screw thread gas in pyrenees

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Hi, new to all this foreign walking mullarky! Wifey and I are looking to go to pyrenees andorra
etc in early july flying into perpignan than bus or train into the mountains etc. When we get
there how available are the screw thread gas cannisters?

I've no idea about the pyrennees, but a tip from elsewhere ... they might be much easier to find in
an ironmongers than a camping shop if they're not considered standard camping equipment there,

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I don't want to miss out on a cooked breakfast in the morning or spend all day looking for
the stuff!

It took me a little while to figure out the above tip when I needed it ...

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I don't want to miss out on a cooked breakfast in the morning or spend all day looking for
the stuff!

It took me a little while to figure out the above tip when I needed it ...

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Nick Kew

A solution to the problem, which I hit upon by accident was to get a MSR gas stove. It fits both
resealable types and is invaluble in France - never saw a screw thread there last summer.

Richard Webb

On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 23:49:17 GMT, [email hidden] (RJ

Webb) said:

A solution to the problem, which I hit upon by accident was to get a MSR gas stove.

I assume you are referring to the MSR SuperFly? The PocketRocket for example only takes the screw-on
cannisters.

Regards Andrew

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The puncture type cannisters are pretty easy to find, but I have to say I don't recall seeing any of
the screw type ones in the Pyrenees. I just looked at the Decathlon (French outdoor shops) web site
and they carry both types. So it would seem they are around over there....

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A solution to the problem, which I hit upon by accident was to get a MSR gas stove.

I assume you are referring to the MSR SuperFly? The PocketRocket for example only takes the screw-
on cannisters.

Regards Andrew

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nigel said:

Hi, new to all this foreign walking mullarky! Wifey and I are looking to go to pyrenees andorra
etc in early july flying into perpignan than bus or train into the mountains etc. When we get
there how available are the screw thread gas cannisters?

If/when you find out then I'd be grateful to know the answer too.

The simplest solution may be just to leave off buying the stove till you're out there and get
whatever's available in the local shops ? I believe the original camping-gaz threadless cylinders
are most commonly available in France but last time I was there I stupidly forgot to notice whether
threaded ones are available as well :-(

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Boo

For much of the time you will find that you can only find Camping Gas cartridges. Staying at the
campsite at Lescun we found we were with three other individuals, or couples, from the UK who were
really stuffed because they had been led to believe they could get other gas canister types! Another
problem was that, at the height of the season, the local shops actually ran very low on stock. These
folks could only heat water - or cook
- by borrowing my gas which, while I was happy to oblige, could have presented me with
problems later on

You could use the MSR Superfly. You could - as I did last year - take a small Camping Gas Stove but
these are not particularly stable. And I did notice (and experience) a number of failures of
cartidges.

All of this was worrying enough to make me adopt a better and more secure system. I bought an MSR
Dragonfly which I which I will now carry with a large bottle containing Coleman Gas or Diesel if
only that is available. Some places are great bases for supplies, like Cauterets, but to use other
wonderful locations, such as Lescun, you are wise to stock up in lower towns before you go higher.

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Hi, new to all this foreign walking mullarky! Wifey and I are looking to go to pyrenees andorra
etc in early july flying into perpignan than bus or train into the mountains etc. When we get
there how available are the screw thread gas cannisters? I don't want to miss out on a cooked
breakfast in the morning or spend all day looking for the stuff!

thanks for all the help and suggestions, looks like best bet is to buy a petrol fuelled stove of
some sort but I don't think she would approve as she recently bought me a snow peak gigapower gas
stove for my birthday! We'll just have to get an early flight into Barcelona then bus into Andorra
la Vella. I'm sure that We'll be able to pick some up there before heading into the mountains (if
not I'll buy a petrol stove while we're there!)

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Hi, new to all this foreign walking mullarky! Wifey and I are

looking

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to go to pyrenees andorra etc in early july flying into perpignan

than

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bus or train into the mountains etc. When we get there how available are the screw thread gas
cannisters? I don't want to miss out on a cooked breakfast in the morning or spend all day
looking for the stuff!

thanks for all the help and suggestions, looks like best bet is to buy a petrol fuelled stove of
some sort but I don't think she would approve as she recently bought me a snow peak gigapower gas
stove for my birthday! We'll just have to get an early flight into Barcelona then bus into Andorra
la Vella. I'm sure that We'll be able to pick some up there before heading into the mountains (if
not I'll buy a petrol stove while we're there!)

Sorry to come late to this thread, but didn't someone (GoGas??) make an adapter that took the
Camping Gaz Bleuet 90g cartridges and added a screw top with a valve? Or did I dream that?

I don't have a screw thread stove, but it seems like the above would be a useful gadget to have
since the Bleuet canister is the one kind that you can get nearly everywhere.
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Hi, new to all this foreign walking mullarky! Wifey and I are

looking

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to go to pyrenees andorra etc in early july flying into perpignan

than

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bus or train into the mountains etc. When we get there how available are the screw thread gas
cannisters? I don't want to miss out on a cooked breakfast in the morning or spend all day
looking for the stuff!

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Sorry to come late to this thread, but didn't someone (GoGas??) make an adapter that took the
Camping Gaz Bleuet 90g cartridges and added a screw top with a valve? Or did I dream that?

Yes they do. I did a brief look at some on-line stores to find a pic but drew a blank. It is listed
on the Cotswold site but no picture.

