Scottish weather part two

"David Martin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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OK, So I was a bit fed up with the rain.

All is forgiven. The rain has abated and I went out on the bike this

evening

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to enjoy the sunset.

As I do not intend to retract my claim that it is not raining in Scotland,
here are a few JPEG's (well, PNGs).

http://www.compbio.dundee.ac.uk/~dmamartin/sunset.html

1+3 are best IMO.

Isn't JPEG a more suitable format for photos?

cheers,
clive

On 21/8/04 1:03 am, in article [email hidden], "Clive

George said:

"David Martin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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OK, So I was a bit fed up with the rain.

All is forgiven. The rain has abated and I went out on the bike this

evening

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to enjoy the sunset.

As I do not intend to retract my claim that it is not raining in Scotland,
here are a few JPEG's (well, PNGs).

http://www.compbio.dundee.ac.uk/~dmamartin/sunset.html

1+3 are best IMO.

I quite like the composition in #2. I do like pictures a bit darker than
many people.
#3 doesn't seem to be as focussed as it should be. (something to do with
balancing on a railing in the middle of the Tay Road Bridge with
juggernaughts roaring past.

They were taken at three different locations about 5-10 minutes hard pelt
apart. For #1 I actually had my feet in the water (I'd taken the medium
format camera and tripod with me. To get the shot I wanted meant standing in
about 3 inches of water on the slipway. I hope my shoes have dried out by
tomorrow!)

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Isn't JPEG a more suitable format for photos?

Depends on the degree of compression. PNG is lossless wheras JPG can add
artefacts if high compression is used.

PNG is a safer bet. The originals are JPEG 1600x1200

I hope you enjoyed them and it adds a ray of sunshine to peoples browsing.

...d

"David Martin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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As I do not intend to retract my claim that it is not raining in

Scotland,

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here are a few JPEG's (well, PNGs).

http://www.compbio.dundee.ac.uk/~dmamartin/sunset.html

1+3 are best IMO.

I quite like the composition in #2. I do like pictures a bit darker than
many people.

Mmm. I know I've taken similar photos in the past, and they've always been a
disappointment to me.

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#3 doesn't seem to be as focussed as it should be. (something to do with
balancing on a railing in the middle of the Tay Road Bridge with
juggernaughts roaring past.

I liked its ethereal quality - possibly being slightly out of focus would a
good thing here.

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They were taken at three different locations about 5-10 minutes hard pelt
apart. For #1 I actually had my feet in the water (I'd taken the medium
format camera and tripod with me. To get the shot I wanted meant standing

in

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about 3 inches of water on the slipway. I hope my shoes have dried out by
tomorrow!)

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Isn't JPEG a more suitable format for photos?

Depends on the degree of compression. PNG is lossless wheras JPG can add
artefacts if high compression is used.

PNG is a safer bet. The originals are JPEG 1600x1200

For web publishing, I don't think the lossy nature is really an issue. I
tried one of your shots - it was about 150k vs 600k with hardly any
compression (5% in PSP).

cheers,
clive

On 21/8/04 1:45 am, in article [email hidden], "Clive

George said:

"David Martin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I quite like the composition in #2. I do like pictures a bit darker than
many people.

Mmm. I know I've taken similar photos in the past, and they've always been a
disappointment to me.

I think the trick is to get the light just right (which I haven't here) and
to blow it up really big so you can lose yourself in it.

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#3 doesn't seem to be as focussed as it should be. (something to do with
balancing on a railing in the middle of the Tay Road Bridge with
juggernaughts roaring past.

I liked its ethereal quality - possibly being slightly out of focus would a
good thing here.

Dawn looking the other way is very nice, very ethereal. I'll wait a few
months till it comes round at a sensible time.

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Isn't JPEG a more suitable format for photos?

Depends on the degree of compression. PNG is lossless wheras JPG can add
artefacts if high compression is used.

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For web publishing, I don't think the lossy nature is really an issue. I
tried one of your shots - it was about 150k vs 600k with hardly any
compression (5% in PSP).

OK, I've changed them to jpg and added a couple more from last weekend. That
makes download much quicker.

The two night shots are both around 4sec exposure! That's why the seaweed
floating in the water is a bit fuzzy.

I'm tempted to etch horizontal and vertical lines onto the LCD so I actually
get the pictures level ;-(

...d

David Martin said:

They were taken at three different locations about 5-10 minutes hard pelt
apart. For #1 I actually had my feet in the water (I'd taken the medium
format camera and tripod with me. To get the shot I wanted meant standing in
about 3 inches of water on the slipway. I hope my shoes have dried out by
tomorrow!)

They're sloping (at least, several of them clearly are)! Very pretty
other than that, though.

James
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If I have seen further than others, it is
by treading on the toes of giants.
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/julesandjames/home/

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I'm tempted to etch horizontal and vertical lines onto the LCD so I actually
get the pictures level ;-(

Jessops sell a little spirit level that slips into a hotshoe. Or you can stick
it on with double sided tape.
--
Mark South, Super Genius: World Citizen, Net Denizen

Mark South said:

"David Martin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I'm tempted to etch horizontal and vertical lines onto the LCD so I actually
get the pictures level ;-(

Jessops sell a little spirit level that slips into a hotshoe. Or you can
stick
it on with double sided tape.

Not quite that simple.. I know some of them are sloping but it is very hard
to get the level when it is dark and you are having to hold the camera up
high. No real excuse for not playing with photoshop or similar except sheer
laziness..

One also has to find a part of the camera which is suitable to attach it to.

But it was a nice sunset.

...d