Scotland Weekend

"Gareth Houghton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I am trying to plan a weekend in scotland in 2 weeks time and want
some ideas of decent munros to do.

I live up here and have done 80, mainly in winter.

Quoted message said:

I was thinking of Doing Ben Cruachan

Great hill. Long ascent from the road. If you did all three a big day.

Quoted message said:

on the saturday and then
depending on energy on the sunday either Ben Lomond or Beinn Narnain,
Ime and Ben Vane.

I would do Ben Ime, from Butterbridge, then use the bealach to do the
Cobbler
and then Narnain. Then return to Butterbridge.

Quoted message said:

Are these good ones to do are are there any better? in the Area.

Quoted message said:

What about Stob Ghabhar, or I would like to do Ben Lawyers but really
dont want a 4 mile road walk.

Good to do those two from Victoria Bridge. Short day.

Nick

Ben Cruachan can be done with Stob Diamh on a circular route and will
give you two Munros.

As you say it depends how you feel the following day but Ben Lomond
ascending or descending via the Ptarmigan for an easier day or Beinn
Narnain with Beinn Ime for a tougher day.

Whatever you choose enjoy your visit.

"Gareth Houghton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I am trying to plan a weekend in scotland in 2 weeks time and want
some ideas of decent munros to do.

I was thinking of Doing Ben Cruachan on the saturday and then
depending on energy on the sunday either Ben Lomond or Beinn Narnain,
Ime and Ben Vane.

Are these good ones to do are are there any better? in the Area.

What about Stob Ghabhar, or I would like to do Ben Lawyers but really
dont want a 4 mile road walk.

Any ideas would be appreciated, as its better to have other peoples
opinions that just reading books.

Although if the weather is good I would drive further and do the 5 munros
around Lochnagar. A long day but easy. Then do the 2 in Glen Clova, Dreish
and Mayar.

Nick

"Gareth Houghton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I am trying to plan a weekend in scotland in 2 weeks time and want
some ideas of decent munros to do.

Take care. Just read the Glasgow herald and a chap, 58 yr old, died on the
Munro
I did yesterday, Ben Chabair, Loch Lomond, it was hot and it is actually
quite a long day.

Nick

Nick said:

"Gareth Houghton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I am trying to plan a weekend in scotland in 2 weeks time and want
some ideas of decent munros to do.

Take care. Just read the Glasgow herald and a chap, 58 yr old, died on the
Munro
I did yesterday, Ben Chabair, Loch Lomond, it was hot and it is actually
quite a long day.

Notorious boggy corrie.....

After Cruachan, you could consider Ben Challum as an easy day (URLs
for TRs)
http://www.sub3000.com/balbum/Scotland/2b/Challum.html

Or Ben Vorlich by Ardlui. Lomond is quite undemanding too.
Narnain is a bit of a brute. As is Vane, but Vane is quite a short
day, just steep. Looked nice yesterday.

Dubhcreag and Beinn Oss are not too tough a pair as well.

Cruachan is quite a big day, but not too bad considering the height. 2
Munros and a Corbett on the horseshoe, so good value for ticking.
http://www.sub3000.com/balbum/Scotland/3c/Cruachan.html

For an easy Munro, try Stob a Coire Odhair next to Stob Gabhar. zig
zag path most of the way - good views too
http://www.sub3000.com/balbum/Scotland/3c/ChoireOdhair.html

Richard Webb

Richard Webb

"Gareth Houghton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I am trying to plan a weekend in scotland in 2 weeks time and want
some ideas of decent munros to do.

The weather makes or breaks this place, try to plan your hills around the
weather, looking at the gfs runs for sat 7th may
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn2881.gif would show northern
cairngorms as the place to aim for (however that is the 288 hrs run and
hence subject to change (sometimes massively)) So leave your choice as late
as possible and head for the opposite corner of the country from which the
wind is blowing from and you will enjoy whatever hill you chose to go up.

This weekend gone Skye was the place to be, Blaven on Sunday was as good as
it gets http://www.stuartstuart.fsnet.co.uk/misc/hguyt.jpg , however on a
normal day Skye is appalling.

Stuart
http://www.stuartstuart.fsnet.co.uk/munros/

Gareth Houghton said:

I am trying to plan a weekend in scotland in 2 weeks time and want
some ideas of decent munros to do.

Don't get hung up on Munros. There are plenty of quality hills under
3000'. Ben Ledi & Ben Vane are easy to reach (just up the way from
Callander, near Stirling) and make a great day, for example.

Quoted message said:

I was thinking of Doing Ben Cruachan on the saturday and then
depending on energy on the sunday either Ben Lomond or Beinn Narnain,
Ime and Ben Vane.

