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  1. It never ceases to amaze that track athletes will put a lifetime of effort into
    making the Olympic team and then ease up in the last ten meters of the most
    important races of their lives. I just finished watching Bernard Williams
    doing just that in the 200 meter final, and the only reason he still make the
    team was that runner number four also was pulling up.

    This is, of course, a chronic problem with young runners despite the coach's
    mantra of "Run through the line! Run through the line!" One would think
    runners would get it by the time they make international competition. Must be
    fighting some basic human tendency here.

    Paul

  2. So how many times have you been the one to break the finish line?

  3. [email hidden] (Bethowmuch) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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    So how many times have you been the one to break the finish line?

    He doesn't run, he's that guy in a trench coat hiding in the bushes.

  4. Quoted message said:

    It never ceases to amaze that track athletes will put a lifetime of effort
    into
    making the Olympic team and then ease up in the last ten meters of the most
    important races of their lives. I just finished watching Bernard Williams
    doing just that in the 200 meter final, and the only reason he still make the
    team was that runner number four also was pulling up.


    Are you sure he was pulling up because he was taking it easy? This was about
    the 4th 200 those guys ran, and if you go out too hard (all-out) in the first
    100 of a 200, you can run totally out of gas in the last 25-50m. I'm guessing
    that's what happened. Bernard Williams would have only relaxed if he didn't
    know that Patton was there (which is possible, of course).

    Lyndon
    "Speed Kills...It kills those that don't have it!" --US Olympic Track Coach
    Brooks Johnson


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    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    Are you sure he was pulling up because he was taking it easy? This was about
    the 4th 200 those guys ran, and if you go out too hard (all-out) in the first
    100 of a 200, you can run totally out of gas in the last 25-50m. I'm
    guessing
    that's what happened. Bernard Williams would have only relaxed if he didn't
    know that Patton was there (which is possible, of course).


    I wouldn't consider it taking it easy but what appears to be a natural
    tendency to ease up as you finish. In this case, he was lifting his head and
    shoulders and pulling back in a typical end-of-the-race fashion - except he
    still was a few meters short of the finish. Granted it's apples and oranges,
    but Marla Runyon would be an example of slowing as you run out of legs down the
    stretch. I would tend to attribute it more to lack of concentration (mental
    versus physical fatigue, perhaps). I don't doubt he was hurting after the
    heats and the heat. And I've discovered the hard way that it's always a good
    idea to assume somebody is coming right behind you. It wasn't a knock on
    Williams, it's just something I see a lot.

    On an unrelated topic, it's interesting to see all the jewelry flopping around
    on runners during the Trials. During a high school championship this Spring I
    saw one kid d-q'd for a stud earing and another for having a small colored
    barette in her hair.

    Paul

  6. "PaulM1125" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    It never ceases to amaze that track athletes will put a lifetime of effort


    into

    Quoted message said:

    making the Olympic team and then ease up in the last ten meters of the


    most

    Quoted message said:

    important races of their lives. I just finished watching Bernard Williams
    doing just that in the 200 meter final, and the only reason he still make


    the

    Quoted message said:

    team was that runner number four also was pulling up.

    This is, of course, a chronic problem with young runners despite the


    coach's

    Quoted message said:

    mantra of "Run through the line! Run through the line!" One would think
    runners would get it by the time they make international competition.


    Must be

    Quoted message said:

    fighting some basic human tendency here.

    Paul

    I think it was the women's 1500 where the woman in third looked like she
    backed off just a bit and the woman in 4th (Rudolph) got her at the line.

  7. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Are you sure he was pulling up because he was taking it easy? This was


    about

    Quoted message said:

    the 4th 200 those guys ran, and if you go out too hard (all-out) in the


    first

    Quoted message said:

    100 of a 200, you can run totally out of gas in the last 25-50m. I'm
    guessing
    that's what happened. Bernard Williams would have only relaxed if he didn't
    know that Patton was there (which is possible, of course).


