Scott G-Zero FX 2005

Steve said:

Hi,
Can anyone tell me if they have one and what they think of it?
I'm thinking of buying one as it looks good.

Cheers,

Steve

My Sh!t looked kind of cool tonight. Should I eat it?

If you are going to buy a bike because it "looks" good, then I'll sell
you a flashy bling painted huffy for $3000. Why don't you try it out
and see if it is a good ride? Why don't you compare it to similar
setups from other manufacturers?

--
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www.schnauzers.ws

The specs looks good. I wanted to hear from people who own one to gauge
value for money etc. Re. eating your [censored]: give it a go, it might improve
your breath.
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Steve said:

Hi,
Can anyone tell me if they have one and what they think of it?
I'm thinking of buying one as it looks good.

Cheers,

Steve

My Sh!t looked kind of cool tonight. Should I eat it?

If you are going to buy a bike because it "looks" good, then I'll sell you
a flashy bling painted huffy for $3000. Why don't you try it out and see
if it is a good ride? Why don't you compare it to similar setups from
other manufacturers?

--
o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
www.schnauzers.ws

Quoted message said:

If you are going to buy a bike because it "looks" good, then I'll sell you
a flashy bling painted huffy for $3000.

Does it come with a banana seat??

:-)~

TBF::. said:

Quoted message said:

If you are going to buy a bike because it "looks" good, then I'll sell you
a flashy bling painted huffy for $3000.

Does it come with a banana seat??

:-)~

I'll sell you whatever dimestore [censored] you want on it for $3000.

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www.schnauzers.ws

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Steve said:

Hi,
Can anyone tell me if they have one and what they think of it?
I'm thinking of buying one as it looks good.

Cheers,

Steve

My Sh!t looked kind of cool tonight. Should I eat it?

If you are going to buy a bike because it "looks" good, then I'll sell you
a flashy bling painted huffy for $3000. Why don't you try it out and see
if it is a good ride? Why don't you compare it to similar setups from
other manufacturers?

--
o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
www.schnauzers.ws

Steve said:

The specs looks good. I wanted to hear from people who own one to gauge
value for money etc. Re. eating your [censored]: give it a go, it might

improve

Quoted message said:

your breath.

I moved your top post down here. Good comeback. I knew what you meant,
but I couldn't resist the open line for the reply. It's all good, mate.

--
o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
www.schnauzers.ws

Steve said:

Hi,
Can anyone tell me if they have one and what they think of it?
I'm thinking of buying one as it looks good.

Cheers,

Steve

Putting it in ten words or less: What style riding do you do? What's
your budget?

There are thousands of bikes out there that "look" good. IIRC, the
Scott G-Zero is a "good" bike - but others may suit your purpose better.
Heck, others may "fit" you better - which can make ALL the difference.

The best thing that you can do is a little research of your own. Ride
said bike, ride other bikes, compare it to others in the same price
range, listen to what the sales guy says (but not too closely), try to
glean some information from here and other places on the internet.

Compare the components, read the reviews, shop around for a better
price. When you find something more specific that you can't answer eg.
Whats the difference between Shimano LX and XT components? Is this bike
good for dropping off 30 foot drops? Will it make me stronger, faster
and sexier? then try asking here. We'll be happy to help.
--
Westie
(There are times when faster isn't better...)

Thanks.
My riding consists mainly of off-road trails, but nothing too challenging
(mostly flat dirt). Not really any commuting. I'm undecided about the need
for rear suspension as I don't want the bike to bounce around too much (I'm
6 foot 4 and 20stone). I tried a hard-tail (Kona), but that bounced around
a bit too much on the front too. I think I'd like a bike with full
suspension but with the ability to really stiffen it up. The guy in the
shop said I could get a stiffer rear spring for the Scott G-Zero FX.

Cheers,

Steve
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Steve said:

Hi,
Can anyone tell me if they have one and what they think of it?
I'm thinking of buying one as it looks good.

