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  1. Just as the buzz over the annual Copper River Salmon run
    (and unreal prices, that are now down to normal, whew!) is
    winding down, we in Seattle are now faced with the awesome
    Yukon River King Salmon.

    Without the hype of the Copper River Salmon, Yukon King
    Salmon are making one of their rare appearances in Seattle.
    Most of the annual catch wound up in Japan because they
    could afford the prices. With their economy in the dumps,
    Seattle got its chance this year. Priced lower than Copper
    River Kings, this one is about 15% higher in fat content.

    A basic primer. Salmon build up a store of fat while in the
    ocean, to prepare themselves for their journey up the river
    and streams of their "birth". The longer the river, the
    higher the amount of fat stored.

    The Copper River is about 350 miles while the Yukon is about
    2,300 miles. In either case, the best fish is caught at the
    mouth of the river, not after it has lost much of its fat
    heading upstream.

    I bought a pound of it, and grilled it with no condiments. I
    placed it on a bed of sorrel sauce (courtesy of Elisabeth).
    What can I say. It was fantastic. While I admit that most of
    the country is happy when they receive farmed salmon, or
    lesser quality of wild salmon, we are quite fortunate in
    Seattle to receive some seriously good salmon.

    For those in Seattle wanting to try some, you can buy it at
    Mutual Fish, Uwajimaya and Metropolitan Markets.

    Here is the sorrel sauce recipe:

    * Exported from MasterCook *

    Salmon in sorrel sauce ("Saumon a l'oseille"😉

    Recipe By : Elisabeth Bouynot Serving Size : 2
    Preparation Time :0:00 Categories : Dinner Fish French
    Lunch Main Dish Seafood

    Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method --------
    ------------ -------------------------------- 600 ml
    fumet de poisson (fish broth) 175 ml heavy cream 50 ml
    dry white vermouth (Noilly-Prat or similar) 2 shallots --
    finely chopped Sorrel (the various recipes I have go from
    "a few leaves" to 500 grams) 75 g butter Juice of 1/2
    lemon 400 grams salmon fillet

    Put together in a pan the fish broth, the shallots, the
    vermouth and half the cream. Bring to a strong boil and
    reduce to a quarter of the original volume.

    Meanwhile, wash and dry the sorrel, remove the stalks and
    cut the leaves in very thin shreds.

    When the reduction is finished, add the rest of the cream,
    the butter, and the sorrel (keep a few shreds for decor).
    Reduce a bit more, add the lemon, salt to taste and serve
    over (or under) salmon.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    --
    Alan

    "If you reject the food, ignore the customs, fear the relig-
    ion, and avoid the people, you might better stay home."
    -- James Michener

  2. alzelt said:

    Just as the buzz over the annual Copper River Salmon run
    (and unreal prices, that are now down to normal, whew!) is
    winding down, we in Seattle are now faced with the awesome
    Yukon River King Salmon.

    We've got some of the later here in Austin right now. The
    fillets are about 2ft long and a full 18" across. Quite
    impressive.

    -sw

  3. Thanks for the tip, Alan. I might stop at MM and try some of
    that Yukon River stuff.

    I'm not sure if I would like the sorrel sauce however.
    Putting a cream and butter based sauce on a fatty salmon
    might be too rich for my taste. Perhaps the sorrel and lemon
    add enough piquancy to counter the fat. But the nutrition
    professor in residence would have a fit.

    Our only experience with sorrel came via some Jamaican
    friends who live in Florida. They make an infusion from
    fresh sorrel leaves, and serve it as a refreshing iced
    drink. We really liked it, so they gave us a big bag of
    leaves to take home. Unfortunately, sorrel does not
    travel well. When we unpacked it, it was well on its way
    to compost.

    The current issue of Cook's Illustrated has an article on
    grilling salmon, with some good tips. They also provide a
    couple of recipes for simple marinades and glazes. One of
    them included only maple syrup and soy sauce. We tried it
    and liked the results. I was worried that it would taste too
    much like pancakes, but that was not the case.

    --
    Julian Vrieslander

  4. Steve Wertz said:
    alzelt said:

    Just as the buzz over the annual Copper River Salmon run
    (and unreal prices, that are now down to normal, whew!) is
    winding down, we in Seattle are now faced with the awesome
    Yukon River King Salmon.

    We've got some of the later here in Austin right now. The
    fillets are about 2ft long and a full 18" across. Quite
    impressive.

    -sw


    WF recently bought a Seattle seafood company. I think that
    is the first result of this buyout that you are seeing.
    Great news for Texans. Sure beats eating beef barbecue. 🙂
    --
    Alan

    "If you reject the food, ignore the customs, fear the relig-
    ion, and avoid the people, you might better stay home."
    -- James Michener

  5. In article
    <[email hidden]>
    ,

    Julian Vrieslander said:

    Thanks for the tip, Alan. I might stop at MM and try some
    of that Yukon River stuff.