Cruachan's a superb hill. The Arrochar Alps are a fine range, and more
interesting than Ben Lomond IMHO. It's also easier to expand or shrink
your route according to time and tiredness. Echoing my first paragraph,
the Cobbler (aka Ben Arthur) is IMHO much the finest summit in the
Arrochar Alps and it would be rude not to do it if you're going up there.

Quoted message said:

What about Stob Ghabhar, or I would like to do Ben Lawyers but really
dont want a 4 mile road walk.

So don't do a 4 mile road walk! No need for it for Ben Lawers...

Pete.
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

"Gareth Houghton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I was thinking of Doing Ben Cruachan on the saturday and then
depending on energy on the sunday either Ben Lomond or Beinn Narnain,
Ime and Ben Vane.

Ben Cruachan is a good mountain but will probably have snow on the top at
the moment - it lasts most years into may. If you are going around Ben vane
and Ben Ime, then do The Cobbler/Ben Arthur(which is not a munro but a lot
more fun than many). From what I remember, Ben Ime was a long slog uphill
with little to lend to the appeal until you get to the top and see the
views - often get temperature inversions here because of the sea lochs so
you get that wonderful feeling of being above the clouds and just seeing the
tops.

We managed The Cobbler, Ben Ime (and would have done Narnain but for some
bad weather) in one day but it was too much of a push to do Ben Vane too
that day - it is a long walk back to Arrochar. Incidentally, the vikings
actually dragged a longboat across this Glen because they thought they had
found a route out to Scandinavia but then realised that they had just hit
the next Loch.

Quoted message said:

Are these good ones to do are are there any better? in the Area.

I've always liked the look of the mountains around Loch Katrine - I dont
think many are munros but the views are fantastic.

Rob

Rob Devereux said:

I've always liked the look of the mountains around Loch Katrine - I dont
think many are munros but the views are fantastic.

There's Ben Venue on the East end of Loch Katrine, nice walk.

Roos

Roos Eisma said:

Rob Devereux said:

I've always liked the look of the mountains around Loch Katrine - I dont
think many are munros but the views are fantastic.

There's Ben Venue on the East end of Loch Katrine, nice walk.

I was there on Saturday - still got the sunburn - but took the (less
popular) route from the south at Loch Ard. I read various route guides
that included words like 'wet', 'boggy', and 'mud' when referring to the
approach from the east, so decided on the longer alternative.

Colin

Peter Clinch said:

Gareth Houghton said:

I am trying to plan a weekend in scotland in 2 weeks time and want
some ideas of decent munros to do.

Don't get hung up on Munros. There are plenty of quality hills under
3000'. Ben Ledi & Ben Vane are easy to reach (just up the way from
Callander, near Stirling) and make a great day, for example.

Quoted message said:

I was thinking of Doing Ben Cruachan on the saturday and then
depending on energy on the sunday either Ben Lomond or Beinn Narnain,
Ime and Ben Vane.

Cruachan's a superb hill. The Arrochar Alps are a fine range, and more
interesting than Ben Lomond IMHO. It's also easier to expand or shrink
your route according to time and tiredness. Echoing my first paragraph,
the Cobbler (aka Ben Arthur) is IMHO much the finest summit in the
Arrochar Alps and it would be rude not to do it if you're going up there.

I thought to get to the summit of the cobbler, It was a rock climb.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

What about Stob Ghabhar, or I would like to do Ben Lawyers but really
dont want a 4 mile road walk.

So don't do a 4 mile road walk! No need for it for Ben Lawers...

Yeah When I said Ben Lawers, I meant taking in the 5 or so munros, not
just Lawers on its own.

Rob Devereux said:

"Gareth Houghton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I was thinking of Doing Ben Cruachan on the saturday and then
depending on energy on the sunday either Ben Lomond or Beinn Narnain,
Ime and Ben Vane.

Ben Cruachan is a good mountain but will probably have snow on the top at
the moment - it lasts most years into may.

Surely there cant be much up there now can there?

Gareth Houghton said:

I thought to get to the summit of the cobbler, It was a rock climb.

No, you crawl through a wee arch/tunnel and then scramble up a couple of
blocks and you're there. Not for the faint of heart, but a short
scranble with bomber holds rather than a formal "rock climb".

The lower summit doesn't need such Derring-Do, and is still more
interesting and with a better view than either of the nearest Munros IMHO.

Quoted message said:

Yeah When I said Ben Lawers, I meant taking in the 5 or so munros, not
just Lawers on its own.

I did the round of all 7 in the group starting from Glen Lyon, didn't
walk on the road at all. It's reasonably easy to put together a
circular route from that side taking in several.

