Seal vs Seal XP mask

I've had both and I think Seal XP is better in every way except that it
gives less visibility looking down. Otherwise, it's lighter, doesn't
fog as badly, has less drag.

Jon

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Newbie swimmer here

What is the diff between these tow mask as far as
usage?

Where would a person want the Seal XP over the reg Seal
mask?

John

Jon said:

I've had both and I think Seal XP is better in every way except that it
gives less visibility looking down. Otherwise, it's lighter, doesn't
fog as badly, has less drag.

Jon

Thanks so much Jon

I want to start exercise swimming this year in an
indoor YMCA pool

There is so much to chose form its kind of bewildering
any more. <G>

John

Jon said:

I've had both and I think Seal XP is better in every way except that it
gives less visibility looking down. Otherwise, it's lighter, doesn't
fog as badly, has less drag.

Jon

Jon..... Id be using above mask indoors during winter
but at outdoor pool during summer

Any advice on tint to get if any? Get dark tint? Amber
tint?

I have VERY bad eyes... very near sighted. I'm not
wanting vision corrected swim mask or anything. But
didn't know what type to get or if to get tinting.

John

Unfortunately, I think you really need 2 pairs. I have the
photochromatic version and while they're great outside, they'd be too
dark inside (even swimming outside in the early evening when the sun
goes down, they're too dark). On the other hand, I have a pair of blue
tinted Kaman goggles and those don't block out enough light outdoors.
So, I'd get photochromatic outdoors, clear indoors (and the Kaman's are
less expensive, very nice goggles that also don't leak, and are good
for lap swimming in a pool (for outside, they don't give you the same
large field of vision that the Seal XP's do).

Best,
Jon

Jon said:

So, I'd get photochromatic outdoors, clear indoors (and the Kaman's are
less expensive, very nice goggles that also don't leak, and are good
for lap swimming in a pool (for outside, they don't give you the same
large field of vision that the Seal XP's do).

Thanks you've been a lot of help for someone who
doesn't know much abt this stuff

I will get two pairs. Ill just get clear for now and
worry abt the tinted ones next summer.

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What is the diff between these tow mask as far as
usage?
Where would a person want the Seal XP over the reg Seal
mask?

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I've had both and I think Seal XP is better in every way except that it
gives less visibility looking down. Otherwise, it's lighter, doesn't
fog as badly, has less drag.

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I also have used both versions.

I bought the regular Seal mask first and liked the visibility it
offered. It eventually came apart (lenses dropped out - which may be a
function of larger lens size and fatigue of the materials used) and was
almost impossible to reassemble.

Switching to the Seal XP mask I found it offered reduced drag in the
pool, and also marked my face less. However, I've just taught myself how
to tumble turn at the end of free-style lengths, and the Seal XP let in
water during the turn and push off. It was a problem I couldn't fix
through adapting the fit of the strap. The mask can also let water in if
you dive into the water wearing it.

Because of this only yesterday I bought myself regular Speedo 'Active
Glacier' goggles, though I haven't tried them out yet.

Almost all of my regular swimming is in an indoor pool, so I've not had
to consider tinted lenses. But I found that for outdoor swimming, mostly
in private pools and the sea while on holiday (just returned from two
very sunny weeks in Spain), I didn't need tinted lenses.

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What is the diff between these tow mask as far as
usage?
Where would a person want the Seal XP over the reg Seal
mask?

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I've had both and I think Seal XP is better in every way except that it
gives less visibility looking down. Otherwise, it's lighter, doesn't
fog as badly, has less drag.

Posts repositioned correctly (I hope).

I also have used both versions.

I bought the regular Seal mask first and liked the visibility it
offered. It eventually came apart (lenses dropped out - which may be a
function of larger lens size and fatigue of the materials used) and was
almost impossible to reassemble.

Switching to the Seal XP mask I found it offered reduced drag in the
pool, and also marked my face less. However, I've just taught myself how
to tumble turn at the end of free-style lengths, and the Seal XP let in
water during the turn and push off. It was a problem I couldn't fix
through adapting the fit of the strap. The mask can also let water in if
you dive into the water wearing it.

Because of this only yesterday I bought myself regular Speedo 'Active
Glacier' goggles, though I haven't tried them out yet.