    I'm not sure if I would like the sorrel sauce however.
    Putting a cream and butter based sauce on a fatty salmon
    might be too rich for my taste. Perhaps the sorrel and
    lemon add enough piquancy to counter the fat. But the
    nutrition professor in residence would have a fit.

    I'm not much for cream sauces on anything, not just on
    salmon.

    Quoted message said:


    Our only experience with sorrel came via some Jamaican
    friends who live in Florida. They make an infusion from
    fresh sorrel leaves, and serve it as a refreshing iced
    drink. We really liked it, so they gave us a big bag of
    leaves to take home. Unfortunately, sorrel does not travel
    well. When we unpacked it, it was well on its way to
    compost.

    You're confusing sorrel with hibiscus. What Beverly gave
    us was hibiscus, which Jamaicans also call sorrel. What
    Alan probably means by sorrel is the tangy greens used to
    make schav.

    cj

    --
    C.J. Fuller

    Delete the obvious to email me

  6. Julian Vrieslander <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Our only experience with sorrel came via some Jamaican
    friends who live in Florida. They make an infusion from
    fresh sorrel leaves, and serve it as a refreshing iced
    drink. We really liked it, so they gave us a big bag of
    leaves to take home. Unfortunately, sorrel does not travel
    well. When we unpacked it, it was well on its way to
    compost.

    It was likely not the same sorrel. The infusion from red
    flowers called "sorrel," which produces a beautiful
    red/purple drink is made from a type of hibiscus flower. In
    Spanish it's called "flor de jamaica." Ten Ren Tea also
    sells a tea based on this flower that they call "Roselle" or
    something like that. I have a suspicion that the name is a
    corruption of sorrel.

    The sorrel Alan refers to is probably a sour green leaf that
    falls apart and turns greyish when cooked. It forms the
    basis of an Eastern European soup called schav.

    -bwg Surrender Dorothy

  7. alzelt said:
    Steve Wertz said:
    alzelt said:

    Just as the buzz over the annual Copper River Salmon run
    (and unreal prices, that are now down to normal, whew!)
    is winding down, we in Seattle are now faced with the
    awesome Yukon River King Salmon.

    We've got some of the later here in Austin right now. The
    fillets are about 2ft long and a full 18" across. Quite
    impressive.

    Quoted message said:

    WF recently bought a Seattle seafood company. I think that
    is the first result of this buyout that you are seeing.
    Great news for Texans. Sure beats eating beef barbecue. 🙂

    This was at Central Market (A different Central Market than
    the one there in Seattle). They have a bunch of seafood
    from the Seattle area - like the oysters. At premium
    prices, though.

    -sw

  8. alzelt said:

    WF

    WF????

    Practice safe eating - always use condiments

  9. Hark! I heard Cindy Fuller <[email hidden]> say:

    Quoted message said:

    In article <julianvREMOVE_THIS_PART-
    [email hidden]>,
    Julian Vrieslander
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Our only experience with sorrel came via some Jamaican
    friends who live in Florida. They make an infusion from
    fresh sorrel leaves, and serve it as a refreshing iced
    drink. We really liked it, so they gave us a big bag of
    leaves to take home. Unfortunately, sorrel does not
    travel well. When we unpacked it, it was well on its way
    to compost.

    You're confusing sorrel with hibiscus. What Beverly gave
    us was hibiscus, which Jamaicans also call sorrel. What
    Alan probably means by sorrel is the tangy greens used to
    make schav.

    Do you mean this kind of sorrel, Cindy?:

    plants.usda.govplant profile.cgi

    As a 2nd grader at school on Hood Canal, my friends and I
    were always sneaking into the woods to eat some. Lovely
    taste, very tangy. We called it "sheep sorrel", but I
    believe that's a whole 'nother weed...

    --
    J.J. in WA (Change COLD to HOT for e-mail) ~ mom, vid
    gamer, novice cook ~ ..fish heads, fish heads, eat
    them up, yum!

  10. Cindy Fuller said:

    In article <julianvREMOVE_THIS_PART-
    [email hidden]> ,
    Julian Vrieslander

    Quoted message said:

    Thanks for the tip, Alan. I might stop at MM and try some
    of that Yukon River stuff.

    I'm not sure if I would like the sorrel sauce however.
    Putting a cream and butter based sauce on a fatty salmon
    might be too rich for my taste. Perhaps the sorrel and
    lemon add enough piquancy to counter the fat. But the
    nutrition professor in residence would have a fit.

