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  1. It hardy ever rains much here. When it does, it moves on quickly. Yeah,
    right!

    I had two groups of friends come to ride this weekend and we both got
    some quality rain time in at Hartman's, which is pretty unusual.

    First a couple of tele skiers came by on Friday evening. It's always
    nice at Hartman's in the evening so we headed out around 6:00 despite
    threatening clouds. As we climbed the first trail (Jack's) in a sprinkle
    but then the rain just started coming down harder and harder. We ride a
    little ways and then David's cleat screw fell out and that locked him
    into his pedal. The poor guy had to take his shoe off to get off his
    bike! That sealed the deal so we quickly turned back and called it quits.

    Then Saturday morning GeeDubb met me at my house at 8:00. It's always
    clear in the mornings, but this one was an exception. It was raining
    steadily and had been all night. We were planning on doing Agate Creek
    off the continental divide (Monarch Pass area). We drove up there to
    meet Ride-A-Lot and a couple of Salida guys, Shawn and Tom. I was hoping
    we'd get up above the rain but when we arrived at the summit it was
    pretty clear that that wasn't going to happen. We chatted a bit, milled
    around and then decided to try Hartman's back in Gunnison instead. It
    was going to be wet, but Hartman's drains well so we figured it was
    worth a shot. Tom and his friend had already climbed Old Monarch in the
    rain, and they were done for the day. The rest of us decided to meet
    back at my place and try for Hartman's. The weather looked like maybe it
    was moving out while Garrison, Gary and I had breakfast in town as we
    waited for Mitch and Shawn to get some things in Salida and then came to
    meet us. After breakfast me all met up again just as the rain resumed!

    With high hopes and low expectations we went to Hartman's and started
    riding. We climbed up Jack's and made our way to Beck's. From there we
    did Rocky Ridge to Broken Shovel to Skyline. All the time the rain was
    increasing in intensity, but it wasn't very cold and the climbing kept
    us (or me at least) pretty warm. Most of the trail surface was
    decomposed granite and that was staying pretty nice in all that water. A
    couple of spots had more soil-like conditions, and that was starting to
    get muddy and slippery. The rocks were still riding well and after
    seeing Garrison roll a drop I hadn't done in a while (making it look
    really easy) I decided I had to give it a shot too. On the way down, as
    I shifted way back my shorts snagged on my seat. I'm not sure exactly
    what happened, but as I transitioned from the drop back to flat my bike
    made a weird crack sound.

    Here's a photo Shawn took as I came out of the move. Note the
    self-destructing seat. I'm lucky I didn't get impaled (or worse)!
    http://tinyurl.com/gd82z

    A (titanium) rail sheared just behind the seat post clamp and the nose
    of the saddle had separated from the rails.

    So we had to stop and try to come up with a fix. First we moved the
    clamp so it clamped the broken rail together. Then Garrison, who works
    at a bike shop and had the good idea to use a tube and some zip ties
    (from Shawn, I think - Thanks!) the secure it. Now I was getting a
    little chilly!
    http://tinyurl.com/fpygx

    The resulting fix wasn't pretty or comfortable, but it was less likely
    to sterilize me than removing the seat or leaving it all broken and jagged.
    http://tinyurl.com/fbc4f

    So from there we back tracked to the parking lot, playing on a fun
    granite slab on the way. Things were a little too slippery to do a line
    I wanted to play on, but we still had a little fun and watched young
    Garrison try to overcome the lack of friction.

    Then finally, we took our requisite group photo in the parking lot and
    called it quits.
    http://tinyurl.com/lxoko

    So it wasn't all I had hoped for but it was fun. Good to see you again
    Gary, and good to meet you Salida guys and Mitch finally too! Of course
    now that it's Monday and I have to work it looks like the kind of day we
    needed to ride Agate. Maybe we'll have better luck next time.

    Matt

  2. MattB said:

    It hardy ever rains much here. When it does, it moves on quickly. Yeah,
    right!

    I had two groups of friends come to ride this weekend and we both got
    some quality rain time in at Hartman's, which is pretty unusual.

