RR (WR): A humbling experience

On Feb 11, 1:28 am, "Micheal Artindale" <[email hidden]>

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I am from Noerthern Ontario. I am used to hills, Granite, trees, dirt,
swamps, all the great eastern Canada stuff.

I now live in Victoria BC. Need I say more?

Going up 400 feet, and back down, in about the span of a km, is odd. And
painful. These things called m-o-u-n-t-a-i-n-s that you have out here, even
the little ones, are not even close to anything I ever have rode before.
Well, if you take what I have ridden before, and then make the hills
steeper, and longer, ok, then it would be simular.

I went to a place called Mount Work - Hartland Road Mountain Bike Park. The
easy stuff was worse thn the hard stuff I have been on, the hard stuff, I
didnt even hike in that. Hills are over 45 degrees. Wet trail surface, +10 C
day, all was adding to my humbling.

I rode about 5 KM of the park, if that. Most of the routes i took, I walked,
likely 75% of the trails.

I have a POS Department store bike, and although it did not give me
problems, except for the front forks and the handle bars went out of
alignment. I twisted it back, and tighened everything up as tight as i
could. I did learn why go full suspension, and what disc brakes are meant
for.

I am only out here likely till May, and plan more rides. If I stay here
longer, I would be getting a good bike, and use this one for going around
town.

I will likely be going to Halifax NS.

Anyone out here in the Victoria area wanna teach me to ride on these things
you call mountains?

(still recovering from the workout.)

Micheal Artindale

You just answered all of my questions posed in the baggy shorts
thread, barney.

JD

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You just answered all of my questions posed in the baggy shorts
thread, barney.

JD

Barney?

I am not purple or big

Micheal Artindale said:

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You just answered all of my questions posed in the baggy shorts
thread, barney.

JD

Barney?

I am not purple or big

Is that a fishhook and leader I see hanging from JD's yap,yup now he
really looks like a large mouth bass!

On Feb 11, 2:28 am, "Micheal Artindale" <[email hidden]>

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I am from Noerthern Ontario. I am used to hills, Granite, trees, dirt,
swamps, all the great eastern Canada stuff.

I now live in Victoria BC. Need I say more?

Going up 400 feet, and back down, in about the span of a km, is odd. And
painful. These things called m-o-u-n-t-a-i-n-s that you have out here, even
the little ones, are not even close to anything I ever have rode before.
Well, if you take what I have ridden before, and then make the hills
steeper, and longer, ok, then it would be simular.

I went to a place called Mount Work - Hartland Road Mountain Bike Park. The
easy stuff was worse thn the hard stuff I have been on, the hard stuff, I
didnt even hike in that. Hills are over 45 degrees. Wet trail surface, +10 C
day, all was adding to my humbling.

I rode about 5 KM of the park, if that. Most of the routes i took, I walked,
likely 75% of the trails.

I have a POS Department store bike, and although it did not give me
problems, except for the front forks and the handle bars went out of
alignment. I twisted it back, and tighened everything up as tight as i
could. I did learn why go full suspension, and what disc brakes are meant
for.

I am only out here likely till May, and plan more rides. If I stay here
longer, I would be getting a good bike, and use this one for going around
town.

I will likely be going to Halifax NS.

Anyone out here in the Victoria area wanna teach me to ride on these things
you call mountains?

(still recovering from the workout.)

Micheal Artindale

Welcome to the west. We likes em big out here...

CDB

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Welcome to the west. We likes em big out here...

CDB

I noticed. I am curious as to what would happen if I attempted some trails
that are on some of the high peaks.

Micheal

wizardB said:

Micheal Artindale said:

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You just answered all of my questions posed in the baggy shorts
thread, barney.

JD

Barney?

I am not purple or big

Is that a fishhook and leader I see hanging from JD's yap,yup now he
really looks like a large mouth bass!

I think you mean "large-mouth
ass".

On Feb 11, 6:16 pm, "Micheal Artindale" <[email hidden]>

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Welcome to the west. We likes em big out here...

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CDB

I noticed. I am curious as to what would happen if I attempted some trails
that are on some of the high peaks.

Micheal

You would probably blow off, just like the lightweight you are.

JD

Micheal Artindale said:

I am only out here likely till May, and plan more rides. If I stay here
longer, I would be getting a good bike, and use this one for going around
town.

A good bike will make them easier. Not much more doable, just easier.

The good news is you should be able to get in shape by May if you ride
regularly. That's just how cardio training works. You pick a challenge
that's harder or longer than what you're used to, it sucks, sometimes it
really sucks, then you do something like it again in a few days. You do
a little better. Repeat. Eventually you're riding up those mountains
that whipped your ass earlier.

This applies whether you're Lance Armstrong riding the amazing mountain
climbs of Europe, or Rosie O'Donnell dragging your fat ass off the couch
for the first time. Remember, mountains don't get easier, they just get
faster.

--
Lynn Wallace

If FDR fought fascism the way Bush fights terrorism, we'd all be
speaking German now.

On Feb 11, 7:16 pm, "Micheal Artindale" <[email hidden]>

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Welcome to the west. We likes em big out here...

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CDB

I noticed. I am curious as to what would happen if I attempted some trails
that are on some of the high peaks.

Micheal

As somebody mentioned, you build up to it. Our annual get-together in
the mtns of central Idaho that draws folks from several states almost
always has well-meaning dupes who think the riding out here must be
the same as riding back home, but they get up to 9,000 feet, with a
few hour long climbs at 300 to 500' per mile, and the party is
definitely over.

