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  1. It is hot here in Phoenix (104 today) and I've now switched to my
    "summer running schedule." You might think that means running at the
    crack of dawn but unfortunately, I despise running in the morning.
    That leaves only during lunch at work or after work just before it
    gets dark. I have one friend so far who's agreed to try running at
    lunch but last week on our 5 mile loop (it was in the 90's) he dropped
    way back and we had to walk a lot to make it in. We'll try 3 miles
    next week. I felt good because he's 13 years younger than me with much
    less body fat than I have. Any ideas to get some more folks interested
    in "running in the heat?"

  2. g.robrriv said:

    Any ideas to get some more folks interested in "running
    in the [104F Phoenix, AZ] heat?"

    You could all watch "Running on the Sun", the documentary video about
    the running of the Badwater ultramarathon - a 135 mile race with
    13,000 feet of elevation gain where ambient temps reach around 130F.
    Five miles in a hundred and four degrees gotta seem easier after that.

    Really, over 100F is no joke. I love the heat and summer running but
    it's hard to fault anyone for not wanting to run in triple digit
    temps, even if that comes with single digit humidity.

  3. Its incredibly hot here too in India and humid where I am.

    We have a choice : in the morning its relatively cooler but more humid
    than in the evening. I prefer the morning cool over the evening heat
    albeit less humidity.

    I carry a small bottle with me to splash water and limit my runs to 1
    hr max.

    I recently measured my weight loss after a 30 min run in the evening -
    it was about 1.2 %. In such a scenario, I prefer to be cautious to
    avoid heat injury.

  4. Charlie Pendejo said:
    g.robrriv said:

    Any ideas to get some more folks interested in "running
    in the [104F Phoenix, AZ] heat?"

    You could all watch "Running on the Sun", the documentary video about
    the running of the Badwater ultramarathon - a 135 mile race with
    13,000 feet of elevation gain where ambient temps reach around 130F.
    Five miles in a hundred and four degrees gotta seem easier after that.

    Really, over 100F is no joke. I love the heat and summer running but
    it's hard to fault anyone for not wanting to run in triple digit
    temps, even if that comes with single digit humidity.

    My favorite temperature is around 80F, and it's still enjoyable up until
    around 85F. You'll still sweat, but your energy and nutrients won't be
    zapped to hell by it.

    --

    ______________________________________________
    Alric Knebel
    http://www.ironeyefortress.com/C-SPAN_loon.html
    http://www.ironeyefortress.com

  5. It's hot in the desert.

    OK, thanks Mister Obvious.........I'll file that data so I don't forget.

  6. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    It is hot here in Phoenix (104 today) and I've now switched to my
    "summer running schedule." You might think that means running at the
    crack of dawn but unfortunately, I despise running in the morning.
    That leaves only during lunch at work or after work just before it
    gets dark. I have one friend so far who's agreed to try running at
    lunch but last week on our 5 mile loop (it was in the 90's) he dropped
    way back and we had to walk a lot to make it in. We'll try 3 miles
    next week. I felt good because he's 13 years younger than me with much
    less body fat than I have. Any ideas to get some more folks interested
    in "running in the heat?"


    Be very careful. You can really hurt yourself running
    in the high heat.

    S.

  7. Miss Anne Thrope said:

    It's hot in the desert.

    OK, thanks Mister Obvious.........I'll file that data so I don't forget.

    Maybe he could tell you how to use the ellipsis. Then you could store
    THAT in your data.

    --

    ______________________________________________
    Alric Knebel
    http://www.ironeyefortress.com/C-SPAN_loon.html
    http://www.ironeyefortress.com

  8. In article <[email hidden]>, Miss Anne
    Thrope <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    It's hot in the desert.

    OK, thanks Mister Obvious.........I'll file that data so I don't forget.


    In your haste to think of something insulting to say, you are forgetting
    that this is an international newsgroup that can be read by any one any
    where in the world. Full marks to the poster for not thinking that his
    home city is the centre of the universe.

    is it hot in the desert? I recollect the Special Air Service being
    unprepared for snow in Iraq.
    --
    Ken

  9. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Ken said:

    is it hot in the desert? I recollect the Special Air Service being
    unprepared for snow in Iraq.

    Most of the arctic is a desert. But listen, in general if
    you find someone's posts to be pretty consistently worthless
    it seems odd to me to continue to read them. If your
    newsreader doesn't support killfiles/filters, find a new
    newsreader.
    --
    Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - [email hidden]

    Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community

  10. Ken said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, Miss Anne
    Thrope <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    It's hot in the desert.

    OK, thanks Mister Obvious.........I'll file that data so I don't forget.


    In your haste to think of something insulting to say, you are forgetting
    that this is an international newsgroup that can be read by any one any
    where in the world. Full marks to the poster for not thinking that his
    home city is the centre of the universe.

    is it hot in the desert? I recollect the Special Air Service being
    unprepared for snow in Iraq.

