

    Quoted message said:

    up:

    Quoted message said:


    Holy Cow. I'm beginning to think that the Olympics may
    finally be


    creating more

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    problems than they are worth. I remember those happy
    bygone days -- when


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    worst of our worries was who was taking what drug.

    Quoted message said:

    >>

    Missile umbrella to shield Athens Olympiad (Xinhua)
    Updated: 2004-03-16 09:16

    A "missile umbrella" made up of Patriot, Stinger and Hawk
    missile


    batteries

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    will protect Athens in an effort to boost defense against
    terrorism


    during the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    upcoming Olympic Games scheduled for Aug. 13-29, local
    media reported


    Monday.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    The air defense map for the safety of the Olympic Games
    is ready,


    according to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the Athens Greek-language newspaper " Apogevmatini".

    The air defense umbrella will be completed with the
    presence of Mirage


    2000 and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    F-16 interception fighter jets as well as the state-of-
    art single engine turboprop aircraft T-6A Texan II and
    flying radar stations.

    Similar protection will have other four Greek cities with
    Olympic venues.


    The

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    country will also be protected from nuclear threat, as
    the responsible authorities consider any likelihood.

    Security issue has been the top worry for the
    international community,


    although

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Greek government has earmarked a record 650 million euros
    (US$820


    million) for

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the Olympic security budget, three times as much as that
    for Sydney


    Olympic

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Games, and 50,000 armed personnel, police, coast guards
    and emergency servicemen for the Olympics.

    International Olympic Committee President Jacques Rogge
    has said that "everything humanly possible is being done"
    for the Olympics, but the


    security

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    concern has been highlighted following the series of
    terrorist attacks in Madrid last Thursday, which killed
    about 200 people and injured another


    1,400.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Tao te Carl "It takes a village to have an idiot." - Carl
    (c) 2003

    (Kudos to Cap'n Jim Wyatt for this link) BEFORE you ask a
    dumb-ass


    question

    Quoted message said:

    here...http://www.speakeasy.org/~neilco/bart.gif

  7. Heck - in 2001 it was more then 300 times more likely that
    an american would die of heart disease then in some little
    mishap in september. Heck the numbers say more people died
    of heart attacks & what not _the_same_day_ then those at the
    world trade center.

    --Mike

    On Tue, 16 Mar 2004

    19:04:35 +0000 said:

    You're much more likely to die in a street mugging in Los
    Angeles than from a terrorist bomb in Athens.

    "de Valois" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On the Today show yesterday, the head of the American
    security delegation


    (in

    Quoted message said:

    response to a rumour we might boycott the Games) said
    that Los Angeles has


    been

    Quoted message said:

    designated as the back-up location for the Games should
    Athens be unable


    to

    Quoted message said:

    ensure security and/or completion of the facilities.

    Larry Weisenthal left this mess on 16 Mar 2004 05:15:32
    GMT for The Way to


    clean

    Quoted message said:

    up:

    Quoted message said:


    Holy Cow. I'm beginning to think that the Olympics may
    finally be


    creating more

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    problems than they are worth. I remember those happy
    bygone days -- when


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    worst of our worries was who was taking what drug.

    >>>

    Missile umbrella to shield Athens Olympiad (Xinhua)
    Updated: 2004-03-16 09:16

    A "missile umbrella" made up of Patriot, Stinger and
    Hawk missile


    batteries

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    will protect Athens in an effort to boost defense
    against terrorism


    during the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    upcoming Olympic Games scheduled for Aug. 13-29, local
    media reported


    Monday.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    The air defense map for the safety of the Olympic Games
    is ready,


    according to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the Athens Greek-language newspaper " Apogevmatini".

    The air defense umbrella will be completed with the
    presence of Mirage


    2000 and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    F-16 interception fighter jets as well as the state-of-
    art single engine turboprop aircraft T-6A Texan II and
    flying radar stations.

    Similar protection will have other four Greek cities
    with Olympic venues.


    The

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    country will also be protected from nuclear threat, as
    the responsible authorities consider any likelihood.

