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  1. i know there are two types of runners with respect to wearing headphones whilst running... those
    that don't, please forgive me and move on... i never wear one during a race, just when training.

    to those that do, can i have any input as to whether ipods and other players that have hard drives
    in them stand up to the bounces of running. i run at a sub 9 minute pace and have tried every cd
    player and they all fail.

    now i use a nomad mp3 player which is all memory based and works flawlessly, but its time for a new
    toy (maybe FM radio build in). so, will an ipod or other such device work for me? let me know your
    experiences

    thx

  2. [email hidden] (run_now) wrote in
    :"]news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    i know there are two types of runners with respect to wearing headphones whilst running... those
    that don't, please forgive me and move on... i never wear one during a race, just when training.

    to those that do, can i have any input as to whether ipods and other players that have hard drives
    in them stand up to the bounces of running. i run at a sub 9 minute pace and have tried every cd
    player and they all fail.

    now i use a nomad mp3 player which is all memory based and works flawlessly, but its time for a
    new toy (maybe FM radio build in). so, will an ipod or other such device work for me? let me know
    your experiences

    thx

    I have the Rio Cali 256MB. digitalnetworksna.comcat list Rio.asp

    I've been very satisfied with it. It will give you 4 hours of MP3 music. It has an expansion slot to
    add up to 512MB additional memory. It also has an onboard FM tuner. $150 at amazon.com. The only
    complaint I have with the unit is the headphones that come with it. I just use the standard Sony
    Walkman style, which sound much better and stay on your head.

    Phil

    --
    "Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." -Kierkegard

  3. [email hidden] (run_now) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    i know there are two types of runners with respect to wearing headphones whilst running... those
    that don't, please forgive me and move on... i never wear one during a race, just when training.

    to those that do, can i have any input as to whether ipods and other players that have hard drives
    in them stand up to the bounces of running. i run at a sub 9 minute pace and have tried every cd
    player and they all fail.

    now i use a nomad mp3 player which is all memory based and works flawlessly, but its time for a
    new toy (maybe FM radio build in). so, will an ipod or other such device work for me? let me know
    your experiences

    thx

    I have no practical experience, but my impression from speaking to dealers is that jog-free is not
    guaranteed for mp3 players with hard discs.

    Tom H

  4. I have the RIO as well, and highly recommend it - The FM tuner isn't the best, but if you're in a
    strong signal area, you should be ok - The radio doesn't work inside the gym I go to

  5. I have a cheap 256MB mp3 player using compact flash card. It can store 4
    hours worth of 128kbps music.
    Unless you are doing serious Ultra-marathon, that's more than enough.
    "run_now" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    i know there are two types of runners with respect to wearing headphones whilst running... those
    that don't, please forgive me and move on... i never wear one during a race, just when training.

    to those that do, can i have any input as to whether ipods and other players that have hard drives
    in them stand up to the bounces of running. i run at a sub 9 minute pace and have tried every cd
    player and they all fail.

    now i use a nomad mp3 player which is all memory based and works flawlessly, but its time for a
    new toy (maybe FM radio build in). so, will an ipod or other such device work for me? let me know
    your experiences

    thx

  6. I have an Ipod and have found that the only way to run with it is to either carry it in my hand, or
    wear it on the back of my hand with strap designed for the arm. All other parts of the body cause
    too much shock.

    Quoted message said:

    i know there are two types of runners with respect to wearing headphones whilst running... those
    that don't, please forgive me and move on... i never wear one during a race, just when training.

    to those that do, can i have any input as to whether ipods and other players that have hard drives
    in them stand up to the bounces of running. i run at a sub 9 minute pace and have tried every cd
    player and they all fail.

    now i use a nomad mp3 player which is all memory based and works flawlessly, but its time for a new
    toy (maybe FM radio build in). so, will an ipod or other such device work for me? let me know your
    experiences

    thx

  7. kjw <[email hidden]> wrote in news:t1r4401mgih4j4v4tv4ru68ma8ebtgpgti@
    4ax.com:

    Quoted message said:

    I have an Ipod and have found that the only way to run with it is to either carry it in my hand,
    or wear it on the back of my hand with strap designed for the arm. All other parts of the body
    cause too much shock.

    Tunebelt makes an arband carrier that is specifically for the iPod. tunebelt.comab2

    You might want to consider this. I use their arband for MP3 players. Very comfortable.