Cheers,

Steve

Putting it in ten words or less: What style riding do you do? What's your
budget?

There are thousands of bikes out there that "look" good. IIRC, the Scott
G-Zero is a "good" bike - but others may suit your purpose better. Heck,
others may "fit" you better - which can make ALL the difference.

The best thing that you can do is a little research of your own. Ride
said bike, ride other bikes, compare it to others in the same price range,
listen to what the sales guy says (but not too closely), try to glean some
information from here and other places on the internet.

Compare the components, read the reviews, shop around for a better price.
When you find something more specific that you can't answer eg. Whats the
difference between Shimano LX and XT components? Is this bike good for
dropping off 30 foot drops? Will it make me stronger, faster and sexier?
then try asking here. We'll be happy to help.
--
Westie
(There are times when faster isn't better...)

Steve said:

Thanks.
My riding consists mainly of off-road trails, but nothing too
challenging (mostly flat dirt). Not really any commuting. I'm
undecided about the need for rear suspension as I don't want the bike
to bounce around too much (I'm 6 foot 4 and 20stone). I tried a
hard-tail (Kona), but that bounced around a bit too much on the front
too. I think I'd like a bike with full suspension but with the
ability to really stiffen it up. The guy in the shop said I could
get a stiffer rear spring for the Scott G-Zero FX.

What you've said indicates that a hardtail is what you should be looking
for. The G-Zero has too much travel for the riding you'll be doing. The
bike shop guy is trying to sell you a bike you'll be lugging up any hills.

--
Phil, Squid-in-Training

Steve said:

Thanks.
My riding consists mainly of off-road trails, but nothing too challenging
(mostly flat dirt). Not really any commuting. I'm undecided about the need
for rear suspension as I don't want the bike to bounce around too much (I'm
6 foot 4 and 20stone). I tried a hard-tail (Kona), but that bounced around
a bit too much on the front too. I think I'd like a bike with full
suspension but with the ability to really stiffen it up. The guy in the
shop said I could get a stiffer rear spring for the Scott G-Zero FX.

Cheers,

Steve

Unfortunately you'll come to discover that most bikes are made for
teenie-tiny little people with long legs and no torso that weigh
wayyyyyyy less than 200 pounds. I'm a metric boy so tell me if I'm
wrong, but 20 stone is about 280 pounds. You're going to need a bike
that can handle the weight. This pretty much means that you want to
avoid a full suspension bike (there are a number of reasons for this
that I won't get in to) if you want it and it's components to last. So
that means that you're looking at front-only suspension. Now, I'm not
sure what the budget is, but you are going to get a lot more bike for
your money if you get a hardtail (front suspension only). Obviously
you're not paying for rear suspension. Off the top of my head the only
one that comes to mind that is specifically designed for heavier guys is
the Kona Hoss but I know that there are others. You're looking for
heavier duty components - heavier frame, strong cranks etc.

A hardtail will be perfectly suitable for the style of riding that you
will be doing. Many would say that a full-susser is a waste of money
and energy for that type of trail. Full-sussers are nice but have their
disadvantages too. Not the least of which is cost versus benefit. And
honestly you aren't riding trails that NEED full suspension (not that
any trail NEEDS full suspension).

Finally, if you can handle the idea that you are NOT looking at a flash
has-all-the-bells-and-whistles full suspension bike, you are looking for
something that has a GOOD front suspension fork. You will probably
want coil rather than air and you want something that can have the
spring changed to adjust for your weight. You don't want the fork to
bottom-out all the time. Finally stay away from "XC" bikes. You
probably want something that is more "all terrain" or "all mountain".
Generally they are a bit more heavy duty than the lightweight XC bikes.
Make sure that the wheelset (the rims, spokes and hubs) are suitable for
a bigger guy too - if they're lightweight XC wheels they'll die fast.