    First a couple of tele skiers came by on Friday evening. It's always
    nice at Hartman's in the evening so we headed out around 6:00 despite
    threatening clouds. As we climbed the first trail (Jack's) in a sprinkle
    but then the rain just started coming down harder and harder. We ride a
    little ways and then David's cleat screw fell out and that locked him
    into his pedal. The poor guy had to take his shoe off to get off his
    bike! That sealed the deal so we quickly turned back and called it quits.

    Then Saturday morning GeeDubb met me at my house at 8:00. It's always
    clear in the mornings, but this one was an exception. It was raining
    steadily and had been all night. We were planning on doing Agate Creek
    off the continental divide (Monarch Pass area). We drove up there to
    meet Ride-A-Lot and a couple of Salida guys, Shawn and Tom. I was hoping
    we'd get up above the rain but when we arrived at the summit it was
    pretty clear that that wasn't going to happen. We chatted a bit, milled
    around and then decided to try Hartman's back in Gunnison instead. It
    was going to be wet, but Hartman's drains well so we figured it was
    worth a shot. Tom and his friend had already climbed Old Monarch in the
    rain, and they were done for the day. The rest of us decided to meet
    back at my place and try for Hartman's. The weather looked like maybe it
    was moving out while Garrison, Gary and I had breakfast in town as we
    waited for Mitch and Shawn to get some things in Salida and then came to
    meet us. After breakfast me all met up again just as the rain resumed!

    With high hopes and low expectations we went to Hartman's and started
    riding. We climbed up Jack's and made our way to Beck's. From there we
    did Rocky Ridge to Broken Shovel to Skyline. All the time the rain was
    increasing in intensity, but it wasn't very cold and the climbing kept
    us (or me at least) pretty warm. Most of the trail surface was
    decomposed granite and that was staying pretty nice in all that water. A
    couple of spots had more soil-like conditions, and that was starting to
    get muddy and slippery. The rocks were still riding well and after
    seeing Garrison roll a drop I hadn't done in a while (making it look
    really easy) I decided I had to give it a shot too. On the way down, as
    I shifted way back my shorts snagged on my seat. I'm not sure exactly
    what happened, but as I transitioned from the drop back to flat my bike
    made a weird crack sound.

    Here's a photo Shawn took as I came out of the move. Note the
    self-destructing seat. I'm lucky I didn't get impaled (or worse)!
    http://tinyurl.com/gd82z

    A (titanium) rail sheared just behind the seat post clamp and the nose
    of the saddle had separated from the rails.

    So we had to stop and try to come up with a fix. First we moved the
    clamp so it clamped the broken rail together. Then Garrison, who works
    at a bike shop and had the good idea to use a tube and some zip ties
    (from Shawn, I think - Thanks!) the secure it. Now I was getting a
    little chilly!
    http://tinyurl.com/fpygx

    The resulting fix wasn't pretty or comfortable, but it was less likely
    to sterilize me than removing the seat or leaving it all broken and jagged.
    http://tinyurl.com/fbc4f

    So from there we back tracked to the parking lot, playing on a fun
    granite slab on the way. Things were a little too slippery to do a line
    I wanted to play on, but we still had a little fun and watched young
    Garrison try to overcome the lack of friction.

    Then finally, we took our requisite group photo in the parking lot and
    called it quits.
    http://tinyurl.com/lxoko

    So it wasn't all I had hoped for but it was fun. Good to see you again
    Gary, and good to meet you Salida guys and Mitch finally too! Of course
    now that it's Monday and I have to work it looks like the kind of day we
    needed to ride Agate. Maybe we'll have better luck next time.

    Matt

    Bummer on the seat.
    I had to totally bail on Gary and Mitch for Sunday, which was probably a
    good thing. Even if we didn't have weather up there (and we would have)
    it would have been very muddy, perhaps with more pushing than riding.

    Never, never talk badly about rain in Colorado, you don't want to [censored] the rain gods.
    There is no such thing as too much rain here, even when it keeps one off
    the trails for nearly a week.

    --
    Craig Brossman, Durango Colorado

    Owner/Operator of the Pekingnese Ranch.

  3. Craig Brossman said:
    MattB said:

    It hardy ever rains much here. When it does, it moves on quickly.
    Yeah, right!


    <snip>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Bummer on the seat.

    The seat was a bummer just because it cut the ride short (even if the
    rain was about to do that anyway). That was the third bike that seat had
    been on, so I think I got my money's worth. I just picked up a new WTB
    Pure V as a replacement. Those WTB saddles fit me well and I don't want
    to mess with something that works for me, especially when my junk is at
    stake!