    Phil

    --
    "Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." -Kierkegard

  8. Quoted message said:

    Tunebelt makes an arband carrier that is specifically for the iPod.
    tunebelt.comab2

    You might want to consider this. I use their arband for MP3 players. Very comfortable.

    Phil

    I don't see any part of the carrier which will reduce shock. It is a nice looking carrier, though.
    Probably better used cycling.

  9. kjw <[email hidden]> wrote in
    :"]news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Tunebelt makes an arband carrier that is specifically for the iPod. tunebelt.comab2

    You might want to consider this. I use their arband for MP3 players. Very comfortable.

    Phil

    I don't see any part of the carrier which will reduce shock. It is a nice looking carrier, though.
    Probably better used cycling.

    It's made of neoprene. This material gives just enough to reduce shock, while remaing firmly
    on your arm.

    Phil

  10. [email hidden] (run_now) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    i know there are two types of runners with respect to wearing headphones whilst running... those
    that don't, please forgive me and move on... i never wear one during a race, just when training.

    to those that do, can i have any input as to whether ipods and other players that have hard drives
    in them stand up to the bounces of running. i run at a sub 9 minute pace and have tried every cd
    player and they all fail.

    now i use a nomad mp3 player which is all memory based and works flawlessly, but its time for a
    new toy (maybe FM radio build in). so, will an ipod or other such device work for me? let me know
    your experiences

    thx

    I have a 10G ipod, but it skips when I run. Can't find my armband, and it was in a waist pack, so
    maybe an arm location would have fewer problems. Has that location worked better for anyone?

    Margaret

  11. Quoted message said:

    It's made of neoprene. This material gives just enough to reduce shock, while remaing firmly on
    your arm.

    Phil

    Have you actually used this case while running? The reason that I ask is that the case I currently
    use is neoprene as well and doesn't prevent skipping, unless worn on my wrist.

  12. kjw <[email hidden]> wrote in news:tj8540l9m85qdrejhfj9iksgl81avc10g8@
    4ax.com:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    It's made of neoprene. This material gives just enough to reduce shock, while remaing firmly on
    your arm.

    Phil

    Have you actually used this case while running? The reason that I ask is that the case I currently
    use is neoprene as well and doesn't prevent skipping, unless worn on my wrist.

    No, not for the iPod. Just an MP3 player.

    -Phil

  13. run_now said:

    i know there are two types of runners with respect to wearing headphones whilst running... those
    that don't, please forgive me and move on... i never wear one during a race, just when training.

    to those that do, can i have any input as to whether ipods and other players that have hard drives
    in them stand up to the bounces of running. i run at a sub 9 minute pace and have tried every cd
    player and they all fail.

    now i use a nomad mp3 player which is all memory based and works flawlessly, but its time for a
    new toy (maybe FM radio build in). so, will an ipod or other such device work for me? let me know
    your experiences

    thx

    I use a Creative Zen Xtra 30gb every day, and have had zero problems with it, although it does not
    have an FM tuner in it. It's absolutely wonderful, as it's big enough that it can carry the vast
    majority of my CD/MP3 collection in it. No problems with skipping or battery life (unless you run
    for >8 hours at a time!) It's a bit cheaper than an ipod, but having owned both, I wouldn't hesitate
    to buy either one. The mini-Ipod with the armband looks rather promising. You'll need to buy some
    new headphones, as the stock ones with both the ipod and the creative aren't suitable for running,
    but that's no big deal.

  14. so you really run hard with this device and it doesn't skip? do you wear it on your arm?
    around waist?

    "HardwareLust" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    run_now said:

    i know there are two types of runners with respect to wearing headphones whilst running... those
    that don't, please forgive me and move on... i never wear one during a race, just when training.

    to those that do, can i have any input as to whether ipods and other players that have hard
    drives in them stand up to the bounces of running. i run at a sub 9 minute pace and have tried
    every cd player and they all fail.

    now i use a nomad mp3 player which is all memory based and works flawlessly, but its time for a
    new toy (maybe FM radio build in). so, will an ipod or other such device work for me? let me
    know your experiences

    thx

    I use a Creative Zen Xtra 30gb every day, and have had zero problems with it, although it does not
    have an FM tuner in it. It's absolutely wonderful, as it's big enough that it can carry the vast
    majority of my CD/MP3 collection in it. No problems with skipping or battery life (unless you run
    for >8 hours at a time!) It's a bit cheaper than an ipod, but having owned both, I wouldn't
    hesitate to buy either one. The mini-Ipod with the armband looks rather promising. You'll need to
    buy some new headphones, as the stock ones with both the ipod and the creative aren't suitable for
    running, but that's no big deal.

