Secrets for successful dining out

Butch up.

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Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

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Temptation is in the restaurant . . . any suggestions??
Kaede

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Kaede Nakao said:

Temptation is in the restaurant . . . any suggestions??

Have a small protien snack before going. I know, it smacks of "why go
out?", but it can reduce the temptation to have "just a bite". Stick with
steamed (or grilled) veggies and plain protien and you'll do ok. Bring your
own lowcarb sauces/dressings if you can. Think about what you want to order
before you go, and don't look at the menu. It's designed to get you to fill
up on all the cheap (for them) carbs. Above all, don't think about what
you can't have, but rather remind yourself that lowcarb is not only a
healthier way to eat, it's more luxurious, and classier too-- ie you're
giving yourself a *real* treat everytime you treat your body right.

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revek
"Double Fannucci: A game played with cards." - Encyclopedia Frobozzica

and the success is in the ordering.

Order right, eat right.

Jennifer

Kaede Nakao said:

Temptation is in the restaurant . . . any suggestions??
Kaede

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http://knakao.blogspot.com/

Ignoramus30876 said:

the secret is this, the less you dine out, the more successful you are.

i definitely agree with this. it is much easier to consistently
maintain good habits when you prepare your own food at home.

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Ignoramus30876 said:

the secret is this, the less you dine out, the more successful you are.

Nonsense. I eat out more than a dozen times a week. Google up some of
my posts on the subject.

KeS

For me, it hasn't been the avoidance of eating out. It's been the
avoidance of eating out at places where I'll be tempted to go off-plan.

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Ignoramus30876 said:

On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 20:59:47 -0800, Kevin Stevens <[email hidden]>

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In article <[email hidden]>,

Ignoramus30876 said:

the secret is this, the less you dine out, the more successful you are.

Nonsense. I eat out more than a dozen times a week. Google up some of
my posts on the subject.

I googled some of your posts, you seem to be at 217 lbs at the moment.

Um, yes.. is that a problem? If you're implying my WOE is unsuccessful,
I've dropped 88 lbs since I started 8/1/4, and am about 75% of the way
to goal. If you found anything that had 217 in it, I believe it had the
rest of the stats as well, so you knew that and chose to ignore it.

If you have another point, please make it. *My* point is that success
or failure isn't tied to eating in or out. I ate out a lot when I was
gaining weight, and I eat out a lot while I'm losing weight. Because
something is a problem for you doesn't make it a universal.

KeS

Actually, for me, it's easier to have good habits eating out - as long
as I stick to the same few places. It's at home that I'm tempted to
just go for something quick.

Kevin Stevens said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Ignoramus30876 said:

Kevin Stevens said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
Ignoramus30876 <[email hidden]> wrote:

> the secret is this, the less you dine out, the more successful
> you are.

Nonsense. I eat out more than a dozen times a week. Google up
some of
my posts on the subject.

I googled some of your posts, you seem to be at 217 lbs at the
moment.

Um, yes.. is that a problem? If you're implying my WOE is
unsuccessful,
I've dropped 88 lbs since I started 8/1/4, and am about 75% of the way
to goal. If you found anything that had 217 in it, I believe it had
the
rest of the stats as well, so you knew that and chose to ignore it.

If you have another point, please make it. *My* point is that success
or failure isn't tied to eating in or out. I ate out a lot when I was
gaining weight, and I eat out a lot while I'm losing weight. Because
something is a problem for you doesn't make it a universal.

Not to mention that 217 could be a very good weight for you. Never let
others attempt to define what is best for you. If you're honest with
yourself, you're the best judge.

The fact of the matter is, one doesn't have to give in to temptation.
That's a choice.

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Actually, for me, it's easier to have good habits eating out - as long
as I stick to the same few places. It's at home that I'm tempted to
just go for something quick.

I eat quick stuff all the time at home. It comes down to what you eat and
how much, though.

How much bodyfat are you carrying as a percentage?

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

"Kevin Stevens" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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In article <[email hidden]>,

Ignoramus30876 said:

the secret is this, the less you dine out, the more successful you are.

Nonsense. I eat out more than a dozen times a week. Google up some of
my posts on the subject.

KeS

Kevin Stevens said:

*My* point is that success or failure isn't tied to eating in or out.

maybe it isn't for you, but you're not everybody. we can't all do the
exact same thing and get the exact same results.

Jennifer said:

and the success is in the ordering.

Order right, eat right.