    Quoted message said:

    I had to totally bail on Gary and Mitch for Sunday, which was probably a
    good thing. Even if we didn't have weather up there (and we would have)
    it would have been very muddy, perhaps with more pushing than riding.

    Yeah, I haven't heard from the guys I rode with on Friday, but they had
    plans to ride some high stuff around Crested Butte for the rest of the
    weekend. I wonder how all that went...
    When we were at the top of Monarch making the decision, my young friend
    Garrison really wanted to do it anyway. I made the call to not do it and
    I still think it was the right choice. I never want to be that guy who
    led a group of people (several of whom I had never ridden with) into a
    wilderness disaster even though all the signs were there to help me
    decide not to.

    Quoted message said:

    Never, never talk badly about rain in Colorado, you don't want to [censored]
    off the rain gods.
    There is no such thing as too much rain here, even when it keeps one off
    the trails for nearly a week.

    Indeed, as long as my life isn't floating away in flood waters, it's not
    too much. Especially for Western Co. My only complaint about the rain
    was the timing. Once I can get out when it's not raining, I'm sure the
    conditions will be sweet and tacky. That combined with a full reservoir
    and reduced fire danger makes it more than worthwhile.

    Matt

  4. MattB said:

    Craig Brossman wrote:

    snip

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I had to totally bail on Gary and Mitch for Sunday, which was probably
    a good thing. Even if we didn't have weather up there (and we would
    have) it would have been very muddy, perhaps with more pushing than
    riding.

    Yeah, I haven't heard from the guys I rode with on Friday, but they had
    plans to ride some high stuff around Crested Butte for the rest of the
    weekend. I wonder how all that went...
    When we were at the top of Monarch making the decision, my young friend
    Garrison really wanted to do it anyway. I made the call to not do it and
    I still think it was the right choice. I never want to be that guy who
    led a group of people (several of whom I had never ridden with) into a
    wilderness disaster even though all the signs were there to help me
    decide not to.

    Good call. I think you said it at the top of Monarch, but one
    mechanical or badish crash and it's hypothermia time, even with rain gear.
    For those not there, the temp was in the mid 40s, nasty conditions to be
    out sitting around waiting for search and rescue.

    Quoted message said:

    Indeed, as long as my life isn't floating away in flood waters, it's not
    too much. Especially for Western Co. My only complaint about the rain
    was the timing. Once I can get out when it's not raining, I'm sure the
    conditions will be sweet and tacky. That combined with a full reservoir
    and reduced fire danger makes it more than worthwhile.

    Mitch and I rode on Friday (w/out rain) and, other than some small
    washed out areas, the trails were excellent.

    Shawn

  5. MattB said:

    Here's a photo Shawn took as I came out of the move. Note the
    self-destructing seat. I'm lucky I didn't get impaled (or worse)!
    http://tinyurl.com/gd82zN

    Sorry I didn't get a picture with you coming off the rock. Forgot how
    slow the shutter is in my old camera (the DSLR stayed home warm and dry).

    Quoted message said:

    So we had to stop and try to come up with a fix. First we moved the
    clamp so it clamped the broken rail together. Then Garrison, who works
    at a bike shop and had the good idea to use a tube and some zip ties
    (from Shawn, I think - Thanks!) the secure it. Now I was getting a
    little chilly!
    http://tinyurl.com/fpygx

    Gary had the good rescue gear. I've alreaddy put the zip ties in my
    Camelback. Gotta remember duct tape too.

    Quoted message said:

    The resulting fix wasn't pretty or comfortable, but it was less likely
    to sterilize me than removing the seat or leaving it all broken and jagged.
    http://tinyurl.com/fbc4f

    So from there we back tracked to the parking lot, playing on a fun
    granite slab on the way. Things were a little too slippery to do a line
    I wanted to play on, but we still had a little fun and watched young
    Garrison try to overcome the lack of friction.

    Nice to be young and imortal.

    Quoted message said:

    Then finally, we took our requisite group photo in the parking lot and
    called it quits.
    http://tinyurl.com/lxoko

    So it wasn't all I had hoped for but it was fun. Good to see you again
    Gary, and good to meet you Salida guys and Mitch finally too! Of course
    now that it's Monday and I have to work it looks like the kind of day we
    needed to ride Agate. Maybe we'll have better luck next time.

