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  1. Geri K in the Ultra list posted this article:

    I've run down this in November (with a dusting of snow in the upper
    elevations), and in those conditions it only took me about 1:11 to get to
    Phantom.

    What a difference 50 degrees makes...

    Ms. Bradley had finished about 30th woman in the Boston Marathon, in 3:04.

    =========================

    Autopsy: Runner died of dehydration at Grand Canyon|

    GRAND CANYON NATIONAL PARK, Ariz. (AP) - An autopsy showed that a marathoner
    whose body was found in the Grand Canyon last weekend died of dehydration,
    authorities said Tuesday.
    The Coconino County Medical Examiner's Office also ruled that the death of
    Margaret L. Bradley, 24, was accidental.
    Park rangers at the Grand Canyon recovered the body of the missing
    marathoner from Falmouth, Mass., after she failed to return from a nearly
    30-mile run in heat as high as 105 degrees.
    Bradley was found Saturday afternoon in a drainage area below the Tonto
    Trail, said park spokeswoman Maureen Oltrogge.
    Bradley and a companion had set out Thursday morning from Grandview
    Trailhead at the South Rim of Grand Canyon National Park.
    The two runners were headed to the Phantom Ranch at the bottom of the
    canyon, but became separated along the way.
    Bradley's family expected to meet her in Flagstaff on Friday. They reported
    her missing to police early Saturday morning and her body was found a few
    hours later.
    Bradley had been attending medical school at the University of Chicago.

  2. Dan Stumpus said:

    Geri K in the Ultra list posted this article:

    Quoted message said:

    I've run down this in November (with a dusting of snow in the upper
    elevations), and in those conditions it only took me about 1:11 to get to
    Phantom.

    Just curious, did you start at the Bright Angel or the South Kaibab trailhead?

    Quoted message said:

    What a difference 50 degrees makes...


    ....

    50 degrees is a lot.

    But, the story is pretty sad.

    July/August is typically the worst in Grand Canyon, in terms of heat.
    Also, the temperature down in the canyon is typically about 20 degrees
    more than what it is at the top.

    Dehydration should be the #1 concern under such circumstances.

    I wonder why her companion didn't try to find her?

    jobs

  3. <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I've run down this in November (with a dusting of snow in the upper
    elevations), and in those conditions it only took me about 1:11 to get


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Phantom.

    Just curious, did you start at the Bright Angel or the South Kaibab


    trailhead?

    Bright Angel.

    Quoted message said:

    July/August is typically the worst in Grand Canyon, in terms of heat.
    Also, the temperature down in the canyon is typically about 20 degrees
    more than what it is at the top.

    The morning I did it, it was about 30 f at the top, and was quite
    comfortable at the bottom. I did about 30 miles that day, and the climb
    back up was very, very hard, and the temp was only in the low 80's by then.
    A few of my friends did the entire 44 mile double crossing that day.

    At the top, I draped myself over a railing, exhausted. A ranger said he'd
    heard that someone was having trouble on the way up. I said: "That would
    be me!"

    Quoted message said:

    Dehydration should be the #1 concern under such circumstances.

    I wonder why her companion didn't try to find her?

    He might have assumed that as an experienced and accomplished (road) runner
    she was surely going to make it down. I would have never assumed it, and
    would have called Phantom as soon as I returned. But I would have carried
    90 oz of cytomax (with ice cubes), too...

    As Geri said: "You can die of stupidity no matter how fast or how smart you
    are."
    Although, we have no way of knowing what actually happened, and the poor
    woman cannot defend herself.

  4. Quoted message said:

    What a difference 50 degrees makes...

    This trail involves about 4,000 to 5,000 vertical feet, doesn't it? About 25
    years or so ago, my father and I did the Bright Angel trail in the hottest part
    of the summer (definitely triple digits), and we were both as red as lobsters
    and ready to die. As I recall, the air is stifling and breezeless, and doesn't
    circulate much, adding to the heat effect and it may even be low in oxygen.
    The rocks are like radiators, absorbing the heat and cooking everything around
    them. Why experienced runners who had the chance to run together would have
    separated is beyond me.

