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  1. My humblest apologies if this thread has already been sewn, but I
    hadn't seen anything on it and was looking for confirmation:

    Quoted message said:

    From IHT May 30:


    "Salvodelli was unhappy because team support staff were not in place to
    hand him food on the climb.
    "'In between that climb (Finestre), the descent and then the climb to
    Sestrieres, it was almost two hours of effort without being able to eat
    anything.'"
    As Salvodelli battled with hunger and gesticulated angrily at his team
    car..."

    I didn't see the race on tv, I saw nothing of this on cyclingnews,
    velonews, nothing on other sites. So what was the deal? Is Discovery so
    holy/their PR machine so sweeping that such bungles go unreported? Who
    was driving the car? Yates right? Seems like a potentially pretty big
    director sportifing oversight in a race of this magnitude. Any further
    info on this incident?

  2. On 6/7/05 8:16 PM, in article
    [email hidden], "commandotempo"

    Quoted message said:

    My humblest apologies if this thread has already been sewn, but I
    hadn't seen anything on it and was looking for confirmation:

    Quoted message said:

    From IHT May 30:


    "Salvodelli was unhappy because team support staff were not in place to
    hand him food on the climb.

    Feed on climb??
    That is what your wife/GF is for...............duh!!!!

    Quoted message said:

    "'In between that climb (Finestre), the descent and then the climb to
    Sestrieres, it was almost two hours of effort without being able to eat
    anything.'"
    As Salvodelli battled with hunger and gesticulated angrily at his team
    car..."

    I didn't see the race on tv, I saw nothing of this on cyclingnews,
    velonews, nothing on other sites. So what was the deal? Is Discovery so
    holy/their PR machine so sweeping that such bungles go unreported? Who
    was driving the car? Yates right? Seems like a potentially pretty big
    director sportifing oversight in a race of this magnitude. Any further
    info on this incident?

  3. commandotempo said:

    My humblest apologies if this thread has already been sewn, but I
    hadn't seen anything on it and was looking for confirmation:

    Quoted message said:

    From IHT May 30:


    "Salvodelli was unhappy because team support staff were not in place to
    hand him food on the climb.
    "'In between that climb (Finestre), the descent and then the climb to
    Sestrieres, it was almost two hours of effort without being able to eat
    anything.'"
    As Salvodelli battled with hunger and gesticulated angrily at his team
    car..."

    it was a ploy to make savoldelli lose the giro to keep his ambitions in
    check.

    just like bruyneel didn't give heras the good TT helmet at the vuelta
    and take him to the wind tunnel.

  4. commandotempo said:

    My humblest apologies if this thread has already been sewn, but I
    hadn't seen anything on it and was looking for confirmation:

    Quoted message said:

    From IHT May 30:


    "Salvodelli was unhappy because team support staff were not in place to
    hand him food on the climb.
    "'In between that climb (Finestre), the descent and then the climb to
    Sestrieres, it was almost two hours of effort without being able to eat
    anything.'"
    As Salvodelli battled with hunger and gesticulated angrily at his team
    car..."

    http://groups.google.co.nz/group/rec.bicycles.racing/msg/2d64867e8266a58c?hl=en

    Maybe the Salvodelli dude was annoyed that the Savoldelli dude got his
    food, drinks and wheels...

  5. commandotempo said:


    Quoted message said:

    From IHT May 30:


    "Salvodelli was unhappy because team support staff were not in place to
    hand him food on the climb.
    "'In between that climb (Finestre), the descent and then the climb to
    Sestrieres, it was almost two hours of effort without being able to eat
    anything.'"
    As Salvodelli battled with hunger and gesticulated angrily at his team
    car..."

    I didn't see the race on tv, I saw nothing of this on cyclingnews,
    velonews, nothing on other sites. So what was the deal?

    I saw the stage on TV. Savoldelli had either tossed or lost his water
    bottles at the bottom of the Finestre and after the Simoni group had
    attacked was trying to get his car up to him. The motocam kept focusing on
    his empty bottle cages and then panning over to the bike next to him, with
    bottles in the cages. Yeah, after the first shot we got it. The road was
    narrow and there were riders strung out down the road so although the car
    eventually got up to within one switchback, it couldn't get any closer.
    Savoldelli had some gel packets in his pocket and sucked on those. I hate
    doing that without water to wash that stuff down. Finally he reached
    someone who'd been positioned part way up the climb with water bottles and
    spare wheels (no close-up of the wheels, but I wondered if they were
    cyclocross-like in case the top of the climb was wet). I didn't see any
    other team have help stationed up the climb but until I read Ewoud's post
    I'd figured that all of them had; I was surprised to learn that they
    hadn't.