    Security issue has been the top worry for the
    international community,


    although

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Greek government has earmarked a record 650 million
    euros (US$820


    million) for

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the Olympic security budget, three times as much as that
    for Sydney


    Olympic

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Games, and 50,000 armed personnel, police, coast guards
    and emergency servicemen for the Olympics.

    International Olympic Committee President Jacques Rogge
    has said that "everything humanly possible is being
    done" for the Olympics, but the


    security

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    concern has been highlighted following the series of
    terrorist attacks in Madrid last Thursday, which killed
    about 200 people and injured another


    1,400.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Tao te Carl "It takes a village to have an idiot." - Carl
    (c) 2003

    (Kudos to Cap'n Jim Wyatt for this link) BEFORE you ask a
    dumb-ass


    question

    Quoted message said:

    here...http://www.speakeasy.org/~neilco/bart.gif

  8. In message <[email hidden]>,
    Mike Edey <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    Heck - in 2001 it was more then 300 times more likely that
    an american would die of heart disease then in some little
    mishap in september. Heck the numbers say more people died
    of heart attacks & what not _the_same_day_ then those at
    the world trade center.

    Yes there is a simple rule. Never worry about anything that
    you see on the news. To get on the news it must be
    sufficiently rare that your chances of being involved are
    negligible!

    --
    Richard Cant

  9. Mike Edey said:

    Heck - in 2001 it was more then 300 times more likely that
    an american would die of heart disease then in some little
    mishap in september. Heck the numbers say more people died
    of heart attacks & what not _the_same_day_ then those at
    the world trade center.

    Then we should stop wasting the enormous and increasing
    amount of money we are spending on the olympics and spend
    it on eliminating heart disease by promoting health and
    fitness instead.

    martin

  10. Richard Cant said:

    In message <[email hidden]>,
    Mike Edey <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    Heck - in 2001 it was more then 300 times more likely that
    an american would die of heart disease then in some little
    mishap in september. Heck the numbers say more people died
    of heart attacks & what not _the_same_day_ then those at
    the world trade center.

    Yes there is a simple rule. Never worry about anything that
    you see on the news. To get on the news it must be
    sufficiently rare that your chances of being involved are
    negligible!

    Oh, man that is great. Possibly the truest statement I have
    ever heard on the subject of relative risk. Thanks.

  11. No [censored]. That little fact probably escaped their notice.

    Duncan Heenan left this mess on Tue, 16 Mar 2004 19:04:35
    -0000 for The Way to clean up:

    Quoted message said:


    You're much more likely to die in a street mugging in Los
    Angeles than from a terrorist bomb in Athens.

    "de Valois" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On the Today show yesterday, the head of the American
    security delegation


    (in

    Quoted message said:

    response to a rumour we might boycott the Games) said
    that Los Angeles has


    been

    Quoted message said:

    designated as the back-up location for the Games should
    Athens be unable


    to

    Quoted message said:

    ensure security and/or completion of the facilities.

    Larry Weisenthal left this mess on 16 Mar 2004 05:15:32
    GMT for The Way to


    clean

    Quoted message said:

    up:

    Quoted message said:


    Holy Cow. I'm beginning to think that the Olympics may
    finally be


    creating more

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    problems than they are worth. I remember those happy
    bygone days -- when


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    worst of our worries was who was taking what drug.

    >>>

    Missile umbrella to shield Athens Olympiad (Xinhua)
    Updated: 2004-03-16 09:16

    A "missile umbrella" made up of Patriot, Stinger and
    Hawk missile


    batteries

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    will protect Athens in an effort to boost defense
    against terrorism


    during the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    upcoming Olympic Games scheduled for Aug. 13-29, local
    media reported


    Monday.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    The air defense map for the safety of the Olympic Games
    is ready,


    according to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the Athens Greek-language newspaper " Apogevmatini".

    The air defense umbrella will be completed with the
    presence of Mirage


    2000 and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    F-16 interception fighter jets as well as the state-of-
    art single engine turboprop aircraft T-6A Texan II and
    flying radar stations.

    Similar protection will have other four Greek cities
    with Olympic venues.


    The

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    country will also be protected from nuclear threat, as
    the responsible authorities consider any likelihood.

