I would like to present you 2 races with 2 different concepts :
The Raid Dogon : It is a 126 kilometer stage foot race consisting of 4 half-marathons and 1 marathon at your own pace with no set time limit for finishing. There are refreshment stations every 10 kilometres (1 for the half- marathons and 3 for the full marathon). Each participant is required to carry at all times throughout the course the obligatory equipment as defined by the organization.
15 to 22/11/05 www.raidsafricain.fr.fm
The Mauritanienne race 200 It is a non-stop footrace of 200km, taking place in the region of Atar. Checkpoints are placed strategically throughout the race at approximately 20km intervals, at points by which competitors are required to pass. Maximum time allowed for completion: 75 hours
27/02/05 to 05/03/05 www.ifrance.com/association-trail91
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I would like to present you 2 races with 2 different concepts :
The Raid Dogon : It is a 126 kilometer stage foot race consisting of 4 half-marathons and 1 marathon at your own pace with no set time limit for finishing. There are refreshment stations every 10 kilometres (1 for the half- marathons and 3 for the full marathon). Each participant is required to carry at all times throughout the course the obligatory equipment as defined by the organization.
Why does this sound so inorganic to me? I'd never do an eco- tourist race like this. Anytime you go do something like this requiring so much 'support' and where you stand out from the locals so much, it strikes me as a little too 'rich westerner flies into the desert to run around'. lol.
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15 to 22/11/05 www.raidsafricain.fr.fm
The Mauritanienne race 200 It is a non-stop footrace of 200km, taking place in the region of Atar. Checkpoints are placed strategically throughout the race at approximately 20km intervals, at points by which competitors are required to pass. Maximum time allowed for completion: 75 hours
I like this kind of concept for a race. A little less eco- tourist and more serious - but time limit of 75 hours, thats way too much time to allow (though I don't know the terrain). But again what's the meaning of this race aside from being a 200km ultra with navigation. Maybe after I run 100 miles (if I can do that) I will understand this more. It still reeks of an eco-tourist race. Find em closer to home...
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27/02/05 to 05/03/05 www.ifrance.com/association-trail91
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I would like to present you 2 races with 2 different concepts :
The Raid Dogon : It is a 126 kilometer stage foot race consisting of 4 half-marathons and 1 marathon at your own pace with no set time limit for finishing. There are refreshment stations every 10 kilometres (1 for the half- marathons and 3 for the full marathon). Each participant is required to carry at all times throughout the course the obligatory equipment as defined by the organization.
15 to 22/11/05 www.raidsafricain.fr.fm
The Mauritanienne race 200 It is a non-stop footrace of 200km, taking place in the region of Atar. Checkpoints are placed strategically throughout the race at approximately 20km intervals, at points by which competitors are required to pass. Maximum time allowed for completion: 75 hours
27/02/05 to 05/03/05 www.ifrance.com/association-trail91
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Maybe it is just me but I think going to a place that is vastly different from where I live and trying to get through it as fast as one can is a bit stupid. What is wrong with exploring a place and getting a real feel for it? I've never been interested in doing one of those eco-challenges for that reason. If I am going to a magnificant place in the wilderness my aim is to savor my time there. Not see how fast I can get across it.
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I would like to present you 2 races with 2 different concepts :
The Raid Dogon : It is a 126 kilometer stage foot race consisting of 4 half-marathons and 1 marathon at your own pace with no set time limit for finishing. There are refreshment stations every 10 kilometres (1 for the half- marathons and 3 for the full marathon). Each participant is required to carry at all times throughout the course the obligatory equipment as defined by the organization.
Why does this sound so inorganic to me? I'd never do an eco-tourist race like this. Anytime you go do something like this requiring so much 'support' and where you stand out from the locals so much, it strikes me as a little too 'rich westerner flies into the desert to run around'. lol.
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It's your point of view, I have nothing to say against it...But you must admit that some runners like this concept (have you heard about "les foulées de la soie" in China ? 7th edition last year), it a way to concialiate running and tourism, so why not ???
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15 to 22/11/05 www.raidsafricain.fr.fm
The Mauritanienne race 200 It is a non-stop footrace of 200km, taking place in the region of Atar. Checkpoints are placed strategically throughout the race at approximately 20km intervals, at points by which competitors are required to pass. Maximum time allowed for completion: 75 hours
I like this kind of concept for a race. A little less eco- tourist and more serious - but time limit of 75 hours, thats way too much time to allow (though I don't know the terrain). But again what's the meaning of this race aside from being a 200km ultra with navigation. Maybe after I run 100 miles (if I can do that) I will understand this more. It still reeks of an eco-tourist race. Find em closer to home...
