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  1. Running works! Yes indeed. I just received the report from my second
    annual Stress Echocardiogram. (History: Am 42 and had a blockage in my
    right coronary artery in Feb. '03. Was angiogramed and stented. Began
    exercising for cardiovascular health after that - not much of anything
    on a consistent basis before.)

    On the first Stress Echo treadmill test I was able to get to 12 minutes
    on the Bruce Protocol - just through level 4 at 6.75km/hr (4.2mph) and
    16% incline and barely being able to do 8.05km/hr (5mph) at 18% incline.
    My heart rate went from 70 to 166 during the test. (A notation states
    that I stopped due to leg fatigue.)

    Last week for my second Stress Echo I blew past my previous level and
    went mid-way into level 6 with 16 minutes, 2 seconds at 8.85km/hr (5.5)
    and 20% incline. Heart rate went from 63 to 178 and again it states I
    stopped due to leg fatigue.

    I probably could have done a little bit more, but running on a treadmill
    where you must hold the hand rail - by nurse's orders - plus wearing a
    tangle of EKG wires, a transmitter strapped to your waist and placing
    your forearm on the nurse's shoulder so she can take your blood pressure
    every few minutes sorta puts the skids on performing your best.

    The hardest part of the whole proceedure is after the treadmill portion
    is over. You must quickly lie down on the adjacent exam table to have
    the ultrasound performed. Keep in mind your heart is pounding, you're
    breathing very heavily, sweating pretty good and the technition asks you
    to let out your breath and hold it out - OUT! - for 3-5 seconds while
    she gets the images. Excruciating!

    Next year I'm determined to hit level 7 - the tech said that's the
    highest she's ever witnessed.

  2. Quoted message said:

    Next year I'm determined to hit level 7 - the tech said that's the
    highest she's ever witnessed.

    On my one and only sress test I did a 9. They kicked me out of their offices...

  3. In article <[email hidden]>,

    (TheBillRodgerz) said:
    Quoted message said:

    Next year I'm determined to hit level 7 - the tech said that's the
    highest she's ever witnessed.

    On my one and only sress test I did a 9. They kicked me out of their
    offices...

    Not surprising that a cardiologist's office would see lower levels -
    afterall, most of their patients are generally past the mid-life crisis
    point and probly have some indication of a bum ticker.

    I'm gonna train on a steep hill for a while prior to next year's test. I
    think that may be one of the defining factors for my results as I don't
    run too many hills on a regular basis - there seem to be a few different
    muscles involved. 🙂

  4. In article <[email hidden]>,
    Dadathome <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    Running works! Yes indeed. I just received the report from my second
    annual Stress Echocardiogram.


    <snip>

    That's great news. I'm glad for you.
    --
    Mel Rimmer

  5. Quoted message said:

    I don't
    run too many hills on a regular basis - there seem to be a few different
    muscles involved. 🙂

    Yes indeed, the biggest one being your heart. Running lots of very steep hills
    will do more for strengthining your heart than anything else I know.

  6. You obviously don't ride bikes. Idiot

    TGRRABR

    On 21 Aug 2004 14:40:40 GMT, [email hidden] (TheBillRodgerz)

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I don't
    run too many hills on a regular basis - there seem to be a few different
    muscles involved. 🙂

    Yes indeed, the biggest one being your heart. Running lots of very steep hills
    will do more for strengthining your heart than anything else I know.

  7. "Dadathome" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    (TheBillRodgerz) said:
    Quoted message said:

    Next year I'm determined to hit level 7 - the tech said that's the
    highest she's ever witnessed.

    On my one and only sress test I did a 9. They kicked me out of their
    offices...

    Not surprising that a cardiologist's office would see lower levels -
    afterall, most of their patients are generally past the mid-life crisis
    point and probly have some indication of a bum ticker.

    I'm gonna train on a steep hill for a while prior to next year's test. I
    think that may be one of the defining factors for my results as I don't
    run too many hills on a regular basis - there seem to be a few different
    muscles involved. 🙂

    I guess we all need goals, but training for a GXT seems pretty stupid.
    Sorry to be so negative.

  8. Quoted message said:

    I guess we all need goals, but training for a GXT seems pretty stupid.
    Sorry to be so negative.

    As big an [censored] as Sam is, I must agree with him in this instance.

  9. In article <[email hidden]>,
    TheBillRodgerz <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I guess we all need goals, but training for a GXT seems pretty stupid.
    Sorry to be so negative.

    As big an [censored] as Sam is, I must agree with him in this instance.

    It must be a day for agreeing with surprising people. I'm glad that
    Dadathome has improved his health and life expectancy, but it made me
    wonder whether he has compulsive type-A characteristics that contributed
    to his heart scare. Dadathome - keep up the running, you're doing great,
    but maybe sign up for a regular yoga class as well, and lighten up a
    little!
    --
    Mel Rimmer

  10. On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 16:57:28 -0700, Dadathome <[email hidden]>
    wrote:
    <snip>

    Quoted message said:


    I probably could have done a little bit more, but running

    They REALLY tried to discourage me from trotting, but I just can't
    walk that fast. My normal treadmill walk is 4.1mph. My normal walk is
    MUCH slower than that.

