I spent the best part of two hours this afternoon trying to fit two new Schwalbe Marathon Plus tyres to two 700C rims to replace my worn out Continental Top Tourings.
Wow...what a job.
At first the tyres seemed too big both in diameter and tread width for the rims and I was pondering if they had been wrongly sized.
After a cup of tea and a good swear I had another go and via a queer combination of vertically pressing the beads down into the rims ( difficult to explain ) and the *conventional method*,I managed to get the buggers to fit.Getting the last bit of bead into the rim was a joy in itself.
I can only hope they are as puncture resistant as Schwalbe would have you believe because the thought of performing this little conjuring trick at the side of the road doesn't bear thinking about.
I can only hope they are as puncture resistant as Schwalbe would have you believe because the thought of performing this little conjuring trick at the side of the road doesn't bear thinking about.
The army are considering using them to armour Challenger Tanks. They *are* bullet proof.
"Sam Salt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]
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I can only hope they are as puncture resistant as Schwalbe would have you believe because the thought of performing this little conjuring trick at the side of the road doesn't bear thinking about.
I've had a couple on the galaxy now since new - rear one just wearing out. 10,000 miles, only two punctures. I'd say they're great.
Tim
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"Sam Salt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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I spent the best part of two hours this afternoon trying to fit two new Schwalbe Marathon Plus tyres to two 700C rims to replace my worn out Continental Top Tourings.
Wow...what a job.
At first the tyres seemed too big both in diameter and tread width for the rims and I was pondering if they had been wrongly sized.
After a cup of tea and a good swear I had another go and via a queer combination of vertically pressing the beads down into the rims ( difficult to explain ) and the *conventional method*,I managed to get the buggers to fit.Getting the last bit of bead into the rim was a joy in itself.
I can only hope they are as puncture resistant as Schwalbe would have you believe because the thought of performing this little conjuring trick at the side of the road doesn't bear thinking about.
Thanks! I have two sitting in my shed to be fitted .. now I've postponed fitting them, and bought a pack of Hob Nobs and some tea bags instead!
I spent the best part of two hours this afternoon trying to fit two new Schwalbe Marathon Plus tyres to two 700C rims to replace my worn out Continental Top Tourings.
Wow...what a job.
Hehe, it took three of use to heave a pair onto the Open Sport rims of my Fixie. I really hope they live up to their rep - there's no way I could get one back on after a puncture :-/
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I can only hope they are as puncture resistant as Schwalbe would have you believe because the thought of performing this little conjuring trick at the side of the road doesn't bear thinking about.
The army are considering using them to armour Challenger Tanks. They *are* bullet proof.
I have done over 5000 miles on my Marathon Plus with ( at a whisper) no punctures.
-- Trevor A Panther In South Yorkshire, England, United Kingdom. www.tapan.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
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I can only hope they are as puncture resistant as Schwalbe would have you believe because the thought of performing this little conjuring trick at the side of the road doesn't bear thinking about.
The army are considering using them to armour Challenger Tanks. They *are* bullet proof.
I have done over 5000 miles on my Marathon Plus with ( at a whisper) no punctures.
3000 on mine. Poster up there ---^ reckons 10,000 to wear them out. I wondered how long it was going to take.
My old Hutchinson <spits> kevlars used to last 2,000 odd miles to thread so its a bit of a saving in tyres, if not just peice of mind.
I spent the best part of two hours this afternoon trying to fit two new Schwalbe Marathon Plus tyres to two 700C rims to replace my worn out Continental Top Tourings.
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I can only hope they are as puncture resistant as Schwalbe would have you believe because the thought of performing this little conjuring trick at the side of the road doesn't bear thinking about.
I've had mine for a year now and have had about 3000 miles with no punctures! They rear tyre came off the rim for the first time this weekend (I was mending a broken spoke). While it was tough getting it back on it certainly wasn't as difficult as getting it on originally was. It took a minute or two of pushing it well into the rim all round and a bit of force with a tyre lever -- but nothing like the effort required when it was new.
I spent the best part of two hours this afternoon trying to fit two new Schwalbe Marathon Plus tyres to two 700C rims to replace my worn out Continental Top Tourings.
Wow...what a job.
At first the tyres seemed too big both in diameter and tread width for the rims and I was pondering if they had been wrongly sized.
After a cup of tea and a good swear I had another go and via a queer combination of vertically pressing the beads down into the rims ( difficult to explain ) and the *conventional method*,I managed to get the buggers to fit.Getting the last bit of bead into the rim was a joy in itself.