    Security issue has been the top worry for the
    international community,


    although

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Greek government has earmarked a record 650 million
    euros (US$820


    million) for

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the Olympic security budget, three times as much as that
    for Sydney


    Olympic

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Games, and 50,000 armed personnel, police, coast guards
    and emergency servicemen for the Olympics.

    International Olympic Committee President Jacques Rogge
    has said that "everything humanly possible is being
    done" for the Olympics, but the


    security

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    concern has been highlighted following the series of
    terrorist attacks in Madrid last Thursday, which killed
    about 200 people and injured another


    1,400.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Tao te Carl "It takes a village to have an idiot." - Carl
    (c) 2003

    (Kudos to Cap'n Jim Wyatt for this link) BEFORE you ask a
    dumb-ass


    question

    Quoted message said:

    here...http://www.speakeasy.org/~neilco/bart.gif

    Tao te Carl "It takes a village to have an idiot." -
    Carl (c) 2003

    (Kudos to Cap'n Jim Wyatt for this link) BEFORE you ask a
    dumb-ass question
    here...http://www.speakeasy.org/~neilco/bart.gif

  12. Mike Edey left this mess on Tue, 16 Mar 2004 20:22:21 GMT for The Way to clean
    up:

    Quoted message said:


    Heck - in 2001 it was more then 300 times more likely that
    an american would die of heart disease then in some little
    mishap in september. Heck the numbers say more people died
    of heart attacks & what not _the_same_day_ then those at
    the world trade center.

    --Mike

    Not "quite" true. Compiled statistics (I love trolling the
    morbidity and mortality reports on the government
    websites) indicate only about a 1,000 people died of heart
    attacks that were suffered ON September 11. However, if
    you expand your comment to include how many people were
    admitted to hospitals with heart attacks that day, then
    you have a point.

    Tao te Carl "It takes a village to have an idiot." -
    Carl (c) 2003

    (Kudos to Cap'n Jim Wyatt for this link) BEFORE you ask a
    dumb-ass question
    here...http://www.speakeasy.org/~neilco/bart.gif

  13. "Larry Weisenthal" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    You're much more likely to die in a street mugging in
    Los Angeles than


    from

    Quoted message said:

    a terrorist bomb in Athens.<<

    Such random "street muggings" are quite rare. Most LA
    homocides involve


    people

    Quoted message said:

    who know each other quarreling with each other, gang
    related attacks on


    other

    Quoted message said:

    gang members, or robberies of convenience stores and the
    like. The


    University

    Quoted message said:

    of Southern California, the Staples Center (home of two
    NBA teams and one


    NHL

    Quoted message said:

    team), the LA Coliseum, and the LA Convention Center are
    all located in


    the

    Quoted message said:

    heart of the city, yet violence directed at students,
    convention goers,


    and/or

    Quoted message said:

    sports fans is vanishingly rare.

    Would you care to compare the actual numbers of momicides in
    Los Angeles in, say since September 11th 2001, with the
    number of people killed in Athens by Terrorists?

  14. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    Would you care to compare the actual numbers of momicides
    in Los Angeles in, say since September 11th 2001, with the
    number of people killed in Athens by Terrorists?

    Yes, but how many of these moms were prepared in advance
    with a Homeland Security Approved rolling pin? :-) Happy St.
    Patrick's Day!

    - Al

  15. "Larry Weisenthal" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    You're much more likely to die in a street mugging in
    Los Angeles than


    from

    Quoted message said:

    a terrorist bomb in Athens.<<

    Such random "street muggings" are quite rare. Most LA
    homocides involve


    people

    Quoted message said:

    who know each other quarreling with each other, gang
    related attacks on


    other

    Quoted message said:

    gang members, or robberies of convenience stores and the
    like. The


    University

    Quoted message said:

    of Southern California, the Staples Center (home of two
    NBA teams and one


    NHL

    Quoted message said:

    team), the LA Coliseum, and the LA Convention Center are
    all located in


    the

    Quoted message said:

    heart of the city, yet violence directed at students,
    convention goers,


    and/or

    Quoted message said:

    sports fans is vanishingly rare.

    Would you care to compare the actual numbers of momicides in
    Los Angeles in, say since September 11th 2001, with the
    number of people killed in Athens by Terrorists?

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