RRRR: RTR

Congrats on the PR Jobs!

Very close to sub-20 also...

You should get there at your next race. Just make sure to
be well hydrated before the start! :-) Especially on a
hot day...

Anthony.

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Rec.Running Race Report: Run Through Redlands 5K,
California. May 2, 2004.
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Somewhere between mile 0 and mile 1, it felt like I had
been wandering around in a desert without water for two
days. My throat was dry beyond Dry. I couldn't even
generate saliva. Now I have a new experience to boast
about. I thought the only time you couldn't generate
saliva was when you are dead.

Life savers work well 😉

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Last 1.1 mile took 6:35, which is a 6:00 pace. Overall
time - 20:19 chip, 20:28 gun. Finished 28/1000+ and 2nd in
my AG. Overall winner was 16:16.

The left side of my brain was disappointed and the right
side was happy. Disappointed that I couldn't break 20.
Happy about that last 1.1 mile and that I have a new PR.

Listen to your right side 🙂 Next time, you'll get sub-20,
esp. if you get cooler weather.

Nice race, jobs, and an entertaining race report. Thanks.

Dot

--
"Success is different things to different people" -Bernd
Heinrich in Racing the Antelope

Big Congrats, Jobs! Awfully durn close to that 20:00, I'd
say you better go for it! I'll bet you'll nail it next time.
And congrats for the AG 2nd too!

Teresa in AZ

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Last 1.1 mile took 6:35, which is a 6:00 pace. Overall
time - 20:19 chip, 20:28 gun. Finished 28/1000+ and 2nd in
my AG. Overall winner was 16:16.

The left side of my brain was disappointed and the right
side was happy. Disappointed that I couldn't break 20.
Happy about that last 1.1 mile and that I have a new PR.

Overall, I guess, if I have a chance, I'd probably go back
and run it next year.

jobs

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Quoted message said:

Rec.Running Race Report: Run Through Redlands 5K,
California. May 2, 2004.
------------------------------------------------------

Somewhere between mile 0 and mile 1, it felt like I had
been wandering around in a desert without water for two
days. My throat was dry beyond Dry. I couldn't even
generate saliva. Now I have a new experience to boast
about. I thought the only time you couldn't generate
saliva was when you are dead.

I had the same experience a month ago while waiting for
surgery for the whole appendix thing. They had me on IV
fluids but it wasn't the same, obviously. My tongue was
white and dry. I was begging for water. Finally I was given
a couple ice chips which did nothing but torture me further.

cheers,
--
David (in Hamilton, ON) www.allfalldown.org "The most
insecure people are the ones you see, putting other people
down constantly."

On Mon, 3 May 2004 00:00:04 +0000 (UTC),
[email hidden] wrote:

[cool report went here]

Quoted message said:

Last 1.1 mile took 6:35, which is a 6:00 pace. Overall time
- 20:19 chip, 20:28 gun. Finished 28/1000+ and 2nd in my
AG. Overall winner was 16:16.

The left side of my brain was disappointed and the right
side was happy. Disappointed that I couldn't break 20.
Happy about that last 1.1 mile and that I have a new PR.

Next time, think Mini-Cooper. With both sides of your brain.

I know you wanted sub-20, but congratulations on the PR.

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Another thing that I think I should do is more tempo runs
of a longer distance. Most of my tempos are around 2 miles.

I am hardly qualified to give training advice, so feel free
to ignore this: yes, run tempos longer than 2 miles, but you
might also increase your overall mileage (slowly and sanely,
of course). I have often wished I could run at your level on
your weekly mileage.

congrats again,

Karen

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Subject: RRRR: RTR
From: [email hidden]
Date: Sun, May 2, 2004 5:00 PM
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

Rec.Running Race Report: Run Through Redlands 5K,
California. May 2, 2004.
------------------------------------------------------

Somewhere between mile 0 and mile 1, it felt like I had
been wandering around in a desert without water for two
days. My throat was dry beyond Dry. I couldn't even
generate saliva. Now I have a new experience to boast
about. I thought the only time you couldn't generate saliva
was when you are dead.

Thinking back to mile 0, I had started a little behind the
start pack. 0 to timing mat in 9 seconds, using the solar
energy of the sun beating down right into our eyes. A bit
slow, much like a hybrid car.

Then instead of taking advantage of the carpool lane like
a hybrid car can, I was forced to weave myself like a big
SUV on the freeways of L.A. From my high pedestal, I could
see dozens of tiny kids bolting out like souped-up
Japanese cars. However, unlike a real one, within about
200 meters, quite a few of them either started slowing
down or came to a complete stop. I should learn how to
honk using my vocal chords.

But my throat was on my mind. Or was it on my nerves? With
the throat nagging me, I kept looking for the water stop
which I figured would be around the midway mark. Never saw
the mile 1 marker. But the water stop, when it finally
appeared, was better than the sight of a cheap gas station
in California. Like a gas guzzler, I gulped down some and
splashed some into my face.

Within a few minutes, mile 2 marker popped up. My Timex
showed 13:47. Enlightenment dawned upon me and I relegated
my desire of a sub-20 finish to my on-board to-do-list.

Transported my physical system through the next mile and
turned a curve onto the finish stretch where I sprinted
like crazy. That felt good. Just like a souped-up car
without brakes.

