securing unicycles advice needed

How about putting one long steel rod through the pedal holes of all the
unis and lean them against the wall? One end of the rod could have a
loop and in the other one you could drill a hole where you put a
padlock.

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don't know if they have them in the UK, but i've stored my stateside
unicycle on a two pronged bike rack. 'someting like this.'
(http://www.bikeracks.com/html/wara.html) but much cheaper $20 or so
from the hardware store. the two prongs hold the seat and stand
theunicycle up very nicely. with a drill and a masonry bit and some
screws/nails that hold in brick you should be set.

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markf said:

don't know if they have them in the UK, but i've stored my stateside
unicycle on a two pronged bike rack. 'someting like this.'
(http://www.bikeracks.com/html/wara.html) but much cheaper $20 or so
from the hardware store. the two prongs hold the seat and stand
theunicycle up very nicely. with a drill and a masonry bit and some
screws/nails that hold in brick you should be set.

I've never seen exactly that, but my local B&Q has a good selection of
big hooks. In my workshop I have two bikes hanging on a two-pronged
rack designed for that purpose. My Coker is hanging on 2 big hooks, my
Muni is hanging on 2 slightly smaller hooks and I have an additional 3
hooks that I use for spare wheels, rims and tyres. (I also have 2
bikes, 2 trailers, one unicycle, 2 ultimate wheels and DD's trike
standing round the edges of the room, because I've run out of space on
the walls).

How much use they may be may depend upon what the OP actually meant by
"secure". Dave, do you mean "so that they won't fall off" or "so that
they won't be stolen"?

If the latter, how much of a theft deterrent do you need? Would it be
enough to simply run a cable through the wheels of all 5 yikes?

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To clarify: -

by secure I mean so they can't easily be stolen.

a further thing is that they're going to be hung on a community centre
wall, and they have to look kind of 'displayed' i.e. nice.

the last resort is to use hooks to hang the unis on the wall, then run a
chaim through the wheels and secure, probably with some kind of eye
bolt.

we were actually wanting originally to find some form of 'curved hasp'
for each uni that could be locked by padlocks; however, extensive
trudging round sheffields DIY stores has not yielded anything.

One thing I am going to look into is if a local metal worker can make
something custom.

Cheers for the ideas 🙂

what I could use is any advice on drilling and mounting stuff into brick
walls, as I've never actually done it- for example, do I need to use
those plastic filler plugs?

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attaching things to brick/concrete isn't hard. you just have to realize
its different than wood. You'll need a good power drill with a masonry
bit, or if you need to make really really big holes, a tool called a
hammer drill. It can make whole in concrete big enough for 1/2 inch
rebar. fun to use for short periods of time. you'd also need masonry
screws, or a nail-like device called a "grip-con", the little plastic
thing(a molly bolt) isn't really needed, nor would it do you much good.
The best way to figure out what you need for your mounts would be to
take one of them into a hardware store and ask the sales person "i'm
gonna be attaching 5 of these to a brick wall, what's the best way to do
that?" and i'm sure they'll be even more helpful that i was.

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you also might want to be quite careful, which ever way you're doing it,
if it's small brown bricks you'll want to drill a small hole then go
larger till you get your desired width, because they're less then an
inch thick because the inside of the brick us usually hollow, an
interesting idea would to attach a bike rack (usually for a truck) onto
the wall, then put the uni's horizontal and hook a lock around one side
of the fork, the stem up to the seat, and through the spokes in the
wheel and make it reletively tight, being sure not to put too much
pressure on the wheel 🙂, just might look kool, lol

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onewheeldave said:

we were actually wanting originally to find some form of 'curved hasp'
for each uni that could be locked by padlocks; however, extensive
trudging round sheffields DIY stores has not yielded anything.

Instead of a curved hasp, why not use flat hasps and cut notches big
enough to hold the seatpost in a piece of wood? The hasp has to be at
least 4" from the wall to allow for the width of the seat, so you need
the wood anyway. I'd use a substantial piece of lumber like a 4"x4"
(10x10cm), but even then you'll have to shim it out from the wall
another inch or so.

Ken

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How about putting one long steel rod through the pedal holes of all the
unis and lean them against the wall? One end of the rod could have a
loop and in the other one you could drill a hole where you put a
padlock.

and get rid of any quick release seat clamps, or find another way to secure
the seats.

Nao

When i'm out shopping, or whatever, i usualy takes my unicycle (20"
trainer) with me, just to be able to get around in a stylish way.

Anyway, I just can't take my uni with me everywhere i go, and i don't
feel like leaving it with no lock at all.

What kind of lock should i use? Is the regular U-locks good?
They might be a bit hard to carry around, and a flexible (and cheaper)
lock would be a bit better, but is it secure?

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I find those locks that look like this
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U
aren't very sturdy, i've heard of ppl getting them broken and stuff
stolen, i'd go with one of those coiled cable bike locks, i've used em
forever, only gotten my seat stolen... 🙁

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If your buying U locks keep in mind older Kryptonite and other locks
that use a round key to open them can be opened in with a ball point
pen. Be sure to get a newer style one that is not affected by this
comprimise in security.