    The other reason he might've been gesticulating is because he was trying
    to get the team to pay more to Ardila and Van Huffel.

  6. Robert Chung said:

    The other reason he might've been gesticulating is because he was
    trying to get the team to pay more to Ardila and Van Huffel.

    You think Savoldelli might be more in touch with going rates than
    musselman Peiper?

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  7. Stewart Fleming said:

    http://groups.google.co.nz/group/rec.bicycles.racing/msg/2d64867e8266a58c?hl=en

    Quoted message said:

    Maybe the Salvodelli dude was annoyed that the Savoldelli dude got his
    food, drinks and wheels...

    That explains the water bottle. It was DeLuca not Di Luca that gave
    his team mate Salvodelli, not Savoldelli, the water bottle.

  8. Ewoud Dronkert said:
    Robert Chung said:

    The other reason he might've been gesticulating is because he was
    trying to get the team to pay more to Ardila and Van Huffel.

    You think Savoldelli might be more in touch with going rates than
    musselman Peiper?

    http://www.angelfire.com/realm/cvccbikers/ronde/Image18.jpg

  9. Robert Chung said:

    http://www.angelfire.com/realm/cvccbikers/ronde/Image18.jpg

    This one's better for several reasons:
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2002/aug02/zottegem/JJallan2.jpg

    And does he or doesn't he have mussels for sale? I guess we should ask
    the girl. You first.

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  10. Ewoud Dronkert said:
    Robert Chung said:

    http://www.angelfire.com/realm/cvccbikers/ronde/Image18.jpg

    This one's better for several reasons:
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2002/aug02/zottegem/JJallan2.jpg

    And does he or doesn't he have mussels for sale? I guess we should ask
    the girl. You first.

    JJ took that photo. Sorta makes you wonder what he left out.

  11. Robert Chung said:
    Quoted message said:

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2002/aug02/zottegem/JJallan2.jpg

    JJ took that photo. Sorta makes you wonder what he left out.

    The back of the stand, connected to the pharmacy?

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  12. Robert Chung said:
    commandotempo said:
    Quoted message said:

    From IHT May 30:

    "Salvodelli was unhappy because team support staff were not in place to
    hand him food on the climb.
    "'In between that climb (Finestre), the descent and then the climb to
    Sestrieres, it was almost two hours of effort without being able to eat
    anything.'"
    As Salvodelli battled with hunger and gesticulated angrily at his team
    car..."

    I didn't see the race on tv, I saw nothing of this on cyclingnews,
    velonews, nothing on other sites. So what was the deal?

    I saw the stage on TV. Savoldelli had either tossed or lost his water
    bottles at the bottom of the Finestre and after the Simoni group had
    attacked was trying to get his car up to him. The motocam kept focusing on
    his empty bottle cages and then panning over to the bike next to him, with
    bottles in the cages. Yeah, after the first shot we got it. The road was
    narrow and there were riders strung out down the road so although the car
    eventually got up to within one switchback, it couldn't get any closer.
    Savoldelli had some gel packets in his pocket and sucked on those. I hate
    doing that without water to wash that stuff down. Finally he reached
    someone who'd been positioned part way up the climb with water bottles and
    spare wheels (no close-up of the wheels, but I wondered if they were
    cyclocross-like in case the top of the climb was wet). I didn't see any
    other team have help stationed up the climb but until I read Ewoud's post
    I'd figured that all of them had; I was surprised to learn that they
    hadn't.

    I think there was also at least one Lampre guy on the Finestre. Simoni
    got a hand-up during the dirt section of the climb. Looked to me like
    he - the Lampre bottle guy - had spare wheels also. I think perhaps
    Bruyneel was exaggerating a tad in his interview.

    Quoted message said:


    The other reason he might've been gesticulating is because he was trying
    to get the team to pay more to Ardila and Van Huffel.


    LOL :-)

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