    The original posters comment wasn't even about the heat of the desert.
    He was remarking about HEAT, and the desert happened to be where HE was
    experiencing it. But in the [censored]'s hairtrigger need to do his
    misanthropic shtick, he overlooked the obvious point to construe
    Robrriv's comments into something ridiculous, then ridiculed his own
    ridiculous point as if that's what Robrriv's intended to say. It's a
    boring shtick, but with a mind like HE possesses, who can blame him for
    loving it.

    --

    ______________________________________________
    Alric Knebel
    http://www.ironeyefortress.com/C-SPAN_loon.html
    http://www.ironeyefortress.com

  11. Melinda Shore said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Ken said:

    is it hot in the desert? I recollect the Special Air Service being
    unprepared for snow in Iraq.

    Most of the arctic is a desert. But listen, in general if
    you find someone's posts to be pretty consistently worthless
    it seems odd to me to continue to read them. If your
    newsreader doesn't support killfiles/filters, find a new
    newsreader.

    Sometimes it's like looking at a train wreck. You just want to see just
    big -- and consistent -- and [censored] is going to be. Myself, I enjoy
    mocking him too much to killfile him. It amazes me how a person deals
    with his limitations, and how tireless he is in showing it off to
    others. One guy who seemed to like him so much, he made damned sure I
    didn't ignore him, said in another post to the newsgroup nitwit that he
    ought to write to for THE COLBERT REPORT. Now, I look at that comment
    and think, Jesus, is this guy clueless or what? So I responded
    something to the effect that, "Yeah, right. And if you put a tutu on a
    fire hydrant you can call it a ballet dancer." Now to me, THAT'S funny.
    Miss Thrope's biggest fan didn't lavish praise on MY wit.

    Trolls are funny.

    --

    ______________________________________________
    Alric Knebel
    http://www.ironeyefortress.com/C-SPAN_loon.html
    http://www.ironeyefortress.com

  12. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Alric Knebel [email protected] said:

    Sometimes it's like looking at a train wreck. You just want to see just
    big -- and consistent -- and [censored] is going to be.

    People who reward trolls by paying attention to them tend to
    compound the problem by encouraging trolls to post more.
    They (you) are known as "buttsniffers."
    --
    Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - [email hidden]

    Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community

  13. Melinda Shore said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Alric Knebel [email protected] said:

    Sometimes it's like looking at a train wreck. You just want to see just
    big -- and consistent -- and [censored] is going to be.

    People who reward trolls by paying attention to them tend to
    compound the problem by encouraging trolls to post more.
    They (you) are known as "buttsniffers."

    And you just sniffed MINE. Thanks. Is it the rutting season, or were
    you being spontaneous?

    --

    ______________________________________________
    Alric Knebel
    http://www.ironeyefortress.com/C-SPAN_loon.html
    http://www.ironeyefortress.com

  14. Melinda Shore said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Alric Knebel [email protected] said:

    Sometimes it's like looking at a train wreck. You just want to see just
    big -- and consistent -- and [censored] is going to be.

    People who reward trolls by paying attention to them tend to
    compound the problem by encouraging trolls to post more.
    They (you) are known as "buttsniffers."

    And one more thing: Have YOU killfiled Thrope?

    --

    ______________________________________________
    Alric Knebel
    http://www.ironeyefortress.com/C-SPAN_loon.html
    http://www.ironeyefortress.com

  15. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Alric Knebel [email protected] said:

    And one more thing: Have YOU killfiled Thrope?

    Yeah, I have, and several other people. Keep sniffing troll
    butt and you'll join them. There are some real gems here in
    this sludge, and if you filter out the sludge and ignore the
    juvenile [censored] from some of the others this is a really great
    newsgroup.
    --
    Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - [email hidden]

    Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community

  16. Melinda Shore said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Alric Knebel [email protected] said:

    And one more thing: Have YOU killfiled Thrope?

    Yeah, I have, and several other people. Keep sniffing troll
    butt and you'll join them. There are some real gems here in
    this sludge, and if you filter out the sludge and ignore the
    juvenile [censored] from some of the others this is a really great
    newsgroup.

    You seem really into killfiles. I agree that they can be useful. For
    posters who lack the restraint to avoid getting into fights with the
    trolls, perhaps they are essential.

    But it's even better if one can simply get past getting angry or
    frustrated with them. I find myself not really needing killfiles
    for the most part. I only read troll posts when I need some silly
    entertainment, and generally don't reply to them.

    I don't think there's any way (e.g. ignoring them per the "conventional
    wisdom) to make our local trolls go away. They are incredibly persistent
    (which is kind of sad... but I digress).