  15. run_now said:

    so you really run hard with this device and it doesn't skip? do you wear it on your arm?
    around waist?

    In a neoprene belt around my waist. The creative (and the full size ipod) is little too heavy to
    wear on your arm I believe.

    The key thing is using the neoprene belt. It holds it tight to my body and doesn't allow it to
    bounce around at all.

  16. run_now said:

    can i have any input as to whether ipods and other players
    that have hard drives in them stand up to the bounces of
    running.

    now i use a nomad mp3 player which is all memory based and
    works flawlessly, but its time for a new toy (maybe FM
    radio build in). so, will an ipod or other such device
    work for me?

    The only things it seems you might be interested in are
    larger music capacity and FM radio. To which I reply:
    1) radio is nice, many have it, my Rio Cali's radio is good
    2) why does everyone feel the need to carry around 7000
    songs??? 128 mb mp3 player is a bit small, but 256,
    384, 512, etc., carries plenty of song variety. I just
    don't see why folks are dying to carry around the other
    95% of their music collection when it will take days of
    running to hear the 5% housed on your standard mp3
    player. And since the software for many players is now
    good (iTunes, Rio Music Manager, etc.), when you tire
    of one 5% portion of your mega-music library, just go
    swap another 100 songs onto your player from your
    computer music library.

    With that said, I agree that the Rio sports player, the Rio
    Cali, has been an excellent player for me. Good features,
    logical design, good sound. Does all I need.

    -- Josh

  17. Josh Steinberg <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    Quoted message said:

    With that said, I agree that the Rio sports player, the
    Rio Cali, has been an excellent player for me. Good
    features, logical design, good sound. Does all I need.

    I agree. I've had mine for a few weeks. I am totally
    satisfied. Well, not totally, I changed out the headphones
    for a pair of Sony Walkman-style headphones. If they could
    improve the heaphones and inculde the ability to control the
    unit from the wire on the headphones (the way my psaplay
    does), then that would be perfect.

    Phil

    --
    If you can empty your own boat Crossing the river of the
    world, No one will oppose you, No one will seek to harm you.
    -Chuang Tzu

  18. Josh Steinberg <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    run_now said:

    can i have any input as to whether ipods and other
    players that have hard drives in them stand up to the
    bounces of running.

    now i use a nomad mp3 player which is all memory based
    and works flawlessly, but its time for a new toy (maybe
    FM radio build in). so, will an ipod or other such
    device work for me?

    The only things it seems you might be interested in are
    larger music capacity and FM radio. To which I reply:
    1) radio is nice, many have it, my Rio Cali's radio is
    good
    2) why does everyone feel the need to carry around 7000
    songs??? 128 mb mp3 player is a bit small, but 256,
    384, 512, etc., carries plenty of song variety. I just
    don't see why folks are dying to carry around the
    other 95% of their music collection when it will take
    days of running to hear the 5% housed on your standard
    mp3 player. And since the software for many players is
    now good (iTunes, Rio Music Manager, etc.), when you
    tire of one 5% portion of your mega-music library,
    just go swap another 100 songs onto your player from
    your computer music library.

    With that said, I agree that the Rio sports player, the
    Rio Cali, has been an excellent player for me. Good
    features, logical design, good sound. Does all I need.

    -- Josh

    agree that carrying too many songs isn't a reason in and of
    itself... i have 256 meg now, but having time to re-load
    with new stuff, deleting stuff i am tired of, etc. just
    never seems to happen! so the 7000 song approach means just
    fill it up and up and up and up.

    but you do end up with a lot of eggs and $$$ in one basket
    that can be dropped, stolen, etc. i probably will go with a
    new non-disk based with at least 256, a memory card slot
    and an FM radio (and headphones with volume control.)
    figure i will wait 2 or 3 months and new devices for less
    money will abound.

    thanks all.

    jack

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