  5. Dan Stumpus said:
    Quoted message said:

    Just curious, did you start at the Bright Angel or the South Kaibab trailhead?

    Quoted message said:

    Bright Angel.

    very impressive.

    Quoted message said:

    As Geri said: "You can die of stupidity no matter how fast or how smart you
    are."

    absolutely agree.

    Quoted message said:

    Although, we have no way of knowing what actually happened, and the poor
    woman cannot defend herself.

    true.

  6. TopCounsel said:
    Quoted message said:

    What a difference 50 degrees makes...

    This trail involves about 4,000 to 5,000 vertical feet, doesn't it? About 25
    years or so ago, my father and I did the Bright Angel trail in the hottest part
    of the summer (definitely triple digits), and we were both as red as lobsters
    and ready to die.

    Am I the only one that does the Grand Canyon in respectable temperatures
    - when it's +20F in the canyon? We backpacked there during semester
    break in December a few decades ago. Had to chip ice off the springs in
    the morning and sleep with water bottles and boots to keep them from
    freezing. And the rangers had just told us there was lots of
    free-flowing water on the route 😉 (They were thinking in terms of not
    being dried up, not freezing in some unseasonably cold weather that
    seems to accompany me.)

    Dot

    --
    "Success is different things to different people"
    -Bernd Heinrich in Racing the Antelope

  7. "Dan Stumpus" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Geri K in the Ultra list posted this article:

    I've run down this in November (with a dusting of snow in the upper
    elevations), and in those conditions it only took me about 1:11 to get to
    Phantom.

    What a difference 50 degrees makes...

    Ms. Bradley had finished about 30th woman in the Boston Marathon, in 3:04.

    =========================

    Autopsy: Runner died of dehydration at Grand Canyon|

    GRAND CANYON NATIONAL PARK, Ariz. (AP) - An autopsy showed that a marathoner
    whose body was found in the Grand Canyon last weekend died of dehydration,
    authorities said Tuesday.
    The Coconino County Medical Examiner's Office also ruled that the death of
    Margaret L. Bradley, 24, was accidental.
    Park rangers at the Grand Canyon recovered the body of the missing
    marathoner from Falmouth, Mass., after she failed to return from a nearly
    30-mile run in heat as high as 105 degrees.
    Bradley was found Saturday afternoon in a drainage area below the Tonto
    Trail, said park spokeswoman Maureen Oltrogge.
    Bradley and a companion had set out Thursday morning from Grandview
    Trailhead at the South Rim of Grand Canyon National Park.
    The two runners were headed to the Phantom Ranch at the bottom of the
    canyon, but became separated along the way.
    Bradley's family expected to meet her in Flagstaff on Friday. They reported
    her missing to police early Saturday morning and her body was found a few
    hours later.
    Bradley had been attending medical school at the University of Chicago.

    Sorry, but anyone this stupid deserves to croak-off. I hope her MORON
    partner learned something too for leaving her behind.

  8. [email hidden] (TopCounsel) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    What a difference 50 degrees makes...

    This trail involves about 4,000 to 5,000 vertical feet, doesn't it? About 25
    years or so ago, my father and I

    No way! You got a father?

  9. Quoted message said:

    No way! You got a father?

    Odd how there used to be those kinds of families, huh? Dad is still kicking in
    his 70s. Gets his workouts on the elliptical and his many bikes now.

  10. [email hidden] (TopCounsel) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Odd how there used to be those kinds of families, huh?

    Familys? You had a family? I thought your species deserted their eggs at birth?

    Quoted message said:

    Dad is still kicking in
    his 70s.

    Untie him. Those are HIS ss checks, not yours.

  11. [email hidden] (TopCounsel) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Why experienced runners who had the chance to run together would have
    separated is beyond me.

    That's the part that gets me! What an idiot, I bet she feels real good about now.

