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  1. Well, you have to have been there. The Prologue was a mostly spectacular
    downhill ride from the top of the corkscrew to the finish line. About 3
    km or so. Average speeds were over 30 mph and the winning speed was
    something like 38 mph. The men pack filler were as fast as the fastest
    women. Horner was about 5 seconds back.

    The circuit race yesterday was a long breakaway that the Webcor guys
    held at 2 minutes and then slowly pulled back to 40 seconds by the end.
    Horner was in the peloton and his some 45 second deficit wasn't looking
    all that great. He also wasn't looking very strong.

    Today Health Net was on the attack to take the winner's jersey. The 100
    mile road race left at 10:30 or so and got back into the Laguna Seca
    track for an additional 3 laps on the circuit. On the way up the hill
    onto the track Horner EXPLODED away from the pack. He pulled out a 20
    second advantage as he hit the line for the first of three laps.
    Healthnet's Jones started after him and was obviously the only one in
    the peloton capable of mounting any efforts at all.

    All to naught though as Horner extended his lead to about a minute at
    the finish line to win the second biggest stage race in California with
    no one in sight.

    Sea Otter was the usual combination of great venue, hundreds of racers
    and moronic management. Monterey County apparently complained last year
    because of the stoppage of traffic due to Laguna Seca emptying (as if
    that doesn't happen regularly with the car races) so instead of simply
    suggesting that Monterey County install a traffic light at the exit like
    they feel not the slightest compunction to do in front of a shopping
    center, Sea Otter staff instead routed traffic in a 8.5 mile roundabout
    route. Pro team cars were taking over an hour to get off of the facility
    yesterday. Somehow Sea Otter hasn't managed to figure out how to get
    play-by-play from the elite road race so the Pro's left at 10:30 and we
    had about one comment about it until Horner broke onto the reservation.

    It is really frustrating that a race as important as Sea Otter and with
    such great facilities manages to year after year insult virtually every
    class of racer they can. It would be nice if there was at least a
    modicum of professionalism amoung them but after 5 years of attendance
    I've come to realize that we aren't going to see it and so Sea Otter
    will always be second rate if they carry on at all with the Tour of
    Georgia coming three days after the end of the elite races at Sea Otter.
    Because of UCSF's great timing Healthnet only showed 6 riders and this
    definitely showed in the results despite some great performances by
    individual members.

    Also, no one seemed to know where the press tent was nor had any idea of
    how to get the finishing results for each race. "Duhhh, they'll post it
    on the internet" - yeah, like last year, within the next three months.

  2. In article <[email hidden]>, Tom Kunich <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Sea Otter was the usual combination of great venue, hundreds of racers
    and moronic management. Monterey County apparently complained last year
    because of the stoppage of traffic due to Laguna Seca emptying (as if
    that doesn't happen regularly with the car races) so instead of simply
    suggesting that Monterey County install a traffic light at the exit like
    they feel not the slightest compunction to do in front of a shopping
    center, Sea Otter staff instead routed traffic in a 8.5 mile roundabout
    route.

    It's never a quick trip out of Laguna. I can't imagine there were more
    spectators there for the SO than the motorcycle races (WSB in particular),
    but it still had to be slow. I think it depends on where you park as to
    where you get sent out. But where you park seems to depend on where you
    entered the reserve. I've been sent out the way you described a few times
    and it still seemed to be much faster than when I went out the front
    entrance (in spite of that being roughly 15% the length of the back way).
    The hold up there is the turn onto the highway (or actually the people
    making a left turn onto it - because it's one lane down to that point,
    they'd hold up the people who wanted to turn right).

    At least it sounds like the races you saw were good, though.

    --
    tanx,
    Howard

    Q: Can we call it a quagmire yet?

    remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

  3. We opened our booth at 8am and left just after 5pm each day. There really
    was not a terrible traffic problem leaving from the marketplace area where
    we were. On 68 there was a small amount of congestion on the way back to
    Salinas where we stayed, but nothing that was nearly as unpleasant as the
    610 Loop and 59 at 5pm in Houston. Now that's traffic!

    Bruce

    "Howard Kveck" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, Tom Kunich <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Sea Otter was the usual combination of great venue, hundreds of racers
    and moronic management. Monterey County apparently complained last year
    because of the stoppage of traffic due to Laguna Seca emptying (as if
    that doesn't happen regularly with the car races) so instead of simply
    suggesting that Monterey County install a traffic light at the exit like
    they feel not the slightest compunction to do in front of a shopping
    center, Sea Otter staff instead routed traffic in a 8.5 mile roundabout
    route.

    It's never a quick trip out of Laguna. I can't imagine there were more
    spectators there for the SO than the motorcycle races (WSB in particular),
    but it still had to be slow. I think it depends on where you park as to
    where you get sent out. But where you park seems to depend on where you
    entered the reserve. I've been sent out the way you described a few times
    and it still seemed to be much faster than when I went out the front
    entrance (in spite of that being roughly 15% the length of the back way).
    The hold up there is the turn onto the highway (or actually the people
    making a left turn onto it - because it's one lane down to that point,
    they'd hold up the people who wanted to turn right).

    At least it sounds like the races you saw were good, though.