    I wouldn't consider it taking it easy but what appears to be a natural
    tendency to ease up as you finish. In this case, he was lifting his head and
    shoulders and pulling back in a typical end-of-the-race fashion - except he
    still was a few meters short of the finish. Granted it's apples and oranges,
    but Marla Runyon would be an example of slowing as you run out of legs down
    the
    stretch. I would tend to attribute it more to lack of concentration (mental
    versus physical fatigue, perhaps). I don't doubt he was hurting after the
    heats and the heat. And I've discovered the hard way that it's always a good
    idea to assume somebody is coming right behind you. It wasn't a knock on
    Williams, it's just something I see a lot.


    In the sprints, there's something a little different called lifting. You have
    to sprint relaxed and let the speed come out as it's usually said. When you're
    spent, you must NOT push for more speed--you just slow down sooner. So there's
    the technique called lifting. You do not push to go faster, or lengthen your
    stride. You run erect, hold your form together, try to hold onto the speed you
    have, try to cycle your arms a little faster to keep your turnover up. This
    ends up looking a little like prancing, and this might have been what you saw.
    It's fairly common in the last 15 meters of a world class 100 or the last 25-50
    meters of a 200.

    Lyndon
    "Speed Kills...It kills those that don't have it!" --US Olympic Track Coach
    Brooks Johnson

  8. i ran through one time
    right into a pool of vomit the size of a large man hole cover
    zilla

    PaulM1125 said:


    It never ceases to amaze that track athletes will put a lifetime of effort into
    making the Olympic team and then ease up in the last ten meters of the most
    important races of their lives. I just finished watching Bernard Williams
    doing just that in the 200 meter final, and the only reason he still make the
    team was that runner number four also was pulling up.

    This is, of course, a chronic problem with young runners despite the coach's
    mantra of "Run through the line! Run through the line!" One would think
    runners would get it by the time they make international competition. Must be
    fighting some basic human tendency here.

    Paul

  9. gentolm <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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    i ran through one time
    right into a pool of vomit

    You Texas people are strange ones... here we fill our pools with H2O.

  10. [email hidden] (PaulM1125) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    It never ceases to amaze that track athletes will put a lifetime of effort into
    making the Olympic team and then ease up in the last ten meters of the most
    important races of their lives. I just finished watching Bernard Williams
    doing just that in the 200 meter final, and the only reason he still make the
    team was that runner number four also was pulling up.

    This is, of course, a chronic problem with young runners despite the coach's
    mantra of "Run through the line! Run through the line!" One would think
    runners would get it by the time they make international competition. Must be
    fighting some basic human tendency here.

    Paul

    The real reason for this is that tape accross the finish line, it's
    killed more than a few runners who boldly tried to push thier 100lb
    frames to run through it, and just ended up being clothslined. Sadly,
    they are just statistics now. This is the real reason for these
    electronic things, they save lives, tiny lives, but lives nonetheless.

  11. Lyndon said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    In the sprints, there's something a little different called lifting. You


    have
    to sprint relaxed and let the speed come out as it's usually said. When you're
    spent, you must NOT push for more speed--you just slow down sooner. So there's
    the technique called lifting. You do not push to go faster, or lengthen your
    stride. You run erect, hold your form together, try to hold onto the speed you
    have, try to cycle your arms a little faster to keep your turnover up. This
    ends up looking a little like prancing, and this might have been what you saw.
    It's fairly common in the last 15 meters of a world class 100 or the last 25-50
    meters of a 200.

    Well, my first impression still holds, but I won't discount the
    possibility/probability of being wrong since my knowledge of sprinting
    technique is practically zilch.

    To turn it the other way around and consider the real hard chargers for the
    finish line, is it more productive to lower one's head and dive at the line or
    remain more upright and lean with the chest at the last second? It would seem
    to be the latter but you see a lot of runners diving pretty early.

    Paul

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