  12. Other factors are altitude and rocky trails.
    The rim is 7,000 to 8,000 feet which can be a significant change for
    people from Chicago.
    I've down the round trip river hike a dozen times in the past couple
    decades. One of the easiest and fastest occurred after I had been
    living at altitude in Colorado, even though I was 20 years older than
    some of the earlier hikes.

    The three trails converging on Phantom Ranch are the least rocky
    of the trail system, tough it is possible to trip on loose stones
    and get knocked out if you arent careful.

  13. (rick++) said:

    Other factors are altitude and rocky trails.
    The rim is 7,000 to 8,000 feet which can be a significant change for
    people from Chicago.
    I've down the round trip river hike a dozen times in the past couple
    decades. One of the easiest and fastest occurred after I had been
    living at altitude in Colorado, even though I was 20 years older than
    some of the earlier hikes.

    The three trails converging on Phantom Ranch are the least rocky
    of the trail system, tough it is possible to trip on loose stones
    and get knocked out if you arent careful.

    Here's more information from our (National Park Service) Morning
    Report (affectionately known as the "gloom and doom" report.)

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++

    On Thursday, July 8th, Chicago resident Margaret L. Bradley, 24, and a
    companion began a day run from the South Rim on the Grandview Trail
    with the objective of crossing the Tonto Plateau and returning to the
    rim via the South Kaibab Trail – a 27-mile circuit. The runners had
    five quarts of water between them, but ran out sometime during
    mid-afternoon. At that point, Bradley and her companion decided to
    separate. She then attempted to make it down to Phantom Ranch to reach
    water and assistance; he spent the night in the canyon, suffering from
    dehydration and exhaustion, then managed to reach the South Kaibab
    Trail, where he sought the assistance of a USGS employee who was
    hiking out of the canyon. She used her satellite phone to contact park
    personnel and get directions to a water cache at Tipoff. No
    information was provided about their itinerary, nor that Bradley was
    missing. He believed that she’d gone on to Phantom Ranch, so asked a
    trail crew employee to leave a message at the ranch telling her that
    he’d abandoned his hike, but would shuttle her car back to the South
    Kaibab Trailhead for her return trip to Flagstaff. Bradley was
    reported missing to Flagstaff PD when she failed to meet her family
    there on Friday. Flagstaff PD then notified the park, where search
    efforts were immediately begun. Search dog handlers Marsha and Denny
    Bratcher from Page, Arizona, were flown to Grand Canyon by Glen Canyon
    NRA pilot Jim Traub. Ranger Chuck Sypher and court officer Jennifer
    Sypher interviewed Bradley’s companion in Flagstaff and were able to
    immediately relay information on where to focus search efforts. The
    park’s helicopter was launched, with pilot Mike Brinkworth, helicopter
    manager Mark Murray, paramedic Tom Clausing and helitacker Mark Peck
    on board. They located Bradley’s body in Cremation Creek between the
    Tonto Trail and the Colorado River, a thousand feet below the trail.
    Bradley had negotiated three pour-offs (dry waterfalls) while heading
    toward the river and apparently became stranded above a fourth
    pour-off which could not be negotiated. The Coconino Country medical
    examiner has determined her death to have been accidental, caused by
    dehydration due to environmental heat exposure. The temperature at
    Phantom Ranch on July 8th reached 105 degrees Fahrenheit. Bradley was
    in excellent physical condition, had been recently featured as an
    athlete of the month in a Chicago athlete magazine article, and had
    run the Boston Marathon with a time of 3:05. She had come to Northern
    Arizona for high altitude training. Running in the canyon is most
    popular in the fall months. Marc Yeston was incident commander.

    Mike Tennent
    "IronPenguin"

  14. Quoted message said:

    Familys? You had a family? I thought your species deserted their eggs at


    birth?

    Only the pipers in the family. The rest of us eat the eggs.

  15. [email hidden] (TopCounsel) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Only the pipers in the family. The rest of us eat the eggs.