    Cheers,
    --
    Elflord

  17. Melinda Shore said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Alric Knebel [email protected] said:

    And one more thing: Have YOU killfiled Thrope?

    Yeah, I have, and several other people. Keep sniffing troll
    butt and you'll join them. There are some real gems here in
    this sludge, and if you filter out the sludge and ignore the
    juvenile [censored] from some of the others this is a really great
    newsgroup.

    Thank you for saying so. I'll killfile him too.

    --

    ______________________________________________
    Alric Knebel
    http://www.ironeyefortress.com/C-SPAN_loon.html
    http://www.ironeyefortress.com

  18. Elflord said:
    Melinda Shore said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Alric Knebel [email protected] said:

    And one more thing: Have YOU killfiled Thrope?

    Yeah, I have, and several other people. Keep sniffing troll
    butt and you'll join them. There are some real gems here in
    this sludge, and if you filter out the sludge and ignore the
    juvenile [censored] from some of the others this is a really great
    newsgroup.

    You seem really into killfiles. I agree that they can be useful. For
    posters who lack the restraint to avoid getting into fights with the
    trolls, perhaps they are essential.

    But it's even better if one can simply get past getting angry or
    frustrated with them. I find myself not really needing killfiles
    for the most part. I only read troll posts when I need some silly
    entertainment, and generally don't reply to them.

    I don't think there's any way (e.g. ignoring them per the "conventional
    wisdom) to make our local trolls go away. They are incredibly persistent
    (which is kind of sad... but I digress).

    Cheers,

    Hey, one of the things that went unnoticed was, old Thrope actually
    changed how he was using the ellipsis. It's something I mocked him
    about a couple of times. That means he didn't like someone mocking him
    for their own entertainment. I love that, when I out-troll the trolls.

    --

    ______________________________________________
    Alric Knebel
    http://www.ironeyefortress.com/C-SPAN_loon.html
    http://www.ironeyefortress.com

  19. In article <[email hidden]>, alric@[cableone.net]
    says...

    Quoted message said:
    Elflord said:
    Melinda Shore said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    Alric Knebel <alric@[cableone.net]> wrote:

    >And one more thing: Have YOU killfiled Thrope?

    Yeah, I have, and several other people. Keep sniffing troll
    butt and you'll join them. There are some real gems here in
    this sludge, and if you filter out the sludge and ignore the
    juvenile [censored] from some of the others this is a really great
    newsgroup.

    You seem really into killfiles. I agree that they can be useful. For
    posters who lack the restraint to avoid getting into fights with the
    trolls, perhaps they are essential.

    But it's even better if one can simply get past getting angry or
    frustrated with them. I find myself not really needing killfiles
    for the most part. I only read troll posts when I need some silly
    entertainment, and generally don't reply to them.

    I don't think there's any way (e.g. ignoring them per the "conventional
    wisdom) to make our local trolls go away. They are incredibly persistent
    (which is kind of sad... but I digress).

    Cheers,

    Hey, one of the things that went unnoticed was, old Thrope actually
    changed how he was using the ellipsis. It's something I mocked him
    about a couple of times. That means he didn't like someone mocking him
    for their own entertainment. I love that, when I out-troll the trolls.


    You should put that on your resume.

    S.

  20. samson said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, alric@[cableone.net]
    says...

    Quoted message said:
    Elflord said:

    On 2007-05-15, Melinda Shore <[email hidden]> wrote:

    >In article <[email hidden]>,
    >Alric Knebel <alric@[cableone.net]> wrote:
    >
    >
    >>And one more thing: Have YOU killfiled Thrope?
    >
    >Yeah, I have, and several other people. Keep sniffing troll
    >butt and you'll join them. There are some real gems here in
    >this sludge, and if you filter out the sludge and ignore the
    >juvenile [censored] from some of the others this is a really great
    >newsgroup.

    You seem really into killfiles. I agree that they can be useful. For
    posters who lack the restraint to avoid getting into fights with the
    trolls, perhaps they are essential.

    But it's even better if one can simply get past getting angry or
    frustrated with them. I find myself not really needing killfiles
    for the most part. I only read troll posts when I need some silly
    entertainment, and generally don't reply to them.

    I don't think there's any way (e.g. ignoring them per the "conventional
    wisdom) to make our local trolls go away. They are incredibly persistent
    (which is kind of sad... but I digress).

    Cheers,

    Hey, one of the things that went unnoticed was, old Thrope actually
    changed how he was using the ellipsis. It's something I mocked him
    about a couple of times. That means he didn't like someone mocking him
    for their own entertainment. I love that, when I out-troll the trolls.

    You should put that on your resume.

    If that was you version of smartass, you're out of your league.

    --

    ______________________________________________
    Alric Knebel
    http://www.ironeyefortress.com/C-SPAN_loon.html
    http://www.ironeyefortress.com

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