I can only hope they are as puncture resistant as Schwalbe would have you believe because the thought of performing this little conjuring trick at the side of the road doesn't bear thinking about.
They're impossible to get off at the roadside as well. I skinned my knuckles last time I tried.
I've never managed to get them off my Brommie. I tried to use some "lightweight" plastic tyre levers which were pretty useless. Had to take them to my LBS everytime. I really should invest in some steel levers.
I've never managed to get them off my Brommie. I tried to use some "lightweight" plastic tyre levers which were pretty useless.
I have one decent set of plastic levers and one set made of cheese - I hadn't noticed they were any different until I fitted some particularly tight tyres.
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Had to take them to my LBS everytime. I really should invest in some steel levers.
Did you try lubricating the tyre with dilute washing-up liquid? That can help.
I've never managed to get them off my Brommie. I tried to use some "lightweight" plastic tyre levers which were pretty useless. Had to take them to my LBS everytime. I really should invest in some steel levers.
At first the tyres seemed too big both in diameter and tread width for the rims and I was pondering if they had been wrongly sized.
I thought this, too.
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After a cup of tea and a good swear I had another go and via a queer combination of vertically pressing the beads down into the rims ( difficult to explain )
I know what you mean, pressing the beads into the rims proved to be the best method, I found. It took me an age before I sussed that out. I was fuming by the time I'd got them (the 32c width) onto my Alesa Endeavours.
I had no problems removing them using levers made of cheese.
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I can only hope they are as puncture resistant as Schwalbe would have you believe because the thought of performing this little conjuring trick at the side of the road doesn't bear thinking about.
Give yourself a pat on the back if you puncture them.
On a slightly different note -- I found the ride rather unusual, with the membrane making them feel quite lifeless. I'm back on standard Marathons now, I may consider going to the "Racer" version in the future. I really like the build quality of Schwalbe tires.
They're impossible to get off at the roadside as well. I skinned my knuckles last time I tried.
I somehow managed to puncture one of mine after about 3000 miles, removal and refit wasn't a problem for me despite having loads of trouble getting them on in the first place. I guess a lot depends on your rims.
I spent the best part of two hours this afternoon trying to fit two new Schwalbe Marathon Plus tyres to two 700C rims to replace my worn out Continental Top Tourings.
Wow...what a job.
At first the tyres seemed too big both in diameter and tread width for the rims and I was pondering if they had been wrongly sized.
After a cup of tea and a good swear I had another go and via a queer combination of vertically pressing the beads down into the rims ( difficult to explain ) and the *conventional method*,I managed to get the buggers to fit.Getting the last bit of bead into the rim was a joy in itself.
I can only hope they are as puncture resistant as Schwalbe would have you believe because the thought of performing this little conjuring trick at the side of the road doesn't bear thinking about.
Sam Salt
Tonight, I had personal experience of getting Schwalbe Stelvios plus back onto a 700C rim [1]- it was very easy, no tyre levers required. Pumped it up, only to find a bulge where the tyre hadn't seated very well. Was a bit tricky getting it back in, as it was getting dark quite rapidly and I was a bit panicky as I didn't have my lights with me.
[1] Punctured by a sharp sliver of metal, straight through the puncture resistant bit. Cut my finger on it while I was looking for the cause.
Incidentally, I've noticed a lot of repair kits with only two tyre levers, which IMHO is one short of a pair. Sort of.
I could well be doing things wrong, but although I have 3 levers, I have only ever used 2 to get a tyre off or on.
-- Don Whybrow
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On 17 Oct 2006 05:08:00 -0700, "Kevin" <[email hidden]>
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I've never managed to get them off my Brommie. I tried to use some "lightweight" plastic tyre levers which were pretty useless. Had to take them to my LBS everytime. I really should invest in some steel levers.
No, you want a VAR tyre lever. They're really rather good.
I can only hope they are as puncture resistant as Schwalbe would have you believe because the thought of performing this little conjuring trick at the side of the road doesn't bear thinking about.
Well, I've yet to experience the "joys" of the Marathon Plus. However I have experienced both an 'ordinary' Marathon (on 700C and 20"😉 and Marathon Slick (20"😉, and based on that limited sample set I would say the ordinary Marathon involved about as much pain and suffering as you described. The Marathon Slick, OTOH (and not meaning to tempt fate, since I'm still waiting to see if the p*fairy is sufficiently impressed with my latest offering), went on quite easily (ie: fingers only, no particular expletives required). -- These opinions might not even be mine ... Let alone connected with my employer ...
