Scattante 2003 CFR Carbon - Opinions??

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For $1,599, they look like an incredible deal for a full carbon frame/fork, full Ultegra groupo,
and Shimano R540 Wheelset. I've had good experiences buying from Supergo and am not a euro-bike
brand snob. I'm an intermediate road cyclist and mountain biker and weigh approx 145lbs.

Best bet would be to ride one and see how well you can make it fit, not to mention how it handles.
The pricing is only $400 less than a new TREK full-carbon bike that will make its debut around the
end of January, with the same frame as the 5200.

There's no difficulty building a cheap carbon bike; the trick is to build one that handles well and
is very durable.

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Hey All,

I'm looking to finally replace my 16 year old road bike with a Scattante 2003 CFR Carbon w/ triple
Ultegra from Supergo. Anyone have any first-hand experience with these bikes?

For $1,599, they look like an incredible deal for a full carbon frame/fork, full Ultegra groupo,
and Shimano R540 Wheelset. I've had good experiences buying from Supergo and am not a euro-bike
brand snob. I'm an intermediate road cyclist and mountain biker and weigh approx 145lbs.

Thanks for any helpful input! -Zuke

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For $1,599, they look like an incredible deal for a full carbon frame/fork, full Ultegra groupo,
and Shimano R540 Wheelset. I've

had

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good experiences buying from Supergo and am not a euro-bike brand snob. I'm an intermediate road
cyclist and mountain biker and

weigh

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approx 145lbs.

Best bet would be to ride one and see how well you can make it fit,

not to

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mention how it handles. The pricing is only $400 less than a new

TREK

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full-carbon bike that will make its debut around the end of January,

with

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the same frame as the 5200.

There's no difficulty building a cheap carbon bike; the trick is to

build

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one that handles well and is very durable.

Actually I would advise this route. There's a guy in the club that has a carbon bike that looks just
like that Scantante (it might not be mind you) with some other off-brand name on it. It isn't a bad
bike but neither is it anywhere near as good as a Trek.

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Actually I would advise this route. There's a guy in the club that has a carbon bike that looks
just like that Scantante (it might not be mind you) with some other off-brand name on it. It isn't
a bad bike but neither is it anywhere near as good as a Trek.

What are the differences?

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Actually I would advise this route. There's a guy in the club that has a carbon bike that looks
just like that Scantante (it might not be mind you) with some other off-brand name on it. It
isn't a bad bike but neither is it anywhere near as good as a Trek.

What are the differences?

If nothing else, one difference might be the warranty. I don't know what the warranty is on a
*Scanttante* or any other Taiwanese-made carbon frame, but Trek has arguably one of the BEST
warranties around - Lifetime to the original owner. At the very least, I would test ride an OCLV and
see which one fits you the best....

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Actually I would advise this route. There's a guy in the club that has a carbon bike that looks
just like that Scantante (it might not be mind you) with some other off-brand name on it. It
isn't a bad bike but neither is it anywhere near as good as a Trek.

What are the differences?

If nothing else, one difference might be the warranty. I don't know what the warranty is on a
*Scanttante* or any other Taiwanese-made carbon frame, but Trek has arguably one of the BEST
warranties around - Lifetime to the original owner. At the very least, I would test ride an OCLV
and see which one fits you the best....

In total agreement.

Kenny Lee

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Actually I would advise this route. There's a guy in the club that

has

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a carbon bike that looks just like that Scantante (it might not be mind you) with some other off-
brand name on it. It isn't a bad

bike

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but neither is it anywhere near as good as a Trek.

What are the differences?

In order to make the bike reliable they tend to overbuild them by a considerable margin. And since
the layups aren't anywhere near as tight as the Trek believe me, you WANT them overbuilt.

However, the result of all of this is that the bike is so stiff normally that it still rings like a
metal bike and there isn't any weight advantage from going to carbon fiber.

Now none of these are bad things, but if you're looking to move UP to a carbon fiber bike you might
as well move up and not sideways.

Guys, thanks for the discussion. Some food for thought for sure. I think I'll be heading down to Los
Angeles this week and try out both bikes at a Supergo store down there...

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Actually I would advise this route. There's a guy in the club that

has

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a carbon bike that looks just like that Scantante (it might not be mind you) with some other
off-brand name on it. It isn't a bad

bike

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but neither is it anywhere near as good as a Trek.

What are the differences?

In order to make the bike reliable they tend to overbuild them by a considerable margin. And since
the layups aren't anywhere near as tight as the Trek believe me, you WANT them overbuilt.

However, the result of all of this is that the bike is so stiff normally that it still rings like a
metal bike and there isn't any weight advantage from going to carbon fiber.

Now none of these are bad things, but if you're looking to move UP to a carbon fiber bike you might
as well move up and not sideways.

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Guys, thanks for the discussion. Some food for thought for sure. I think I'll be heading down to
Los Angeles this week and try out both bikes at a Supergo store down there...

I don't believe any Supergo shops sell TREK, but I think that Helen's Cyclery (which does sell TREK)
isn't too far away from a Supergo.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles www.ChainReaction.com

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Guys, thanks for the discussion. Some food for thought for sure. I think I'll be heading down to
Los Angeles this week and try out both bikes at a Supergo store down there...

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> Actually I would advise this route. There's a guy in the club that

has

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> a carbon bike that looks just like that Scantante (it might not be mind you) with some other
> off-brand name on it. It isn't a bad

bike

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> but neither is it anywhere near as good as a Trek.

What are the differences?

In order to make the bike reliable they tend to overbuild them by a considerable margin. And
since the layups aren't anywhere near as tight as the Trek believe me, you WANT them overbuilt.

However, the result of all of this is that the bike is so stiff normally that it still rings like
a metal bike and there isn't any weight advantage from going to carbon fiber.

Now none of these are bad things, but if you're looking to move UP to a carbon fiber bike you
might as well move up and not sideways.