Pete.
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

"Gareth Houghton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Rob Devereux said:

"Gareth Houghton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I was thinking of Doing Ben Cruachan on the saturday and then
depending on energy on the sunday either Ben Lomond or Beinn Narnain,
Ime and Ben Vane.

Ben Cruachan is a good mountain but will probably have snow on the top at
the moment - it lasts most years into may.

Surely there cant be much up there now can there?

Probably just some old hard patches in northern gullies, certainly not a
snow capped peak as Rob was implying! Yes, it can get occasional coverings
at this time of year, but they don't last long, basically you won't be
needing your winter ironmongery!

"Gareth Houghton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

So don't do a 4 mile road walk! No need for it for Ben Lawers...

Yeah When I said Ben Lawers, I meant taking in the 5 or so munros, not
just Lawers on its own.

Presumably you are thinking of the Visitors center to Lawers village ? ...
get a taxi back. Actually doing it the other way is better asthetically!

On Sat I got a bit carried away in the Cullins, set off from the Youth
Hostil to do a round of Coire Ghreadhaih, conditions were so good I stayed
on the ridge to Gillean then ended up at the Sligachen, the taxi back wacked
me for 25 notes!!!! (soloing nicholsons chimney, on my ownsome, with
everyone thinking I was on a completely different part of the ridge got the
heart a fair pumpin!!)

"Stuart" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

"Gareth Houghton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

So don't do a 4 mile road walk! No need for it for Ben Lawers...

Yeah When I said Ben Lawers, I meant taking in the 5 or so munros, not
just Lawers on its own.

Presumably you are thinking of the Visitors center to Lawers village ? ...
get a taxi back. Actually doing it the other way is better asthetically!

On Sat I got a bit carried away in the Cullins, set off from the Youth
Hostil to do a round of Coire Ghreadhaih, conditions were so good I stayed
on the ridge to Gillean then ended up at the Sligachen, the taxi back
wacked
me for 25 notes!!!! (soloing nicholsons chimney, on my ownsome, with
everyone thinking I was on a completely different part of the ridge got
the
heart a fair pumpin!!)

.....but my guess is you had a great time. (no chance of a hitch back ?)

--
Theo
www.theosphotos.fotopic.net

"theo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

"Stuart" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

"Gareth Houghton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

>
>So don't do a 4 mile road walk! No need for it for Ben Lawers...

Yeah When I said Ben Lawers, I meant taking in the 5 or so munros, not
just Lawers on its own.

Presumably you are thinking of the Visitors center to Lawers village ?

....

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

get a taxi back. Actually doing it the other way is better asthetically!

On Sat I got a bit carried away in the Cullins, set off from the Youth
Hostil to do a round of Coire Ghreadhaih, conditions were so good I

stayed

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

on the ridge to Gillean then ended up at the Sligachen, the taxi back
wacked
me for 25 notes!!!! (soloing nicholsons chimney, on my ownsome, with
everyone thinking I was on a completely different part of the ridge got
the
heart a fair pumpin!!)

....but my guess is you had a great time. (no chance of a hitch back ?)

I think their would be every chance in hitching the other way, but the
sligachen to glen brittle at 9pm, I think I might of struggled!

Peter Clinch said:

Gareth Houghton said:

I thought to get to the summit of the cobbler, It was a rock climb.

No, you crawl through a wee arch/tunnel and then scramble up a couple of
blocks and you're there. Not for the faint of heart, but a short
scranble with bomber holds rather than a formal "rock climb".

Its quite easy in the dry.... And fun.
Picture of the crawl here
http://www.sub3000.com/The%20Cobbler.htm#COB

Quoted message said:

The lower summit doesn't need such Derring-Do, and is still more
interesting and with a better view than either of the nearest Munros IMHO.

Only problem with the view - no Cobbler! A small price to pay to
visit such a wonderful place.

The Munros are fine.. Its all good stuff. A good quickie nearby is
Beinn an Lochain, above the Rest and Be Thankful - steep narrow ridge
with great scenery.

Richard Webb

Roos Eisma said:

Rob Devereux said:

I've always liked the look of the mountains around Loch Katrine - I dont
think many are munros but the views are fantastic.

There's Ben Venue on the East end of Loch Katrine, nice walk.

Mind the bogs.... Avoid by heading uphill as soon as you leave the
forest if going up from Achray. Books talk of bad bogs in the forest -
these have been tamed by a good path, only to the edge of the trees
though
http://www.sub3000.com/balbum/Scotland/1c/Venue.html

Cruachan will be OK re snow.. Only fresh recent falls are likely, the
winter stuff is now just in shady gullies.

Richard Webb