I've been working at the organization of this race for the 2 last editions...It's a beautiful one, organized jointly with mauritanians...We live together during 7 days, it's a real experience, human and athletic. No medias, hard conditions, hot temperature...Why 72 hours allowed ? Because it's opened to walkers...The last edition winner ran during about 35hours...The second one arrived 10 hours after ! Of course, Africa is far away but running the world is a passion for many runners...And the mauritanians landscapes are so beautiful...Everyone is so sad when it's time to leave...That's why I wanted to present this race in this forum, and the one in Mali which will be the first edition...:-)))
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I would like to present you 2 races with 2 different concepts :
The Raid Dogon : It is a 126 kilometer stage foot race consisting of 4 half-marathons and 1 marathon at your own pace with no set time limit for finishing. There are refreshment stations every 10 kilometres (1 for the half- marathons and 3 for the full marathon). Each participant is required to carry at all times throughout the course the obligatory equipment as defined by the organization.
Why does this sound so inorganic to me? I'd never do an eco-tourist race like this. Anytime you go do something like this requiring so much 'support' and where you stand out from the locals so much, it strikes me
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a little too 'rich westerner flies into the desert to run around'. lol.
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It's your point of view, I have nothing to say against it...But you must
admit that some runners like this concept (have you heard about "les foulées de la soie" in China ? 7th edition last year), it a way to concialiate running and tourism, so why not ???
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15 to 22/11/05 www.raidsafricain.fr.fm
The Mauritanienne race 200 It is a non-stop footrace of 200km, taking place in the region of Atar. Checkpoints are placed strategically throughout the race at approximately 20km intervals, at points by which competitors are required to pass. Maximum time allowed for completion: 75 hours
I like this kind of concept for a race. A little less eco- tourist and
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serious - but time limit of 75 hours, thats way too much time to allow (though I don't know the terrain). But again what's the meaning of this race aside from being a 200km ultra with navigation. Maybe after I run
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miles (if I can do that) I will understand this more. It still reeks of
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eco-tourist race. Find em closer to home...
I've been working at the organization of this race for the 2 last editions...It's a beautiful one, organized jointly with mauritanians...We live together during 7 days, it's a real experience, human and athletic. No medias, hard conditions, hot temperature...Why 72 hours allowed ? Because it's opened to walkers...The last edition winner ran during about 35hours...The second one arrived 10 hours after ! Of course, Africa is far away but running the world is a passion for many runners...And the mauritanians landscapes are so beautiful...Everyone is so sad when it's time to leave...That's why I wanted to present this race in this forum, and the one in Mali which will be the first edition...:-)))
Hey I can see how that would be a great time. You get to see a place in a way you never could otherwise. When I lived in India for a year I used to go out hiking and running the hills there and during that time I felt a kinship for the trails and the people there - and I also saw the gulf between me and them. The villagers there would be out stealing wood from the 'national forrest' as I did my trail runs, and sometimes I would spook them so bad dozens of them would scatter when they heard me running. I guess they thought I was some local offcial trying to bust them. That contrast left me feeling both blessed to be a 'westerner', and also realizing how out of place recreational trail running was in such a place...
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The Raid Dogon : It is a 126 kilometer stage foot race
Why does this sound so inorganic to me?
The Foreign Legion.
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Anytime you go do something like this requiring so much 'support' and where you stand out from the locals so much, it strikes me as a little too 'rich westerner flies into the desert to run around'.
Maybe it is just me but I think going to a place that is vastly different from where I live and trying to get through it as fast as one can is a bit stupid. What is wrong with exploring a place and getting a real feel for it?
There'll be plenty of exloring and feeling going on as a direct consequence of the adventure.
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If I am going to a magnificant place in the wilderness my aim is to savor my time there. Not see how fast I can get across it.
200 km (~125 miles) even at 2 MPH is still only 60 some-odd hours. I've done more than half that in less than half the time with plenty enough time left to even spend long periods just sitting and taking in the scenery on multiple breaks.
And the last time I did over 40 miles I had enough time to dine in a restaurant for breakfast, a restaurant/bar for a late afternoon lunch, another for dinner, take in a 2-3 hour movie, spend time lying in a field, more time wading and playing around in a river, yet more sitting in a small town and watching the scenery; take in a couple jogs ... and I STILL finished in under 15 hours.
Jogging in the hot African desert isn't recommended, unless ...
You can prove out the ability to do at least 10-20 miles, long sleeve shirt, long pants, double or triple layered, in at least 90 degrees, without breaking a sweat or losing any significant amount of water or any other ill effect (as, for instance, my 16 mile run on Monday at a humid 91 degrees).