    I'm not much for cream sauces on anything, not just
    on salmon.


    The lemon does its thing and offers up no problems for this
    sauce. And,it actually is the perfect sauce for this
    salmon. Also, don't forget there is some highly reduced
    fish stock as well.
    --
    Alan

    "If you reject the food, ignore the customs, fear the relig-
    ion, and avoid the people, you might better stay home."
    -- James Michener

  11. sf said:
    alzelt said:

    WF

    WF????

    Whole Foods. Or Hole Foods, because of the hole it leaves in
    your pocket/wallet.

    -sw

  12. byakee said:

    Do you mean this kind of sorrel, Cindy?:

    plants.usda.govplant profile.cgi
    bol=oxst

    As a 2nd grader at school on Hood Canal, my friends and I
    were always sneaking into the woods to eat some. Lovely
    taste, very tangy. We called it "sheep sorrel", but I
    believe that's a whole 'nother weed...

    We called it "sour clover" when I was a kid. I see small
    clumps every now and then in the yard.

    Brian Rodenborn

  13. Steve Wertz said:

    On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 19:02:36 GMT, sf

    Quoted message said:
    alzelt said:

    WF

    WF????

    Whole Foods.

    Thanks, I'm not good with acronyms.

    Practice safe eating - always use condiments

  14. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:
    sf said:
    alzelt said:

    WF

    WF????

    Whole Foods. Or Hole Foods, because of the hole it leaves
    in your pocket/wallet.

    -sw


    Otherwise known as Whole Paycheck.
    --
    Donna A pessimist believes all women are bad. An optimist
    hopes they are.

  15. Default User said:
    byakee said:

    Do you mean this kind of sorrel, Cindy?:

    plants.usda.govplant profile.cgi
    ol=oxst

    As a 2nd grader at school on Hood Canal, my friends and I
    were always sneaking into the woods to eat some. Lovely
    taste, very tangy. We called it "sheep sorrel", but I
    believe that's a whole 'nother weed...

    We called it "sour clover" when I was a kid. I see small
    clumps every now and then in the yard.


    The clover stuff is a kind of oxalis, isn't it? Not a
    true sorrel.

    modom

    "If you have a racist friend, Now is the time, now is the
    time For your friendship to end."
    -- The Specials

  16. Donna Rose said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Whole Foods. Or Hole Foods, because of the hole it leaves
    in your pocket/wallet.

    Quoted message said:

    Otherwise known as Whole Paycheck.

    You must be hanging out in ba.food - that's the only other
    place I've heard that :-)

    Come to think of it, I keep seeing you everywhere...

    -sw (paranoid)

  17. Michael Odom said:


    Default User said:
    byakee said:

    Do you mean this kind of sorrel, Cindy?:

    plants.usda.govplant profile.cgi
    l=oxst

    As a 2nd grader at school on Hood Canal, my friends and
    I were always sneaking into the woods to eat some.
    Lovely taste, very tangy. We called it "sheep sorrel",
    but I believe that's a whole 'nother weed...

    We called it "sour clover" when I was a kid. I see small
    clumps every now and then in the yard.


    The clover stuff is a kind of oxalis, isn't it? Not a
    true sorrel.

    Oxalis stricta L. according to the website above. I'm not
    much of a botanist. I recognized sour clover from the
    picture there and his description.

    Brian Rodenborn

  18. "Steve Wertz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Otherwise known as Whole Paycheck.

    Quoted message said:

    You must be hanging out in ba.food - that's the only other
    place I've heard that :-)

    Actually, Whole Paycheck is used a lot out here in Seattle
    even when speaking (i.e. not just in print).

    -Matt

  19. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:
    Donna Rose said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Whole Foods. Or Hole Foods, because of the hole it
    leaves in your pocket/wallet.

    Quoted message said:

    Otherwise known as Whole Paycheck.

    You must be hanging out in ba.food - that's the only other
    place I've heard that :-)

    Come to think of it, I keep seeing you everywhere...

    -sw (paranoid)

    Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean people aren't out
    to get you!

    (and actually, I heard it from someone my niece brought to a
    family dinner recently, who may or may not have heard it in
    ba.food - I didn't get to know him well enough to ask him
    what (if any) newsgroups he subscribes to. ) <g>
    --
    Donna A pessimist believes all women are bad. An optimist
    hopes they are.

  20. Steve Wertz said:
    Donna Rose said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Whole Foods. Or Hole Foods, because of the hole it
    leaves in your pocket/wallet.

    Quoted message said:

    Otherwise known as Whole Paycheck.

    You must be hanging out in ba.food - that's the only other
    place I've heard that :-)

    I've heard WF referred to as Whole Paycheck in
    houston.eats before.

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