    Crest in September maybe?

    Shawn

  6. MattB said:

    The resulting fix wasn't pretty or comfortable, but it was less likely to
    sterilize me than removing the seat or leaving it all broken and jagged.
    http://tinyurl.com/fbc4f

    Whoa, that's quite the repair job.

    Sounds like it was an "interesting" time. 😉 Great RR!

    gabrielle

  7. "MattB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    little ways and then David's cleat screw fell out and that locked him into
    his pedal. The poor guy had to take his shoe off to get off his bike!

    I did not read all the threads carefully, but some waterbottle cage bolts
    work as spare cleat bolts.

    Dean

  8. Shawn said:
    MattB said:

    Here's a photo Shawn took as I came out of the move. Note the
    self-destructing seat. I'm lucky I didn't get impaled (or worse)!
    http://tinyurl.com/gd82zN

    Sorry I didn't get a picture with you coming off the rock. Forgot how
    slow the shutter is in my old camera (the DSLR stayed home warm and dry).

    No worries. That photo came out pretty cool anyway. Thanks for taking
    one at all! I kept my camera packed away the whole time.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    So we had to stop and try to come up with a fix. First we moved the
    clamp so it clamped the broken rail together. Then Garrison, who works
    at a bike shop and had the good idea to use a tube and some zip ties
    (from Shawn, I think - Thanks!) the secure it. Now I was getting a
    little chilly!
    http://tinyurl.com/fpygx

    Gary had the good rescue gear. I've alreaddy put the zip ties in my
    Camelback. Gotta remember duct tape too.

    I had duct tape not too long ago but it came out of the pack for some
    reason or another and never made it back in. I guess I'll need to update
    the kit again.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    The resulting fix wasn't pretty or comfortable, but it was less likely
    to sterilize me than removing the seat or leaving it all broken and
    jagged.
    http://tinyurl.com/fbc4f

    So from there we back tracked to the parking lot, playing on a fun
    granite slab on the way. Things were a little too slippery to do a
    line I wanted to play on, but we still had a little fun and watched
    young Garrison try to overcome the lack of friction.

    Nice to be young and imortal.

    Yeah, but here's the thing about Garrison. He's a two-time childhood
    leukemia survivor. That's a big reason his dad is riding across the
    country on a fixie - The Big Fix is a cancer fund raiser. He's an
    amazing kid. I feel pretty lucky he wants to be my friend.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    Then finally, we took our requisite group photo in the parking lot and
    called it quits.
    http://tinyurl.com/lxoko

    So it wasn't all I had hoped for but it was fun. Good to see you again
    Gary, and good to meet you Salida guys and Mitch finally too! Of
    course now that it's Monday and I have to work it looks like the kind
    of day we needed to ride Agate. Maybe we'll have better luck next time.

    Crest in September maybe?

    Sure. I may do it (or something big) next weekend too!

    Matt

  9. Dean A. Stepper said:

    "MattB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    little ways and then David's cleat screw fell out and that locked him into
    his pedal. The poor guy had to take his shoe off to get off his bike!

    I did not read all the threads carefully, but some waterbottle cage bolts
    work as spare cleat bolts.

    Dean

    Good thing to know! Thanks. We were close enough to home that we didn't
    have to try and fix it in the rain.

    Matt

  10. Dean A. Stepper said:

    I did not read all the threads carefully, but some waterbottle cage bolts
    work as spare cleat bolts.

    Sort of. They tend to be too long (which means it protrudes into your
    shoe, ouch!) and the head is too big (which can interfere with clipping
    in). I've ridden a few miles that way, but it's not recommended.

    I just carry two spare cleat bolts (apparently there are two common
    lengths, so I carry one of each). It requires almost no room, after all.
    It happened to one of my riding partners since then and it didn't
    interfere with the ride because I had a spare.

    Nice seat doctoring BTW, Matt!

    --
    -BB-
    To e-mail me, unmunge my address

  11. MattB said:

    It hardy ever rains much here. When it does, it moves on quickly. Yeah,
    right!

    <snip>

    Sounds like y'all were lacking the presence of the Western Colorado
    Good Weather Fairy.