That's all that I can handle typing at the moment. I'm sure that the
others here in the group can suggest some more things that you should be
considering. Or even suggest some bikes.
--
Westie

Thanks Phil, I'm going off the G-Zero! 🙂
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Steve said:

Thanks.
My riding consists mainly of off-road trails, but nothing too
challenging (mostly flat dirt). Not really any commuting. I'm
undecided about the need for rear suspension as I don't want the bike
to bounce around too much (I'm 6 foot 4 and 20stone). I tried a
hard-tail (Kona), but that bounced around a bit too much on the front
too. I think I'd like a bike with full suspension but with the
ability to really stiffen it up. The guy in the shop said I could
get a stiffer rear spring for the Scott G-Zero FX.

What you've said indicates that a hardtail is what you should be looking
for. The G-Zero has too much travel for the riding you'll be doing. The
bike shop guy is trying to sell you a bike you'll be lugging up any hills.

--
Phil, Squid-in-Training

Many thanks for your detailed and informative reply, it is much appreciated.
From what I've heard, I'm definitely not going for dual suspension.
I've found the following hard-tail on e-bay:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7182872946&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

This looks great and the front suspension sounds like it can be stiffened up
quite a bit. I'd be grateful for your opinion (or anyone's opinion) on this
bike.

Many thanks again Westie,

Steve

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Steve said:

Thanks.
My riding consists mainly of off-road trails, but nothing too challenging
(mostly flat dirt). Not really any commuting. I'm undecided about the
need for rear suspension as I don't want the bike to bounce around too
much (I'm 6 foot 4 and 20stone). I tried a hard-tail (Kona), but that
bounced around a bit too much on the front too. I think I'd like a bike
with full suspension but with the ability to really stiffen it up. The
guy in the shop said I could get a stiffer rear spring for the Scott
G-Zero FX.

Cheers,

Steve

Unfortunately you'll come to discover that most bikes are made for
teenie-tiny little people with long legs and no torso that weigh wayyyyyyy
less than 200 pounds. I'm a metric boy so tell me if I'm wrong, but 20
stone is about 280 pounds. You're going to need a bike that can handle
the weight. This pretty much means that you want to avoid a full
suspension bike (there are a number of reasons for this that I won't get
in to) if you want it and it's components to last. So that means that
you're looking at front-only suspension. Now, I'm not sure what the
budget is, but you are going to get a lot more bike for your money if you
get a hardtail (front suspension only). Obviously you're not paying for
rear suspension. Off the top of my head the only one that comes to mind
that is specifically designed for heavier guys is the Kona Hoss but I know
that there are others. You're looking for heavier duty components -
heavier frame, strong cranks etc.

A hardtail will be perfectly suitable for the style of riding that you
will be doing. Many would say that a full-susser is a waste of money and
energy for that type of trail. Full-sussers are nice but have their
disadvantages too. Not the least of which is cost versus benefit. And
honestly you aren't riding trails that NEED full suspension (not that any
trail NEEDS full suspension).

Finally, if you can handle the idea that you are NOT looking at a flash
has-all-the-bells-and-whistles full suspension bike, you are looking for
something that has a GOOD front suspension fork. You will probably want
coil rather than air and you want something that can have the spring
changed to adjust for your weight. You don't want the fork to bottom-out
all the time. Finally stay away from "XC" bikes. You probably want
something that is more "all terrain" or "all mountain". Generally they are
a bit more heavy duty than the lightweight XC bikes.
Make sure that the wheelset (the rims, spokes and hubs) are suitable for a
bigger guy too - if they're lightweight XC wheels they'll die fast.

That's all that I can handle typing at the moment. I'm sure that the
others here in the group can suggest some more things that you should be
considering. Or even suggest some bikes.
--
Westie

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I've found the following hard-tail on e-bay:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7182872946&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

This looks great and the front suspension sounds like it can be stiffened
up quite a bit. I'd be grateful for your opinion (or anyone's opinion) on
this bike.