    Quoted message said:

    on a treadmill
    where you must hold the hand rail - by nurse's orders

    The heart doc I went to had a treadmill that didn't allow a full
    stride for a 6'2" man. If I ever have to get on the damned thing again
    I'm going to try and kick a hole in that idiotic plate.
    Would it be such a daunting problem to provide a sky-hook-harness to
    support the patient against falling so he wouldn't have to hang
    awkwardly onto the damn rail if he has to run?

    Quoted message said:

    - plus wearing a
    tangle of EKG wires, a transmitter strapped to your waist and placing
    your forearm on the nurse's shoulder so she can take your blood pressure
    every few minutes sorta puts the skids on performing your best.

    I didn't have to lean on her shoulder. I was under the impression that
    BP was being measured continuously by all the junk they had me
    wearing.

    I didn't receive chapter and verse on the statistics of my 'ordeal'. I
    got the impression that they didn't want me to know. My GP got the
    report and mentioned to me that I expereinced some 'ectopic' beats. I
    suspect that was the point they backed off on the procedure, but I
    don't know for sure.
    Earl

  11. "Earl Lewis" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    I didn't receive chapter and verse on the statistics of my 'ordeal'. I
    got the impression that they didn't want me to know. My GP got the
    report and mentioned to me that I expereinced some 'ectopic' beats. I
    suspect that was the point they backed off on the procedure, but I
    don't know for sure.
    Earl

    If you're in the USA, you have a right to a copy of your record.
    You might want to ask for it, it can make for interesting reading!
    Also get a copy of any letters or reports that the cardio doc
    may have sent to your gp. This applies to any other specialist visits or
    tests you may take, as well.
    bj

  12. TheBillRodgerz said:
    Quoted message said:

    I guess we all need goals, but training for a GXT seems pretty stupid.
    Sorry to be so negative.

    As big an [censored] as Sam is, I must agree with him in this instance.

    I doubt anybody in here is running to put bread on the table. Dat At
    Home is running for health and personal performance goals nobody else
    cares about, just like the rest of us. For a heart patient like Dad,
    it's not so unreasonable to think of each point on that test as another
    5 years to live.

  13. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Mel Rimmer said:

    It must be a day for agreeing with surprising people. I'm glad that
    Dadathome has improved his health and life expectancy, but it made me
    wonder whether he has compulsive type-A characteristics that contributed
    to his heart scare. Dadathome - keep up the running, you're doing great,
    but maybe sign up for a regular yoga class as well, and lighten up a
    little!

    🙂 I was really just seeing if I could yank any chains with the hill
    training comment. Being facetious.

    Though not a day goes by that I don't think about the heart stuff, I
    don't plan on training to beat the machine - Just trying to do the best
    I can to make life a little longer and of better quality.

  14. In article <[email hidden]>,

    timeOday said:

    I doubt anybody in here is running to put bread on the table. Dat At
    Home is running for health and personal performance goals nobody else
    cares about, just like the rest of us. For a heart patient like Dad,
    it's not so unreasonable to think of each point on that test as another
    5 years to live.

    Jeez, just 5 years per point? 🙂

    While I do think and worry about my heart health I'm just trying to
    become healthier to make my time with my family as long as possible. My
    own Dad died from a heart attack at 48 when I was 14. That loss left a
    hole that can never be filled by anyone else. I'm determined to do as
    much as I can to protect my own daughter from that pain.

    Thanks for understanding.

  15. << I don't plan on training to beat the machine - Just trying to do the best
    I can to make life a little longer and of better quality. >>

    good goals, indeed. 🙂 keep going!

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  16. << My own Dad died from a heart attack at 48 when I was 14.>>

    that's hard, i know.

    <<That loss left a hole that can never be filled by anyone else. I'm determined
    to do as much as I can to protect my own daughter from that pain. >>

    *hug* that's a wonderful gesture.

    \\ - - //
    ( @ @ )
    +--------oOOo-(_)--oOOo----+
    +------------------------Oooo----+

  17. Quoted message said:

    but it made me
    wonder whether he has compulsive type-A characteristics that contributed
    to his heart scare.

    I doubt it, I mean the guy's like 104, so he'd prolly be dead by now if that
    were true.

  18. Yuck. There's nothing more unsavory than a jogger with a glimmer of
    hope.

  19. Great!
    It does help, but is not perfect.
    The conventional wisdom is that running cuts the risk of deadly
    heart attacks by 50%.
    Generally serious runner heart attacks are rare enough that
    they often make the news.

  20. "rick++" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Great!
    It does help, but is not perfect.
    The conventional wisdom is that running cuts the risk of deadly
    heart attacks by 50%.
    Generally serious runner heart attacks are rare enough that
    they often make the news.

    It delays the inevitable. The only time I hear of a runner's death is when
    it happens during a marathon or other athletic event and even then it is
    usually not widely reported. I think statistically there will be one
    cardiac "event" per 500,000 runners during a road race.

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