Mike

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Checkernuts said:

If your buying U locks keep in mind older Kryptonite and other locks
that use a round key to open them can be opened in with a ball point
pen. Be sure to get a newer style one that is not affected by this
comprimise in security.

Cylindrical tumblers aren't the problem - Kryptonite just made a major
blunder in a recent model by exposing the inside of the latching
mechanism. Other models don't suffer from that problem.

Ken

It might be worth trying a chandlers / boat bits shop, as they have all
manner of funny fixings. Also, there are fixing specialists who make
this sort of thing. Another thing to look at is motorcycle locks /
anchors there are all manner of ways of fixing them to floors, there may
be something you can use for a uni.

Joe

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Ken Cline said:

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Cylindrical tumblers aren't the problem - Kryptonite just made a
major
blunder in a recent model by exposing the inside of the latching
mechanism. Other models don't suffer from that problem.

Ken *

The problem was not just limited to Kryptonite locks though, I've seen a
handful of other brands who used the same locking mechenisims, I
personally have opened them with a pen as well. This blunder was also
not limited to recent models of locks, my roomate has a 10 year old
Kryptonite lock that was just as easy to open up as ones that were a
month old. From what I know Kryptonite no longer offeres any locks with
the old style Cylindrical keys.

I am interested into seeing what kind of locks you are refering to that
use this locking style that are not comprimised. I know Vending locks
that use round keys that are alegedly not affected, but I do not know
about any bike locks out there that use a cylindrical key and could not
be opened with ease.

Mike

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Checkernuts said:

*I am interested into seeing what kind of locks you are refering to
that use this locking style that are not comprimised. I know Vending
locks that use round keys that are alegedly not affected, but I do not
know about any bike locks out there that use a cylindrical key and
could not be opened with ease. *

Not all locks that use the round key are susceptible to being unlocked
by a Bic pen. It depends on how the lock was made. Things like
stronger springs in the tumblers and other fixes can prevent the Bic pen
trick from working.

The 'Master Lock Cuff Locks' (http://tinyurl.com/5s2u5) have a round key
and reportedly cannot be opened with the Bic pen trick. So not all
locks with a round key are affected.

It's not just some of the Kryptonite locks that had/have this problem.
Other locks like those used to lock laptop computers to a desk can also
be compromised with a Bic pen.

It all sucks because it adds a lot of uncertainty about how secure
various locks are that use those round keys. It's hard to know if
you've got a good lock or a bad lock.

For those unfamiliar with the situation just Google on "'kryptonite bic
pen lock' (http://tinyurl.com/4vuy4)" for the scoop.

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Checkernuts said:

*I am interested into seeing what kind of locks you are refering to
that use this locking style that are not comprimised. I know Vending
locks that use round keys that are alegedly not affected, but I do not
know about any bike locks out there that use a cylindrical key and
could not be opened with ease. *

Not all locks that use the round key are susceptible to being unlocked
by a Bic pen. It depends on how the lock was made. Things like
stronger springs in the tumblers and other fixes can prevent the Bic pen
trick from working.

The 'Master Lock Cuff Locks' (http://tinyurl.com/5s2u5) have a round key
and reportedly cannot be opened with the Bic pen trick. So not all
locks with a round key are affected.

It's not just some of the Kryptonite locks that had/have this problem.
Other locks like those used to lock laptop computers to a desk can also
be compromised with a Bic pen.

It all sucks because it adds a lot of uncertainty about how secure
various locks are that use those round keys. It's hard to know if
you've got a good lock or a bad lock.

For those unfamiliar with the situation just Google on "'kryptonite bic
pen lock' (http://tinyurl.com/4vuy4)" for the scoop.

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Checkernuts said:

The problem was not just limited to Kryptonite locks though, I've seen a
handful of other brands who used the same locking mechenisims, I
personally have opened them with a pen as well.

Thanks, Checkernuts. I misunderstood the vulnerabilities. For what
it's worth, I can't open either my Kryptonite or Avenir locks using
the body of a pen as a lockpick.

Ken

Chew on the end of the pen for a bit, also the white bic ones seem to
work the best, probably because they are the cheapiest. All you need to
do is jam the pen into the lock and with pressure twist, Bingo bango you
have yourself an open lock.

As far as the anchors I was looking at the kryptonite website and they
have some that may be usefull for your project dave.

Personally I would put up hooks that you can hang the frames off of and
then use a short length of cable to go through the frame and anchor that
to the wall. If they are in a fairly secure place and you dont need to
worry about people comming in with cutters you can use a fairly thin and
not so noticable cable to lock them with.

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The U-Locks are really not very secure, and it's a structural issue. I
lost the key to a U lock once, with my bike still locked in. All I had
to do was set up the lock at the correct angle and bash it with a rock a
few times before the metal pin inside busted and it opened.

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