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    Question: Gliding in RTL?

    - Worth trying to learn.
    - Not worth it, stick to the brake(or incredible leg strength).
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    I was reading the discussion on one-footed cokeuring, and someone
    mentioned gliding. I don't own a coker, so I'm really not aware of how
    the balance differs from my trials unicycle.

    My main question is, could gliding be an advantageous skill to learn?

    I assume the risk of falling would be greater, but gliding would give a
    ridiculous advantage on downhills.

    Any of the more experienced 36" riders want to shed some light on this?

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  2. if you were really tired from riding for a long time, i think it would
    be harder to glide.

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  3. There's zero chance that gliding a big wheel/GUni will be significantly
    faster than riding it downhill.

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  4. I think it would definitely be a good idea in theory, but it would wear
    through your shoes way to fast to make it worth while. Anyone who has
    done a long downhill glide will be able to tell you that its pretty
    easy to fly through your shoes, and gliding on a coker at long
    distances would be extremely damaging to the shoes.

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  5. not to mention how hard it'd be to glide with a T7

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  6. Kyle_Destroyer said:

    not to mention how hard it'd be to glide with a T7

    Yeah but a lot of the top riders aren't using a T7 it would seem.

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  7. ...a friend of mine ist learning to glide on his muni with using the
    brake instead of his foot (he can do it for like 30 meters), that could
    be a solution, but on a coker i guess its not very confortable for your
    legs anyway...

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  8. I doubt gliding would be faster than riding on a 36". It's faster to
    glide on a 20 or 24" but not 36.

    EDIT:

    Quoted message said:

    Not worth it, stick to the brake(or incredible leg strength).

    If the hill was so steep the brake would be needed gliding would
    definitely not be a good idea. Gliding down steep hills is very hard,
    you have to put heaps of weight on the tyre and I just find it really
    difficult.

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  9. SkierAlex said:

    I doubt gliding would be faster than riding on a 36". It's faster to
    glide on a 20 or 24" but not 36.

    EDIT: If the hill was so steep the brake would be needed gliding would
    definitely not be a good idea. Gliding down steep hills is very hard,
    you have to put heaps of weight on the tyre and I just find it really
    difficult.

    I really don't see why it would be slower on a 36. I don't see how it
    would be any faster or slower.

    The difference that I can see is that it probably wouldn't be so much
    you controlling the wheel under you but you would be controlling your
    body on top of the wheel.

    Gliding a coker is definitely possible, but I'm sure it's not feasible
    for most riders. I remember Nathan Hoover saying something bout Beau
    gliding long distances on his coker, so I'm sure if you can do
    distance, than speed shouldn't be an issue. The only issue that I can
    see (besides the likelihood of getting really badly injured) is that
    you would burn through shoes like mad.

    I also don't think gliding down steep hills is that hard, I find it
    easier than slow hills, if I get a steep one then I can use more
    pressure and feel the tire better. When I'm doing it on smaller hills
    it becomes more like coasting and its easier to make a mistake because
    a little change in pressure can knock you off.

    With a coker it would definitely take more pressure even at slower
    speeds because it has more rotating mass so I would think that once you
    find that sweet spot its not as bad as people think, and you could
    definitely go really far.

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  10. i think it would be completely stupid and impractical but I would give
    you some massive rep for it. So I voted learn it.

    Brendan

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  11. tholub said:

    There's zero chance that gliding a big wheel/GUni will be significantly
    faster than riding it downhill.

    Yup. Who wants to glide at 15 mph, or otherwise at speeds that are
    unsafe for a dismount from normal riding, let alone with your feet up
    on the wheel?

    And then there's that T7 (or other handle) thing... 🙂

    It's a fun idea, but at the speeds of this race I can't see anyone
    getting an advantage by not having to pedal for a while. You lose speed
    getting started, and greatly increase the chance of losing even more
    time by falling off.

    This discussion came up in 1993 when we did the first big unicycle even
    in China, the Great Wall Marathon. This was a 10k road race (on 24"
    unicycles) on the road down, then up, to the Myutan Yu area of the
    Great Wall outside Beijing. The whole first half of the race was
    downhill, followed by a repeat going back up. Some of the top riders of
    that time may have gotten a rest by using gliding during the first half.
    Instead, we all wore out our crotches because nobody was used to racing
    on hills! I remember a famous quote by IUF founder Jack Halpern, as he
    chugged his way past me near the finish (I was there with my camera
    having finished earlier):
    "I need a detatchable d*ck!"

    Back to gliding, I would have to assume it would be harder on a Coker,
    first due to the higher foot position, and second due to the much
    greater mass you would be controlling with your foot pressure.

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  12. turtle said:

    ...a friend of mine ist learning to glide on his muni with using the
    brake instead of his foot (he can do it for like 30 meters), that could
    be a solution, but on a coker i guess its not very confortable for your
    legs anyway...

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  13. Danni said:

    Gliding would only be useful for long steep hills. I'm sure gliding on a
    cokeur is possible, as I can glide on my 29"er.

    Yeah it was alot of fun gliding on my old 29er. You liking it Danni?

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  14. ntappin said:

    I really don't see why it would be slower on a 36.

    SkierAlex didn't say that gliding on a 36 would be slower than on a
    smaller wheel. He said he doubted that gliding on a 36 would be faster
    than riding (on a 36), as opposed to on a smaller wheel where gliding
    can indeed be significantly faster than riding. He is right because on
    a 36 you can ride much faster than on a smaller wheel, whereas gliding
    speeds would be roughly the same for various wheel sizes.

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  15. Klaas Bil said:

    SkierAlex didn't say that gliding on a 36 would be slower than on a
    smaller wheel. He said he doubted that gliding on a 36 would be faster
    than riding (on a 36), as opposed to on a smaller wheel where gliding
    can indeed be significantly faster than riding. He is right because on
    a 36 you can ride much faster than on a smaller wheel, whereas gliding
    speeds would be roughly the same for various wheel sizes.

    Thanks 🙂

    And what's brake gliding like? Is it much harder? I s'pose you just
    have to make speed adjustments with your hand not your foot. I want to
    try it but I don't have a brake on any of my unis.

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