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goddam, the sports fans in this country are naive.

Now they're saying, "oh my god, maybe he's taking performance enhancing drugs too!"

dude looks like he's been shooting up with HGH since puberty. His facial features are almost
cartoonish.

No drug testing, tens of millions of dollars in salary on the line.

duh.

At the lead in for Sportscenter yesterday they said this corked bat of Sammy's could well be the
"story of the year". Interesting that the likely prospect of steroid use by a large percentage of
players was not "the story of the year" a few months ago.

-WG

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goddam, the sports fans in this country are naive. Now they're saying, "oh my god, maybe he's
taking performance enhancing drugs too!" dude looks like he's been shooting up with HGH since
puberty. His facial features are almost cartoonish.

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No drug testing, tens of millions of dollars in salary on the line.

duh.

Of course these professional athletes are on drugs. But many in this group will claim that the
reason they are better than you and me is because they have a bigger heart. [censored] on that, look
in their medicene cabinet and you will find what's really propping up your hero.

He said he'd never used a corked bat in a real game before. I actually believe him. Why would he
need a corked bat? The steroids and HGH were more than enough.

Just a thought but maybe he was caught for something else and they gave him this chance to evade the
other violation. That would explain why this is the only corked bat in his ownership.

Brian

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He said he'd never used a corked bat in a real game before. I actually believe him. Why would he
need a corked bat? The steroids and HGH were

more

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than enough.

Actually it is all space aliens.

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Just a thought but maybe he was caught for something else and they

gave him

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this chance to evade the other violation. That would explain why this is the only corked bat in
his ownership.

Brian

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He said he'd never used a corked bat in a real game before. I

actually

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believe him. Why would he need a corked bat? The steroids and HGH

were

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more

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than enough.

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Brian-<< Just a thought but maybe he was caught for something else and

they

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gave him this chance to evade the other violation.

I think they gave him a few innings to get rid of his other corked bats,

and

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then made a small stink about the one, for 'Baseball'. It is kinda in

trouble,

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afterall...

Declining attendance. Empty seats, even in brand-new ballparks.

Kids don't play it as much anymore. They play soccer.

It's just too slow-moving a game for the modern world. Great game for America, circa 1900-1950.

America 2000-2050? Something Else.

Memo to anyone who wins the Powerball Lottery: don't buy a baseball franchise.

"Kurgan Gringioni" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Brian-<< Just a thought but maybe he was caught for something else and

they

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gave him this chance to evade the other violation.

I think they gave him a few innings to get rid of his other corked bats,

and

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then made a small stink about the one, for 'Baseball'. It is kinda in

trouble,

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afterall...

Declining attendance. Empty seats, even in brand-new ballparks.

Kids don't play it as much anymore. They play soccer.

It's just too slow-moving a game for the modern world. Great game for America, circa 1900-1950.

America 2000-2050? Something Else.

Don't tell the Seattle Mariner's fans that baseball isn't popular anymore.

Ichiro and team are local hero's for the Washington state folk, and he's a damn good cyclist also.

Dashii

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Brian-<< Just a thought but maybe he was caught for something else and

they

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gave him this chance to evade the other violation.

I think they gave him a few innings to get rid of his other corked bats,

and

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then made a small stink about the one, for 'Baseball'. It is kinda in

trouble,

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afterall...

Declining attendance. Empty seats, even in brand-new ballparks.

Kids don't play it as much anymore. They play soccer.

It's just too slow-moving a game for the modern world. Great game for America, circa 1900-1950.

America 2000-2050? Something Else.

Memo to anyone who wins the Powerball Lottery: don't buy a baseball franchise.

Nothing tugs at Americans' heart strings quite like baseball. I would buy a baseball team before
any other.

The fastest way to gain political clout in a city of more than 1 million inhabitants is to purchase
the local pro sports team(s) (preferably major league if possible - MLB, NFL, NBA, NHL, ...). I've
seen it happen in smaller cities (eg, AAA, AHL).

If I won the Powerball, and had political ambitions, but didn't want to soil myself with things like
actually running for office, that's what I would do.

You don't have to be the mayor of a city to call the shots (*cough*, public bonds, *cough*, ticket
guarantee, *cough*). You've been around this town long enough to know that.

As far as empty seats go, that's just an after-the-fact public relations issue; just give some
nosebleed seats to some poor kids. Awwww, isn't that nice.

-Gerard

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"Kurgan Gringioni" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Brian-<< Just a thought but maybe he was caught for something else and

they

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gave him this chance to evade the other violation.