However I have just found this pnpages.comgas.pdfOpen ↗

Which shows the beast in question on page 3.

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I don't have a screw thread stove, but it seems like the above would be a useful gadget to have
since the Bleuet canister is the one kind that you can get nearly everywhere.

Except where all you can get is the screw thread type. I't's sod's law that you will be able to find
the one you don't want. :-)
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Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

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> Hi, new to all this foreign walking mullarky! Wifey and I are

looking

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> to go to pyrenees andorra etc in early july flying into perpignan

than

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> bus or train into the mountains etc. When we get there how

available

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> are the screw thread gas cannisters? I don't want to miss out on

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> cooked breakfast in the morning or spend all day looking for the stuff!

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Sorry to come late to this thread, but didn't someone (GoGas??) make

an

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adapter that took the Camping Gaz Bleuet 90g cartridges and added a screw top with a valve? Or
did I dream that?

Yes they do. I did a brief look at some on-line stores to find a pic but drew a blank. It is
listed on the Cotswold site but no picture.

It might have been the Cotswold catalogue I saw it in. That would have been years ago though.

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However I have just found this pnpages.comgas.pdfOpen ↗

Which shows the beast in question on page 3.

You are a tougher googler than I am. All I could find out is that GoGas appears to have been
acquired by Cadac who then appear to have changed their name to Elancor.

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I don't have a screw thread stove, but it seems like the above would

be

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a useful gadget to have since the Bleuet canister is the one kind

that

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you can get nearly everywhere.

Except where all you can get is the screw thread type. I't's sod's law that you will be able to
find the one you don't want. :-)

If all you can find is the threaded cartridges then you use them without the adapter.

However, I repeat that the threadless 190g cartridges are available almost everywhere according to
the Camping Gaz website.

If you use the threadless resealing canisters made by Camping Gaz, a useful tip in continental
Europe is that they can be easier to find in the supermarkets than in the outdoor shops.

But I agree that Mr Sod has a lot to answer for.

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Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

If I look north from where I'm sitting as I write this, I can see the snow gleaming on the Jura :-)
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Sorry to come late to this thread, but didn't someone (GoGas??) make an adapter that took the
Camping Gaz Bleuet 90g cartridges and added a screw top with a valve? Or did I dream that?

I don't have a screw thread stove, but it seems like the above would be a useful gadget to have
since the Bleuet canister is the one kind that you can get nearly everywhere.
--
Mark South: Citizen of the World, Denizen of the Net

There is also an adapter from Markill, available from German sources. Do a Google search for Markill
adapter. The Markill has an automatic self-sealing valve. If I recall correctly, the GoGas does not
seal automatically.

The Markill is most suitable for stoves with a flexible hose connector.

[I believe both these devices fit 190 g Bleuet-type cartridges.]

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Alan Law

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Sorry to come late to this thread, but didn't someone (GoGas??) make an adapter that took the
Camping Gaz Bleuet 90g cartridges and added a screw top with a valve? Or did I dream that?

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I don't have a screw thread stove, but it seems like the above would be a useful gadget to have
since the Bleuet canister is the one kind that you can get nearly everywhere.
--
Mark South: Citizen of the World, Denizen of the Net

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There is also an adapter from Markill, available from German sources. Do a Google search for
Markill adapter. The Markill has an automatic self-sealing valve. If I recall correctly, the GoGas
does not seal automatically.

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The Markill is most suitable for stoves with a flexible hose connector.

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[I believe both these devices fit 190 g Bleuet-type cartridges.]

So if you had a converter from pierce-able Camping Gaz canisters to threaded, and one of those MSR
gas stoves that takes different sealable canisters, you could use *any* gas bottle?

Apart from shop stock limited supplies, I'm remembering times when I've had to refuse the offer of
part empty bottles by departing campers.

These days "any gas bottle" seems to make more sense in adaptability than "any liquid fuel".

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Sorry to come late to this thread, but didn't someone (GoGas??)

make an

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adapter that took the Camping Gaz Bleuet 90g cartridges and added a screw top with a valve? Or
did I dream that?

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I don't have a screw thread stove, but it seems like the above

would be

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a useful gadget to have since the Bleuet canister is the one kind

that

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you can get nearly everywhere.
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Mark South: Citizen of the World, Denizen of the Net

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There is also an adapter from Markill, available from German sources.

Do a

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Google search for Markill adapter. The Markill has an automatic

self-sealing

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valve. If I recall correctly, the GoGas does not seal automatically.

Thanks for that. I've never actually seen either of them in the flesh. Although I wasn't the one who
asked the original question, and am not in the market for one presently.

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The Markill is most suitable for stoves with a flexible hose

connector.

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[I believe both these devices fit 190 g Bleuet-type cartridges.]

These are ISO standard, vide the Cadac bulk cartridges mentioned earlier.

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So if you had a converter from pierce-able Camping Gaz canisters to threaded, and one of those MSR
gas stoves that takes different sealable canisters, you could use *any* gas bottle?

That's the advantage as it appears to me.

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Apart from shop stock limited supplies, I'm remembering times when I've had to refuse the offer of
part empty bottles by departing campers.

I recently moved. Had to leave a bulk buy (8 remaining) of CV470 cartridges behind :-(

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These days "any gas bottle" seems to make more sense in adaptability than "any liquid fuel".

It's hard to beat for convenience.
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