Last 1.1 mile took 6:35, which is a 6:00 pace. Overall time
- 20:19 chip, 20:28 gun. Finished 28/1000+ and 2nd in my
AG. Overall winner was 16:16.

The left side of my brain was disappointed and the right
side was happy. Disappointed that I couldn't break 20.
Happy about that last 1.1 mile and that I have a new PR.

I think that missed mile 1 marker played a role. I wasn't
able to pace myself well. Also, the fact that I don't race
much didn't help. This was my first race in about 6 months
and only the second one in 18 months. I think I'm going to
race another 5K in the next two months while this one is
still fresh in my memory.

Another thing that I think I should do is more tempo runs
of a longer distance. Most of my tempos are around 2 miles.

The weather was definitely hot. I heard at least a couple
of people complaining that they should've had more water
stops. By the time we left, it was somewhere around 95+ F.

Food - water, orange, and orange juice were free. Some food
on sale - burritos and popcorn. A bit of a disappointment.
But, they had free massage at the finish area. I feel like
I just had a tire change.

Overall, I guess, if I have a chance, I'd probably go back
and run it next year.

jobs

Jobin,

Congrats on the PR and a great report as usual. The one
thing you didn't mention is that they ran this race later in
the year than usual, and that the high for the day was 102
degrees F! It was a terrible day for a race. If you can PR
on a day like that, you're doing well.

Also, My running club had a booth at the finish line, so You
must have walked right past me when you came out of the
chute. Sorry I missed you!

Robert Walter, CA

Anthony said:

Congrats on the PR Jobs!

Very close to sub-20 also...

thanks anthony.

Quoted message said:

You should get there at your next race. Just make sure to
be well hydrated before the start! :-) Especially on a
hot day...

i should've. looking back at it, i had stayed up late the
night before and wasn't drinking enough.

at least, my knee didn't bother me this time, unlike my last
race. i still do those stretches in the links you gave me
last year.

jobs

Dot dot.h@#att.net said:

Life savers work well 😉

hey! 🙂 actually that's a good suggestion. i do that on long
hikes. (IIRC, we had a thread on that a few months ago.)
never thought of a 5K as a long hike.

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Listen to your right side 🙂 Next time, you'll get sub-20,
esp. if you get cooler weather.

i feel pretty confident i can do it the next time. this time
my goal before the race was 19:30 but when i got there i
toned it down to 20:00.

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Nice race, jobs, and an entertaining race report. Thanks.

thanks dot.

jobs

Teresa Bippert-Plymate said:

Big Congrats, Jobs! Awfully durn close to that 20:00, I'd
say you better go for it! I'll bet you'll nail it next
time. And congrats for the AG 2nd too!

thanks teresa. i will do it the next time. 🙂

jobs

SwStudio <[email hidden]> wrote: ....

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I had the same experience a month ago while waiting for
surgery for the whole appendix thing. They had me on IV
fluids but it wasn't the same, obviously. My tongue was
white and dry. I was begging for water. Finally I was
given a couple ice chips which did nothing but torture me
further.

yours was a *much* worse set of circumstances.

for me, it was strange. it's not like i've never been
thirsty before. but this was totally different.

i just found out that yesterday was the official start of
the wildfire season in southern california. i think we had
three fires yesterday.

btw, congrats on the great 10K, especially coming so soon
after your surgery.

jobs

joe positive <[email hidden]> wrote: ...

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Next time, think Mini-Cooper. With both sides of
your brain.

heh heh 🙂

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I know you wanted sub-20, but congratulations on the PR.

thanks karen.

Quoted message said:

I am hardly qualified to give training advice, so feel
free to ignore this: yes, run tempos longer than 2 miles,
but you might also increase your overall mileage (slowly
and sanely, of course). I have often wished I could run at
your level on your weekly mileage.

thanks. you are at a much higher peak in terms of mileage
and hence you have the experience to give me advice.

i've been thinking of increasing mileage surely but sanely.
two weeks ago, i ran 26 miles - up from my usual 23 miles.
that included a 6 mile run - the longest this year. best
thing - now i'm at 350 miles for the year. that's more than
what i did for the whole year in 2002.

so, three things that i have on my to-do list: 1 -
incorporate one long run (6+ miles) each week 2 -
increase length of tempo runs to 3 to 4 miles 3 -
increase overall mileage.

i'd like to increase it to 30 miles and see what happens. i
don't think i have time to go 40 or beyond, at this point.

jobs

RWalter2 said:

Congrats on the PR and a great report as usual. The one
thing you didn't mention is that they ran this race later
in the year than usual, and that the high for the day was
102 degrees F! It was a terrible day for a race. If you
can PR on a day like that, you're doing well.

thanks bob. i asked around about the temperature right after
the race. i got estimates from 70 to 80 degrees. 🙂

i did see that 102 F around noon.

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Also, My running club had a booth at the finish line, so
You must have walked right past me when you came out of
the chute. Sorry I missed you!

i wasn't sure if it was you that i saw. i was too tired to
even walk. were you wearing a white cap with "26.2" on it?
if so, sorry.. i should've just come up and asked. last time
i saw you was at the 2002 mission inn run.

jobs