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  1. Pete Biggs said:
    David Nutter said:

    It's the same rubbery stuff that surrounds the rails at level
    crossings. This is grippier than the metal rail surrounds on older
    level crossings, but less good than tarmac. I'd also be worried about
    skid resistance under heavy braking by the likes of HGVs on this
    surface, especially at junctions.

    If grip is low, does that mean rolling resistance is low as well?
    Could be fast to ride on if so.

    Will cycles be allowed on these things anyway?

    There are some issues to resolve

    a) vehicle weights. On the radio, the MD of the company said suitable for
    cars and light vans, and special light weight buses (ie a new vehicle
    design). I concluded that 4 or 5 tonnes might be the limit.
    b) road layout. Their illustrations show two single carriageway strips with
    a central reservation. Now, as vehicles fail from time to time, there is
    nowhere to pass the obstruction which would effectively close the road in
    one direction.
    Equally there is nowhere to pass a slower vehicle. So that would exclude
    cyclists.

    As a practical large-scale idea I think they'd glossed over a few important
    details.

    However it might have some niche applications; there might be the odd route
    where a car-only bypass along a short piece of old trackbed might relieve
    congestion nearby.

    Which in turn could allow a "traditional buses and cyclists only" road to
    work uncongested. And, they could install lots of "give way" junctions for
    those using the car-route so it has all the advantages of a cycle-route:-).

    - Nigel

    --
    Nigel Cliffe,
    Webmaster at http://www.2mm.org.uk/

  2. David Nutter <[email hidden]>typed

    Quoted message said:

    Still, the idea of turning railways into cruddy roads isn't really that new.
    The almost-completely-mad Transport Watch bloke springs to mind...

    I remember having to deal with the subject in an English Language
    Comprehension exercise in around 1973...

    --
    Helen D. Vecht: [email hidden]
    Edgware.

  3. "Pete Biggs" <[email hidden]>typed

    Quoted message said:

    David Nutter wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    It's the same rubbery stuff that surrounds the rails at level
    crossings. This is grippier than the metal rail surrounds on older
    level crossings, but less good than tarmac. I'd also be worried about
    skid resistance under heavy braking by the likes of HGVs on this
    surface, especially at junctions.

    Quoted message said:

    If grip is low, does that mean rolling resistance is low as well? Could
    be fast to ride on if so.

    Quoted message said:

    Will cycles be allowed on these things anyway?

    Grip is fine in the dry. Can be worryingly low in the wet.

    The riders who came off in 1995 were not inexperienced.

    --
    Helen D. Vecht: [email hidden]
    Edgware.

  4. "Tony Raven" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    John Hearns said:


    The cyclists could travel by rail.

    In India people cycle for miles balancing on the rail.

    But Indian people are Gods - they make lentils taste good.

    John

  5. Eatmorepies said:


    But Indian people are Gods - they make lentils taste good.

    That's easy if you don't call them lentils ;-)

    --
    Tony

    "Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using
    his intelligence; he is just using his memory."
    - Leonardo da Vinci

  6. Tony Raven <[email hidden]> wrote:
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    | John Hearns wrote:
    | >
    | > The cyclists could travel by rail.
    | >
    |
    | In India people cycle for miles balancing on the rail.

    That must rank as some sort of yogic exercise. It's difficult enough
    staying on the (smoother) yellow lines, which are I think wider.

    --
    Patrick Herring, http://www.anweald.co.uk/ph
    Cycle helmets - for & against: http://www.anweald.co.uk/cyclehelmets.html

  7. Tony Raven <[email hidden]>typed

    Quoted message said:
    Eatmorepies said:


    But Indian people are Gods - they make lentils taste good.

    Quoted message said:

    That's easy if you don't call them lentils ;-)

    This is getting dahl...

    --
    Helen D. Vecht: [email hidden]
    Edgware.

  8. Helen Deborah Vecht said:

    Tony Raven <[email hidden]>typed

    Quoted message said:
    Eatmorepies said:


    But Indian people are Gods - they make lentils taste good.

    Quoted message said:

    That's easy if you don't call them lentils ;-)

    This is getting dahl...

    One of my favourite landscape painters..

    http://exviking.net/road/large/Stalheim.htm

    ...d

  9. David Martin said:
    Helen Deborah Vecht said:

    Tony Raven <[email hidden]>typed

    Quoted message said:

    Eatmorepies wrote:
    > But Indian people are Gods - they make lentils taste good.
    >
    That's easy if you don't call them lentils ;-)

    This is getting dahl...

    One of my favourite landscape painters..

    http://exviking.net/road/large/Stalheim.htm

    Is he related to the dyslexic Ronald?
    http://www.roalddahl.com/

    --
    Tony

    "Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using
    his intelligence; he is just using his memory."
    - Leonardo da Vinci

  10. Tony Raven said:
    David Martin said:
    Helen Deborah Vecht said:

    Tony Raven <[email hidden]>typed

    > Eatmorepies wrote:
    >> But Indian people are Gods - they make lentils taste good.
    >>
    > That's easy if you don't call them lentils ;-)

    This is getting dahl...

    One of my favourite landscape painters..

    http://exviking.net/road/large/Stalheim.htm

    Is he related to the dyslexic Ronald?
    http://www.roalddahl.com/

    Possibly a distant relative, though he did live much earlier.

    ...d

  11. "David Martin" <[email hidden]>typed

    Quoted message said:
    Helen Deborah Vecht said:

    Tony Raven <[email hidden]>typed

    Quoted message said:

    Eatmorepies wrote:
    >
    > But Indian people are Gods - they make lentils taste good.
    >

    Quoted message said:

    That's easy if you don't call them lentils ;-)

    This is getting dahl...

    Quoted message said:

    One of my favourite landscape painters..

    Quoted message said:

    http://exviking.net/road/large/Stalheim.htm

    Quoted message said:

    ...d

    Not Roald then??

    --
    Helen D. Vecht: [email hidden]
    Edgware.

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