    --
    tanx,
    Howard

    Q: Can we call it a quagmire yet?

    remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

  4. "Bruce Gilbert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    We opened our booth at 8am and left just after 5pm each day. There really
    was not a terrible traffic problem leaving from the marketplace area where
    we were. On 68 there was a small amount of congestion on the way back to
    Salinas where we stayed, but nothing that was nearly as unpleasant as the
    610 Loop and 59 at 5pm in Houston. Now that's traffic!

    On Friday, South Boundary Road was stopped up ALL the way onto the preserve
    and you could see cars stopped on that 16% grade right next to the main
    entrance. One of the team cars told me that they took a hour to get back
    onto 68 where everything did flow pretty smoothly.

    I left directly after the circuit race without waiting for the ceremony. By
    the time I got onto 68 near Monterey and turned back towards Salinas the
    Health Net squad was riding by in the other direction having already gotten
    the awards ceremony done with, taken the main entrance exit and riding down
    the four miles to where I had finally gotten.

    Note: Health Net had an abreviated squad this year. Ofoto wasn't even there.
    Jittery Joes wasn't there. Colavita (major loss here) wasn't there. Jelly
    Belly wasn't there. It seems like more people than I are thinking that Sea
    Otter is treating their main customers in a shoddy manner.

    What do you want to bet that these missing teams will all be at the SFGP?

  5. On 04/20/2004 10:35 PM, in article
    [email hidden], "Tom Kunich"

    Quoted message said:

    Note: Health Net had an abreviated squad this year. Ofoto wasn't even there.
    Jittery Joes wasn't there. Colavita (major loss here) wasn't there. Jelly
    Belly wasn't there. It seems like more people than I are thinking that Sea
    Otter is treating their main customers in a shoddy manner.

    What do you want to bet that these missing teams will all be at the SFGP?

    What do you want to be that all of those teams are at the Dodge Tour de
    Georgia, and didn't want to deal with the logistical nightmare of getting
    their teams, their team cars/vans, and all their equipment cross-country in
    48 hours?

    --
    Steven L. Sheffield
    stevens at veloworks dot com
    veloworks at worldnet dot ay tea tee dot net
    bellum pax est libertas servitus est ignoratio vis est
    ess ay ell tea ell ay kay ee sea aye tee why you ti ay aitch
    aitch tee tea pea colon [for word] slash [four ward] slash double-you
    double-yew double-ewe dot veloworks dot com [four word] slash

  6. On 04/21/2004 04:26 AM, in article [email hidden],

    Steven L. Sheffield said:

    On 04/20/2004 10:35 PM, in article
    [email hidden], "Tom Kunich"

    Quoted message said:

    Note: Health Net had an abreviated squad this year. Ofoto wasn't even there.
    Jittery Joes wasn't there. Colavita (major loss here) wasn't there. Jelly
    Belly wasn't there. It seems like more people than I are thinking that Sea
    Otter is treating their main customers in a shoddy manner.

    What do you want to bet that these missing teams will all be at the SFGP?

    What do you want to be that all of those teams are at the Dodge Tour de
    Georgia, and didn't want to deal with the logistical nightmare of getting
    their teams, their team cars/vans, and all their equipment cross-country in
    48 hours?

    In fact, I'll even provide a couple cites, which you seem to refuse to do:

    From http://www.velonews.com/race/race.php?id=1070&section=2

    [the] lure of Georgia will keep the Colavita Olive Oil, Navigators and Ofoto
    squads away from Sea Otter altogether. In their absence, Northern
    California-based squads like Health Net-Maxxis and Sierra Nevada will mark
    Sea Otter as an opportunity to snag wins on home soil.

    From http://velonews.com/news/fea/5888.0.html

    [with] the Tour de Georgia starting just three days after Sea Otter
    finishes, many teams felt it would be logistically too difficult to haul
    team cars and equipment all the way from California in time for the TdG
    start in Macon. So, no Euros, no Postal, no Navs ... but Team Lucky Lounge
    does get to step up to the plate in Monterey.

    --
    Steven L. Sheffield
    stevens at veloworks dot com
    veloworks at worldnet dot ay tea tee dot net
    bellum pax est libertas servitus est ignoratio vis est
    ess ay ell tea ell ay kay ee sea aye tee why you ti ay aitch
    aitch tee tea pea colon [for word] slash [four ward] slash double-you
    double-yew double-ewe dot veloworks dot com [four word] slash

  7. "Steven L. Sheffield" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    What do you want to be that all of those teams are at the Dodge Tour de
    Georgia, and didn't want to deal with the logistical nightmare of


    getting

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    their teams, their team cars/vans, and all their equipment cross-country


    in

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    48 hours?

    In fact, I'll even provide a couple cites, which you seem to refuse to do:

    From http://www.velonews.com/race/race.php?id=1070&section=2

    [the] lure of Georgia will keep the Colavita Olive Oil, Navigators and


    Ofoto

    Quoted message said:

    squads away from Sea Otter altogether. In their absence, Northern
    California-based squads like Health Net-Maxxis and Sierra Nevada will mark
    Sea Otter as an opportunity to snag wins on home soil.

    Yeah, you'll have to explain that to Chris Horner and Gordon Fraser. They
    too apparently felt it unnecessary to ride a good training race before TdG.

    Isn't this what I was just talking about? You guys seem to have no minds of
    your own and quote people who think that the guy who wins bicycle races is
    the guy on the front of the peloton.

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