running the mile in PE class

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First the psycho writes:> I have always thought that it was a bad idea to

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grade students on how fast they can run the mile,

Then he writes:>but eliminating it

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is wrong.

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<< Then he writes:>but eliminating it

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is wrong. >>

Isn't that self-cancelling?

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I have seen that some schools are eliminating the mile run for
students in PE class. I have always thought that it was a bad idea to
grade students on how fast they can run the mile, but eliminating it
is wrong. Are there any PE teachers that still have the mile run as
part of the fitness testing?

Dan,

I am a PE major and agree with you that it is a bad idea to grade
students on how fast they run the mile. In my high school they still
had the mile run as part of the Presidential Fitness Tests. I think
what they should do instead of eliminating it, is to have the students
wear heart-rate monitors and tell them they must be in their target
heart rate zone for a set amount of time. If they don't, then they
will not get the points for that activity or however they are
evaluated for the day. Anyone else have any comments?

-Heather

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I have seen that some schools are eliminating the mile run for
students in PE class. I have always thought that it was a bad idea to
grade students on how fast they can run the mile, but eliminating it
is wrong. Are there any PE teachers that still have the mile run as
part of the fitness testing?

Our PE teachers (middle school) bring the kids out to the track and have
them do a mile - running or walking, students' choice. Participation in the
fitness test is optional and does include running.

Jenn

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I think
what they should do instead of eliminating it, is to have the students
wear heart-rate monitors and tell them they must be in their target
heart rate zone for a set amount of time.

Where would the schools get the money for HRMs?

(There's also the practical issue of the variability in MHR in the
population.)

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I have seen that some schools are eliminating the mile run for
students in PE class. I have always thought that it was a bad idea to
grade students on how fast they can run the mile, but eliminating it
is wrong. Are there any PE teachers that still have the mile run as
part of the fitness testing?

Dan,

I am a PE major and agree with you that it is a bad idea to grade
students on how fast they run the mile. In my high school they still
had the mile run as part of the Presidential Fitness Tests. I think
what they should do instead of eliminating it, is to have the students
wear heart-rate monitors and tell them they must be in their target
heart rate zone for a set amount of time. If they don't, then they
will not get the points for that activity or however they are
evaluated for the day. Anyone else have any comments?

-Heather

Screw the HR. For one thing that is an expense not many schools are going
to take on. Just have them run for as long as they want and whatever pace
they want just so they keep moving for 30 or 40 minutes. The less structure
and the less it seems like punishment the better.

Quoted message said:

I have seen that some schools are eliminating the mile run for
students in PE class. I have always thought that it was a bad idea to
grade students on how fast they can run the mile, but eliminating it
is wrong. Are there any PE teachers that still have the mile run as
part of the fitness testing?

Come to California.

My oldest son ran the mile for time in PE starting in sixth grade. And seventh
grade. This was not part of a presidential fitness test, and it was done
several times (for time) during the school year. No thoughts of eliminating
it. My youngest was able to run a mile (not timed or graded) in his school
running club (no kidding, there is a running club for grades 2-5) in second
grade.

Maybe this is part of the reason that California athletes kick everybody else's
butt by the time they're high school seniors (and the college recruiters coming
to the California State Meet know it).

Lyndon
"Speed Kills...It kills those that don't have it!" --US Olympic Track Coach
Brooks Johnson

Sam said:

Screw the HR. For one thing that is an expense not many schools are going
to take on. Just have them run for as long as they want and whatever pace
they want just so they keep moving for 30 or 40 minutes. The less structure
and the less it seems like punishment the better.

Using a HRM to guage exercise activity (not necessarily limited to running) is
part of the state curriculum guidelines for 7th grade PE in California. The
idea is to teach a life skill; In high school cross country we do not use HRMs.

BTW, we also have homework for PE in middle and high schools. This is a daily
activity log to try to encourage kids to do at least 20 min/day of exercise
activity outside of school to counteract the trend toward teenage obesity.

Lyndon
"Speed Kills...It kills those that don't have it!" --US Olympic Track Coach
Brooks Johnson

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<< several times (for time) >>

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<< Then he writes:>but eliminating it

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is wrong. >>

Isn't that self-cancelling?

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<< > Isn't that self-cancelling?

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I'm a fifth grade teacher in a suburban elementary school. Our fourth and
fifth graders work up to running the mile, and our PE teacher does use heart
rate monitors with them. The teacher was able to get the monitors by
writing an educational grant that covered the expense.

My own children ran a mile every Friday throughout middle school in this
same school district. Students could run or walk but most chose to run.
Since they were doing it every week it became quite a competition. My son
who is now an eighth grader reports his mile times to us every week. He is
a soccer player, and Fridays are the only time that he runs simply for the
sake of running. He likes it.

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I have seen that some schools are eliminating the mile run for
students in PE class. I have always thought that it was a bad idea to
grade students on how fast they can run the mile, but eliminating it
is wrong. Are there any PE teachers that still have the mile run as
part of the fitness testing?

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Heather M said:

I think
what they should do instead of eliminating it, is to have the students
wear heart-rate monitors and tell them they must be in their target
heart rate zone for a set amount of time.

Where would the schools get the money for HRMs?

(There's also the practical issue of the variability in MHR in the
population.)

And they would have to be "cross-talk" free HRM as well. But why does
exercise need to be this high-tech. Get moving in fun activities that
improve strength, endurance, agility, and coordination.

Perhaps knowing how the heart functions and how it responds to exercise is a
useful life skill but it can be measured manually. And a lot of younger
children could use the extra practice with arithmetic. How about we save
taxpayer dollars?

At my 9 year old's Elementary School they have a running program where
3 days a week they run as many laps as they can. After they get 20
laps 5 miles they get a foot. Each child receive a prize at the end of
the year and those with the highest miles receives a high mileage
t-shirt. We have an organization here called the Rapides Junior
Runners - 5 & under run 1/2 Mile, 6-10 run 1 mile, and 11 and over run
2 miles. Each child that crosses the finish line receives a medal and
they award trophies to the top 3 in each age group and by male or
female. Check out more by visiting www.getfitcenla.org

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