I think they gave him a few innings to get rid of his other corked bats,

and

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then made a small stink about the one, for 'Baseball'. It is kinda in

trouble,

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afterall...

Declining attendance. Empty seats, even in brand-new ballparks.

Kids don't play it as much anymore. They play soccer.

It's just too slow-moving a game for the modern world. Great game for America, circa 1900-1950.

America 2000-2050? Something Else.

Don't tell the Seattle Mariner's fans that baseball isn't popular anymore.

Ichiro and team are local hero's for the Washington state folk, and he's a damn good cyclist also.

Hey, if it was a choice between watching the M's or the Seahawks, I'd pick Ichiro too, and I hate
baseball and love football.

Not the best example,
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Ryan Cousineau, [email hidden] sfu.ca~rcousineOpen ↗ President, Fabrizio Mazzoleni Fan Club

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"Kurgan Gringioni" <[email hidden]> writes:

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Memo to anyone who wins the Powerball Lottery: don't buy a baseball franchise.

Nothing tugs at Americans' heart strings quite like baseball. I would buy a baseball team before
any other.

The fastest way to gain political clout in a city of more than 1 million inhabitants is to
purchase the local pro sports team(s) (preferably major league if possible - MLB, NFL, NBA, NHL,
...). I've seen it happen in smaller cities (eg, AAA, AHL).

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Ya, how about those franchises in Montreal and Florida?

Baseball has long term problems. The attendance is going down.

Not all franchises exhibit this malady, but in the long run, I think it'll decline, especially when
the baby boomers get really old and the Gen X'ers grow up.

I agree with your take about sports franchises blackmailing cities into buying stadiums for
them, but I'd invest in any of the major sports before baseball. In today's fast moving world,
it's too slow.

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He said he'd never used a corked bat in a real game before. I actually believe him. Why would he
need a corked bat? The steroids and HGH were more than enough.

Like so many other things (doping, training methods, diet) in sports I think the advantage of a
corked bat is a myth.

I guess the supposed advantage is that a lighter bat allows higher bat speed (?) (there's lots of
stuff if you Google), but even this isn't a concensus.

Robert Adair (who wrote "The Physics of Baseball"😉 gave a talk at my school once and I asked him
about corked bats and he said it wouldn't help and would probably hurt, citing several reasons. Plus
I've seen a study which showed (at least some) hitters are swinging that bat so fast that a lighter
bat couldn't be swung faster.

Plus a corked bat is guaranteed to shatter.

-Amit

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kurgan-<< I agree with your take about sports franchises blackmailing

cities

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into buying stadiums for them, but I'd invest in any of the major sports

before

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baseball. In today's fast moving world, it's too slow.

Don't agree it's too slow, it's called a 'pastime', afterall..I great

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to

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spend a summer afternoon...

It's a game of inches and finesse...I love it...

Sure, but what are you, a baby boomer?

I'm talking about the future. Baseball is in long-term decline. It's

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about on sports talk radio and the hosts, like you, are baseball fans.

Baseball was king for your generation. The young people of today are

more

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interested in other sports - basketball, football, xtreme sports.

Football? I don't think so. Their fan base consists of a bunch of six pack swilling fat slobs
almost too lazy to get off of the couch to get another beer and bag of chips.

There are plenty of six pack swilling, fat, young people.

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Football? I don't think so. Their fan base consists of a bunch of six pack swilling fat slobs
almost too lazy to get off of the couch to get another beer and bag of chips.

Yeah yeah, how about some more original stereotypes ? Football fans (and pretty much all sports
fans) are men, but there are football fans in every demographic except maybe liberal nerds.

-Amit

Washington is also know for being super dreary (like baseball) and having the highest suicide (like
me after wonder 9 painfully slow innings) maybe if they play baseball and you could try and hit the
batter or some [censored].

Baseball has been [censored] ever since the strike.

Bunch of winers, you've got Sosa saying it was an accident. What kind of [censored] is that. It's like the
difference of picking a full bottle of water compared to a half full. You can feel it pickin' it up,
you can sure as hell feel it swinging it.

Put the little cuban or dominican republic alien back on raft (no doubt a cork raft would float)

Rope

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Brian-<< Just a thought but maybe he was caught for something else and

they

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gave him this chance to evade the other violation.

I think they gave him a few innings to get rid of his other corked

bats,

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and

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then made a small stink about the one, for 'Baseball'. It is kinda in

trouble,

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afterall...

Declining attendance. Empty seats, even in brand-new ballparks.

Kids don't play it as much anymore. They play soccer.

It's just too slow-moving a game for the modern world. Great game for America, circa 1900-1950.

America 2000-2050? Something Else.