Jennifer

Kaede Nakao said:

Temptation is in the restaurant . . . any suggestions??
Kaede

176.5/??/115
http://knakao.blogspot.com/

Jennifer, I agree with your approach versus not going out to eat. It
has been my experience that most restaurants want to cater to the needs
of the customers and will welcome substitutions of dishes. For
instance at a mid-Atlantic diner franchise "Silver Diner", they always
will exchange a potato side with broccoli or spinach. Hash browns and
toast that come with a steak and egg breakfast are exchanged for
grilled tomatoe slices.

There are unknowns with this approach for some foods that are prepared
with mayonnaise like tuna salad and chicken salad. Some restaurants
you high fructose corn syrup-based salad dressing instead of a straight
soybean oil, egg yolk, vinegar based mayonnaise.

Authentic BBQ is a perennial restaurant favorite as the rubs do not
contain sugar and they are not coated in any sauce at all. Just
fantastically moist and tender brisket that melts in your mouth. Hot
wings are another choice.

At Chinese restaurants there is often a fish/seafood/chicken/beef dish
that can be ordered without their usual Americanized corn syrup-based
sauces.

There are choices available and then accomodations can be made at
restaurants. Just be certain to explain precisely what you want. Send
back the food that you did not order. The chefs will understand.

Ignoramus30876 said:

The Queen of Cans and Jars said:

Ignoramus30876 said:

the secret is this, the less you dine out, the more successful you are.

i definitely agree with this. it is much easier to consistently
maintain good habits when you prepare your own food at home.

One of those rare moments when we agree... It must be savoured...

🙂

Eat the right foods just before going, so you are in better control as you
hold the menu.

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Temptation is in the restaurant . . . any suggestions??
Kaede

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Quoted message said:

The Queen of Cans and Jars said:

Kevin Stevens said:

*My* point is that success or failure isn't tied to eating in or out.

maybe it isn't for you, but you're not everybody. we can't all do the
exact same thing and get the exact same results.

That was exactly my point. Ignoramus made a global statement that eating
out led to less success. That's simply not true, and since a global
statement can be invalidated by a single contrary experience, I offered my
own.

No doubt some people have more problems eating out - no doubt others have
fewer or lesser problems eating out. *I'm* not the one saying one or the
other is better in all cases.

However, I do resist a lot of the blanket statements that are thrown out
as truisms, (such as "you'll have more success the less you dine out"😉,
because it creates an unnecessarily limiting experience. For any
individual, if you applied all the prescriptions and proscriptions that
are posted as gospel, you'd be living on distilled water and bread, and
turning down the bread! 😉 And one of the GREAT things about low-carb,
in my experience, is that it's much EASIER to eat out while staying on
plan than with lots of other diet plans. So, I don't think it
helpful/supportive to warn people off restaurants, particularly with
unfounded generalizations.

Is that better?

eh. kinda sanctimonious, actually.

but yes - you clarified your point, and i thank you for it.

warehouse,

Quoted message said:

Jennifer, I agree with your approach versus not going out to eat. It
has been my experience that most restaurants want to cater to the

needs

Quoted message said:

of the customers and will welcome substitutions of dishes.

My experience, too. I avoid places that don't do substitutions. And
more and more restaurants (such as Claim Jumper - one of my faves) are
offering you a choice of side dishes as opposed to "comes with one
potato and one veggie".

Quoted message said:

For instance at a mid-Atlantic diner franchise "Silver Diner", they

always

Quoted message said:

will exchange a potato side with broccoli or spinach. Hash browns and
toast that come with a steak and egg breakfast are exchanged for
grilled tomatoe slices.

Most of the places I go to, will do this. At Mimi's, I can always get
salad greens instead of potato, when I order an omelette.

Quoted message said:

There are unknowns with this approach for some foods that are prepared
with mayonnaise like tuna salad and chicken salad. Some restaurants
you high fructose corn syrup-based salad dressing instead of a

straight

Quoted message said:

soybean oil, egg yolk, vinegar based mayonnaise.

Which is why I always get oil and vinegar only.

Quoted message said:

At Chinese restaurants there is often a fish/seafood/chicken/beef dish
that can be ordered without their usual Americanized corn syrup-based
sauces.

Been my experience, too.

Marsha said:

The Queen of Cans and Jars said:

Ignoramus30876 said:

the secret is this, the less you dine out, the more successful you are.

i definitely agree with this. it is much easier to consistently
maintain good habits when you prepare your own food at home.

Not to mention you know that nobody dropped it on the floor,
sneezed in it, etc.

truly.

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: >>the secret is this, the less you dine out, the more successful
you are.
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successful at what?
staying home and not making LOW CARB a lifestyle?
imo, the sooner a person learns HOW to LIVE life while LOW CARBING,
which for me includes restaurants, the sooner it becomes a WOL (way
of life).
YMMV,
rosie