Almost all of my regular swimming is in an indoor pool, so I've not had
to consider tinted lenses. But I found that for outdoor swimming, mostly
in private pools and the sea while on holiday (just returned from two
very sunny weeks in Spain), I didn't need tinted lenses.

--
congokid
Good restaurants in London? Number one on Google
http://congokid.com

congokid said:

which may be a
function of larger lens size and fatigue of the materials used) and was
almost impossible to reassemble.

Thanks for that info!!

There may be in fact a structural advantage to NOT
having as big as lenses as the Seal mask provides. Yes?

congokid said:

Almost all of my regular swimming is in an indoor pool, so I've not had
to consider tinted lenses. But I found that for outdoor swimming, mostly
in private pools and the sea while on holiday (just returned from two
very sunny weeks in Spain), I didn't need tinted lenses.

So you have plain clear lenses... no tinting at all
right?

Not even amber tinting?

I always thought amber tinting was nice cause it made
things stand out more?

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So you have plain clear lenses... no tinting at all
right?

I may have used pale blue tinted lenses at some stage in the past, but
all my recent masks/goggles have been colourless.

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Not even amber tinting?

I always thought amber tinting was nice cause it made
things stand out more?

Sounds nice. I was in the Speedo section in Selfridges' sports
department yesterday <http://www.selfridges.co.uk/> and was checking
goggles, but don't remember seeing amber tinted lenses.

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There may be in fact a structural advantage to NOT
having as big as lenses as the Seal mask provides. Yes?

Possibly. The more compact Seal XP certainly seems sturdier, and hasn't
come apart yet. I always store and transport my goggles in the original
cases to prevent lens scratches and other damage.

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I recently purchased the XP and love it. Great fit, very comfortable and
provides good visibility. I have the amber lenses and they work equally
well in dark or bright conditions. My eyes are real sensitive in the bright
light without sunglasses but when I use the amber XPs there is no problem.
As well, I have not had any problems with them when doing flip turns. They
have held tight. After many years of competitve swimming I decided to try
the XP and not use goggles. If I was competing where a dive entry and hydro
dynamics came into play, I would still use goggles. But for tri swims or
open water training, the XP is the way to go.
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Newbie swimmer here

What is the diff between these tow mask as far as
usage?

Where would a person want the Seal XP over the reg Seal
mask?

John

Marc said:

I recently purchased the XP and love it. Great fit, very comfortable and
provides good visibility. I have the amber lenses and they work equally
well in dark or bright conditions. My eyes are real sensitive in the bright
light without sunglasses but when I use the amber XPs there is no problem.
As well, I have not had any problems with them when doing flip turns. They
have held tight. After many years of competitve swimming I decided to try
the XP and not use goggles. If I was competing where a dive entry and hydro
dynamics came into play, I would still use goggles. But for tri swims or
open water training, the XP is the way to go.

Thanks Marc!

Did you mail order yours?

Do you have a good mail order source for swim gear? I
live in a small town with no retail source locally....
have to mail order.

I got mine at Performace Bike. Here is the direct link:
http://www.performancebike.com/shop/profile.cfm?sku=20174

I have a credit card where I get money towards Performance products. I paid
$8.31 for my total order which included the XP. That's why I got it there
but do a search on the net and you can find them all over. Ebay also has
them for some decent prices. Good luck

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Marc said:

I recently purchased the XP and love it. Great fit, very comfortable and
provides good visibility. I have the amber lenses and they work equally
well in dark or bright conditions. My eyes are real sensitive in the

bright

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light without sunglasses but when I use the amber XPs there is no

problem.

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As well, I have not had any problems with them when doing flip turns.

They

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have held tight. After many years of competitve swimming I decided to

try

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the XP and not use goggles. If I was competing where a dive entry and

hydro

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dynamics came into play, I would still use goggles. But for tri swims or
open water training, the XP is the way to go.

Thanks Marc!

Did you mail order yours?

Do you have a good mail order source for swim gear? I
live in a small town with no retail source locally....
have to mail order.

Marc said:

I got mine at Performace Bike. Here is the direct link:
http://www.performancebike.com/shop/profile.cfm?sku=20174

Thanks

I'm also looking to mail order a Finis snorkel. Looks
like Performance doesn't carry that tho.