Don't tell the Seattle Mariner's fans that baseball isn't popular anymore.

Ichiro and team are local hero's for the Washington state folk, and he's a damn good cyclist also.

Dashii

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Washington is also know for being super dreary (like baseball) and having the highest suicide
(like me after wonder 9 painfully slow innings) maybe

if

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they play baseball and you could try and hit the batter or some [censored].

You are quite the dummy, aren't you!

Washington state is ranked as 21st on the "State Suicide Rankings -2000", Alaska is #1.
spanusa.org2000statepg.pdfOpen ↗

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Put the little cuban or dominican republic alien back on raft (no doubt a cork raft would float)

You're a racist little [censored], what are you, other than dumb?

Dashii

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Rope

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> Brian-<< Just a thought but maybe he was caught for something else

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bats,

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> then made a small stink about the one, for 'Baseball'. It is kinda

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trouble,
> afterall...

Declining attendance. Empty seats, even in brand-new ballparks.

Kids don't play it as much anymore. They play soccer.

It's just too slow-moving a game for the modern world. Great game for America, circa
1900-1950.

America 2000-2050? Something Else.

Don't tell the Seattle Mariner's fans that baseball isn't popular

anymore.

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Ichiro and team are local hero's for the Washington state folk, and he's

a

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damn good cyclist also.

Dashii

Other than dumb,

I'm hung like a horse, able to leap tall buckets in a single, and faster than a speeding grandma

And I'm not a racist, I didn't all people from so and so do this or that, or figures he would do
that cuz he's from so and so. I guess you're right though, me being a native american married to an
asian would make me racist, I forgot.

Dumbass,

Rope

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Washington is also know for being super dreary (like baseball) and

having

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the highest suicide (like me after wonder 9 painfully slow innings)

maybe

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if

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they play baseball and you could try and hit the batter or some [censored].

You are quite the dummy, aren't you!

Washington state is ranked as 21st on the "State Suicide Rankings -2000", Alaska is #1.
spanusa.org2000statepg.pdfOpen ↗

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Put the little cuban or dominican republic alien back on raft (no doubt

a

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cork raft would float)

You're a racist little [censored], what are you, other than dumb?

Dashii

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Rope

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"Kurgan Gringioni" <[email hidden]> wrote

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> America, circa 1900-1950.
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> America 2000-2050? Something Else.

Don't tell the Seattle Mariner's fans that baseball isn't popular

anymore.

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Ichiro and team are local hero's for the Washington state folk, and

he's

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a

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damn good cyclist also.

Dashii

"Rope <-- Huh?" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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I guess you're right though, me being a native american married to an asian would make me

racist,

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I forgot.

I'm not calling you a racist, but being a minority does not mean one cannot be a racist. There are
racists in every ethnic, religious and gender group.

completely agree - anyone can be a racist or discriminatory.

Your thought reminds of a number of years ago (like 10 or something) on the MTV real world show in
New York (I think the first or second one when it was an original idea) of the black guy Kevin
calling this girl a racist, he was actually the one being a racist, but he was claiming how he
couldn't be a racist because he was black. Like that precluded him from being a racist. Completely
inane thought process.

Anyway - a bicycle racing forum --> Baseball --> Racism dissection

Rope

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"Rope <-- Huh?" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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I guess you're right though, me being a native american married to an asian would make me

racist,

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I forgot.

I'm not calling you a racist, but being a minority does not mean one

cannot

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be a racist. There are racists in every ethnic, religious and gender

group.

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Other than dumb,

I'm hung like a horse, able to leap tall buckets in a single, and faster than a speeding grandma

And I'm not a racist, I didn't all people from so and so do this or that,

or

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figures he would do that cuz he's from so and so. I guess you're right though, me being a native
american married to an asian would make me

racist,

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I forgot.

I see you didn't deny being a [censored] though! <G>

Dashii

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Dumbass,

Rope

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Washington is also know for being super dreary (like baseball) and

having

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the highest suicide (like me after wonder 9 painfully slow innings)

maybe

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if

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they play baseball and you could try and hit the batter or some [censored].

You are quite the dummy, aren't you!

Washington state is ranked as 21st on the "State Suicide

Rankings -2000",

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Alaska is #1. spanusa.org2000statepg.pdfOpen ↗

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Put the little cuban or dominican republic alien back on raft (no

doubt

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a

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cork raft would float)

You're a racist little [censored], what are you, other than dumb?

Dashii

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Rope

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> Don't tell the Seattle Mariner's fans that baseball isn't popular

anymore.

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> Ichiro and team are local hero's for the Washington state folk, and

he's

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