    JD

  12. JD said:
    MattB said:

    It hardy ever rains much here. When it does, it moves on quickly. Yeah,
    right!

    <snip>

    Sounds like y'all were lacking the presence of the Western Colorado
    Good Weather Fairy.

    JD

    Yeah, I think (s)he lives here and must have been on vacation. It
    appears things are now back to normal.

    Matt

  13. JD said:

    Sounds like y'all were lacking the presence of the Western Colorado
    Good Weather Fairy.

    About time you came out.

    (Someone look to see if he chuckled!)

    Bill "not that there's anything /wrong/..." S.

  14. "BB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Dean A. Stepper said:

    I did not read all the threads carefully, but some waterbottle cage bolts
    work as spare cleat bolts.

    Sort of. They tend to be too long (which means it protrudes into your
    shoe, ouch!) and the head is too big (which can interfere with clipping
    in). I've ridden a few miles that way, but it's not recommended.

    I just carry two spare cleat bolts (apparently there are two common
    lengths, so I carry one of each). It requires almost no room, after all.
    It happened to one of my riding partners since then and it didn't
    interfere with the ride because I had a spare.

    Nice seat doctoring BTW, Matt!

    I carry spare cleat bolts too, after a little incident on the MRT....

  15. Bill Sornson said:
    JD said:

    Sounds like y'all were lacking the presence of the Western Colorado
    Good Weather Fairy.

    About time you came out.

    (Someone look to see if he chuckled!)

    Bill "not that there's anything /wrong/..." S.

    Err, don't you live in SoCal?

    😉

    E.P.

  16. Ed Pirrero said:


    Bill Sornson said:
    JD said:

    Sounds like y'all were lacking the presence of the Western Colorado
    Good Weather Fairy.

    Ed Pirrero said:

    Err, don't you live in SoCal?

    Yep, Jerry lives in Cypress. Didn't he move back in with his Mom?

    Cypress, now there's a beautiful city in SoCal!

  17. "JD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    MattB said:

    It hardy ever rains much here. When it does, it moves on quickly. Yeah,
    right!

    <snip>

    Sounds like y'all were lacking the presence of the Western Colorado
    Good Weather Fairy.

    JD

    I call it the Williams Curse. Seems rain always follows me to Colorado..... I guess I should have come up earlier!

    Gary

    Quoted message said:
  18. "MattB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    It hardy ever rains much here. When it does, it moves on quickly. Yeah, right!

    Thankfully we didn't ride in the hurricane Mitch and I drove through a few miles east of Montrose. Damn scary.

    I'd also like to offer a public thanks to you for riding with us in such lovely weather. It would have been very easy for you to
    decline. I think you felt obligated and I really appreciate you going anyway.

    Now to get off my lazy butt and figure out a ride to do although it's freaking cloudy again this morning........

    rain, rain go away, come again after I leave.........

    Gary

  19. Bob said:
    Ed Pirrero said:


    Bill Sornson wrote: {nothing that remains}

    Quoted message said:

    JD wrote:

    > Sounds like y'all were lacking the presence of the Western Colorado
    > Good Weather Fairy.

    Ed Pirrero said:

    Err, don't you live in SoCal?

    Yep, Jerry lives in Cypress. Didn't he move back in with his Mom?

    Cypress, now there's a beautiful city in SoCal!

    Way to completely trash the thread.

    Just for those with absolutely no life, when JD, who used to live in CO,
    said that the good weather fairy was gone from there, I made a JOKE about
    him "coming out" (as in from the closet -- like he'd referred to himself as
    a fairy). Thus the parting "not that there's anything wrong..." (well-known
    Seinfeld reference).

    Sheesh.

  20. GeeDubb said:

    "MattB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    It hardy ever rains much here. When it does, it moves on quickly. Yeah, right!

    Thankfully we didn't ride in the hurricane Mitch and I drove through a few miles east of Montrose. Damn scary.

    I'd also like to offer a public thanks to you for riding with us in such lovely weather. It would have been very easy for you to
    decline. I think you felt obligated and I really appreciate you going anyway.

    Eh, it was no problem. You're welcome. It doesn't take much to talk me
    into a ride. I probably would have just been doing my honey-do's if I
    wasn't riding, so no biggie.

    Matt

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