    OMG man, you have pipers in the family? My condolences.
    Eat the eggs, or suck? :?)~

  16. Mike Tennent said:

    Here's more information from our (National Park Service) Morning
    Report (affectionately known as the "gloom and doom" report.)

    Mike, Thanks for filling in some facts.

    My first reaction when I read that is that 5 qts (160 oz total or 80 oz
    each) of water between the two seemed to be woefully underprepared. Then
    did some quick estimates, and I can easily see how they misjudged if
    they had no or minimal canyon or trail running experience (none of the
    articles give any clues about this).

    27 mi isn't *too* much farther than a marathon (yes, *I* know that 27 mi
    in GC is not *just* .8 mi farther than Boston marathon), and she ran a
    3:05 recently (no indication of his pace or experience that I saw). So
    they may have figured 4 hr would be more than enough. And 20 oz/hr is a
    rate that someone might be drinking in a cooler environment - but they
    didn't factor in the 100+F temps, perhaps thinking it wasn't that much
    hotter than Boston this year.

    Mother Nature can be very unforgiving when you don't respect her.

    Dot

    --
    "Success is different things to different people"
    -Bernd Heinrich in Racing the Antelope

  17. David said:

    They probably should have had about 3
    times the amount of water they had... or more. As Dot pointed out,
    marathon water requirements have little relationship to grand canyon
    water requirements. Anyway, it's a very sad story, but not an unfamiliar
    one. The canyon is merciless if you are not prepared. It's called a
    'park'... but it ain't Disneyland :-/

    An experienced GC runner in another group estimated that route would be
    at least 8 hr, and fluid use might be 40 oz/hr at 100+F = 320 oz apiece
    - although both vary a lot with each person. This gets back to what Doug
    and others keep saying about trail running and paces as well as
    learning your fluid requirements under similar conditions.

    Dot

    --
    "Success is different things to different people"
    -Bernd Heinrich in Racing the Antelope

  18. Quoted message said:

    My first reaction when I read that is that 5 qts (160 oz total or 80 oz
    each) of water between the two seemed to be woefully underprepared. Then
    did some quick estimates, and I can easily see how they misjudged if
    they had no or minimal canyon or trail running experience (none of the
    articles give any clues about this).

    Theres seven places to replenish water along the N. Kabib / Bright Angel route
    during the summer. I tke these into account when hiking.

  19. rick++ said:
    Quoted message said:

    My first reaction when I read that is that 5 qts (160 oz total or 80 oz
    each) of water between the two seemed to be woefully underprepared. Then
    did some quick estimates, and I can easily see how they misjudged if
    they had no or minimal canyon or trail running experience (none of the
    articles give any clues about this).

    Theres seven places to replenish water along the N. Kabib / Bright Angel route
    during the summer. I tke these into account when hiking.

    They ran down the Grandview and along the Tonto, but I think were
    planning on coming back up the Bright Angel. But if they didn't start
    til mid-morning (unless they were planning a Badwater-type training run
    which is designed to be in hottest part of summer and starts are as late
    as 10am), I'm wondering if they knew enough about what they were doing
    to know where there was water. A lot of things don't add up. I'm
    wondering if the guy will eventually provide more details so others
    won't make the same mistakes (notice plural).

    Dot

    --
    "Success is different things to different people"
    -Bernd Heinrich in Racing the Antelope

  20. [email hidden] (Dan Glyn) wrote in message news:

    "Hi, I'm a moron."

    Actually, Dan Glyn didn't write that, but may as well have. He

    actually said:

    Sorry, but anyone this stupid deserves to croak-off. I hope her MORON
    partner learned something too for leaving her behind.

    It was poor judgement. She was likely acclimated to heat, and likely
    quite confident in her conditioning. She ran well in hot Freihofers
    and generally ran well in hot conditions. I can't be certain, but I
    think this is a picture of her from Freihofers (runner in black with
    number partially obscured by her right arm. Nice lady; sad story.

    -----
    Jennefir

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