You're a big guy. Run like heck from anything with "maxlight", "ultralight"
or "XC race" associated with it. A couple of years ago we were "rehydrating"
after an evening ride when 2 guys your size came ripping into the parking
lot. Seeing an audience, one locked up his rear wheel trying to spin around
in a skid. The rear wheel immediately folded in half and dumped him right
over!

If you're going to buy off Ebay be sure you're confident about the bike
geometry. The description lists "horizontal reach 23 inches". If he's
referring to effective top tube length, it sounds on the short side for
someone 6' 4" tall.

I'd say keep shopping, don't buy something you can't test ride, look for
adjectives like "beefy", "bombproof" etc., and make sure the wheels are
especially stout!

Dave D

Steve said:

Many thanks for your detailed and informative reply, it is much appreciated.
From what I've heard, I'm definitely not going for dual suspension.
I've found the following hard-tail on e-bay:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7182872946&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

This looks great and the front suspension sounds like it can be stiffened up
quite a bit. I'd be grateful for your opinion (or anyone's opinion) on this
bike.

Many thanks again Westie,

Steve

Dave gave some good advice. Remember that you are almost twice the
weight of some of the guys that these bikes are designed for (I'm a bit
over 200 so I can relate too). Maxlight etc equals a quick and probably
painful death for you. Wheels will fold, cranks will shatter and frames
will snap at welds and stress points.

The SID forks are lightweight too. They are air sprung. This means
that they use air compression as the spring. They do not use a metal
coil. You want forks that use a metal coil if you want a decent life
out of your forks. Because of your weight you will blow a seal
(remember that old joke?) very quickly if you use air sprung forks.

Other than that, yeah, it's a nice bike :-)
--
Westie

PS. Don't get too hung up about lightweight XC bikes. I eat more for
lunch than the weight difference between most normal bikes and
lightweight XC models.

Westie said:

Dave gave some good advice. Remember that you are almost twice the
weight of some of the guys that these bikes are designed for (I'm a bit
over 200 so I can relate too). Maxlight etc equals a quick and probably
painful death for you. Wheels will fold, cranks will shatter and frames
will snap at welds and stress points.

The SID forks are lightweight too. They are air sprung. This means
that they use air compression as the spring. They do not use a metal
coil. You want forks that use a metal coil if you want a decent life
out of your forks. Because of your weight you will blow a seal
(remember that old joke?) very quickly if you use air sprung forks.

Other than that, yeah, it's a nice bike :-)
--
Westie

PS. Don't get too hung up about lightweight XC bikes. I eat more for
lunch than the weight difference between most normal bikes and
lightweight XC models.

PPS. You could post another question asking for reccomendations for HT
bikes for guys>250pounds in the subject line. Include the style of
riding again. That might get some more attention from the other posters
again.
--
Westie

Many thanks again Westie and many thanks to all who've replied. You've now
saved me from buying two unsuitable bikes! 🙂
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Westie said:

Dave gave some good advice. Remember that you are almost twice the
weight of some of the guys that these bikes are designed for (I'm a bit
over 200 so I can relate too). Maxlight etc equals a quick and probably
painful death for you. Wheels will fold, cranks will shatter and frames
will snap at welds and stress points.

The SID forks are lightweight too. They are air sprung. This means that
they use air compression as the spring. They do not use a metal coil.
You want forks that use a metal coil if you want a decent life out of
your forks. Because of your weight you will blow a seal (remember that
old joke?) very quickly if you use air sprung forks.

Other than that, yeah, it's a nice bike :-)
--
Westie

PS. Don't get too hung up about lightweight XC bikes. I eat more for
lunch than the weight difference between most normal bikes and
lightweight XC models.

PPS. You could post another question asking for reccomendations for HT
bikes for guys>250pounds in the subject line. Include the style of riding
again. That might get some more attention from the other posters again.
--
Westie