We had one guy one year that we almost had to carry out the last 4 or
5 miles, and it took a loooong time to finish that ride. Most all of
us ran out of water, because the prepared ones shared with the others
who wouldn't believe my instructions and figgerd they could just wing
it.

Same with Moab riding, (and presumably Fruita). They're such famous
riding destinations, that mediocre riders come out and bring their
kids and are shocked at how danged tough everything is. Some even
die. I hear Moab's cut in a few easier trails so the Barneys won't
be so spanked and angry when they finally get there and find that they
can't hardly ride anything.

Welcome to the west...

CDB

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On Feb 11, 7:16 pm, "Micheal Artindale" <[email hidden]>

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Welcome to the west. We likes em big out here...

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CDB

I noticed. I am curious as to what would happen if I attempted some
trails
that are on some of the high peaks.

Micheal

As somebody mentioned, you build up to it. Our annual get-together in
the mtns of central Idaho that draws folks from several states almost
always has well-meaning dupes who think the riding out here must be
the same as riding back home, but they get up to 9,000 feet, with a
few hour long climbs at 300 to 500' per mile, and the party is
definitely over.

Huh? That's when the party is just starting! :-)

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We had one guy one year that we almost had to carry out the last 4 or
5 miles, and it took a loooong time to finish that ride. Most all of
us ran out of water, because the prepared ones shared with the others
who wouldn't believe my instructions and figgerd they could just wing
it.

I didn't remember that or you quietly let it pass w/o making whomever feel
bad.

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Same with Moab riding, (and presumably Fruita). They're such famous
riding destinations, that mediocre riders come out and bring their
kids and are shocked at how danged tough everything is. Some even
die. I hear Moab's cut in a few easier trails so the Barneys won't
be so spanked and angry when they finally get there and find that they
can't hardly ride anything.

Welcome to the west...

Now go home.....

Gary (South and West)

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Welcome to the west...

Now go home.....

Gary (South and West)

A true curmudgeon in training! I think the one trailwork pose seals
the deal. It looks like you want to split a barney skull with that
rock bar.

JD

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On Feb 11, 7:16 pm, "Micheal Artindale" <[email hidden]>

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> Welcome to the west. We likes em big out here...

> CDB

I noticed. I am curious as to what would happen if I attempted some
trails
that are on some of the high peaks.

Micheal

As somebody mentioned, you build up to it. Our annual get-together in
the mtns of central Idaho that draws folks from several states almost
always has well-meaning dupes who think the riding out here must be
the same as riding back home, but they get up to 9,000 feet, with a
few hour long climbs at 300 to 500' per mile, and the party is
definitely over.

Huh? That's when the party is just starting! :-)

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We had one guy one year that we almost had to carry out the last 4 or
5 miles, and it took a loooong time to finish that ride. Most all of
us ran out of water, because the prepared ones shared with the others
who wouldn't believe my instructions and figgerd they could just wing
it.

I didn't remember that or you quietly let it pass w/o making whomever feel
bad.

That wasn't a reference to you, Gary.
;-)

Paladin said:

Same with Moab riding, (and presumably Fruita). They're such famous
riding destinations, that mediocre riders come out and bring their
kids and are shocked at how danged tough everything is. Some even
die. I hear Moab's cut in a few easier trails so the Barneys won't
be so spanked and angry when they finally get there and find that they
can't hardly ride anything.

Welcome to the west...

If they start with Klondike Bluffs, they'll get enough of a taste to
satisfy any newbie, without risking death by much. What a pleasant
little ride!

--
Lynn Wallace

If FDR fought fascism the way Bush fights terrorism, we'd all be
speaking German now.

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On Feb 11, 7:16 pm, "Micheal Artindale" <[email hidden]>
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> > Welcome to the west. We likes em big out here...
>
> > CDB
>
> I noticed. I am curious as to what would happen if I attempted some
> trails
> that are on some of the high peaks.
>
> Micheal

As somebody mentioned, you build up to it. Our annual get-together in
the mtns of central Idaho that draws folks from several states almost
always has well-meaning dupes who think the riding out here must be
the same as riding back home, but they get up to 9,000 feet, with a
few hour long climbs at 300 to 500' per mile, and the party is
definitely over.

Huh? That's when the party is just starting! :-)

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We had one guy one year that we almost had to carry out the last 4 or
5 miles, and it took a loooong time to finish that ride. Most all of
us ran out of water, because the prepared ones shared with the others
who wouldn't believe my instructions and figgerd they could just wing
it.

I didn't remember that or you quietly let it pass w/o making whomever
feel bad.

That wasn't a reference to you, Gary.
;-)

I knew that.....really. :-) I should have said I didn't remember hearing
that story prior to or being in Idaho. Come on, somebody spill the beans.
Who was it?

Gary (EG)

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Welcome to the west...

Now go home.....

Gary (South and West)

A true curmudgeon in training! I think the one trailwork pose seals
the deal. It looks like you want to split a barney skull with that
rock bar.

JD

remember I live in the land of snowbirds. We've been say "welcome.....now
go home" since I can remember.

I also don't ride well enough (technical stuff) to talk down to barneys.

But I'm working on it and how did you know I was carrying and working the
rock bar? (and pick....and McLeod)

Gary

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> On Feb 11, 7:16 pm, "Micheal Artindale" <[email hidden]>
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>> > Welcome to the west. We likes em big out here...

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>> >CDB

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>> I noticed. I am curious as to what would happen if I attempted some
>> trails
>> that are on some of the high peaks.

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>> Micheal

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> As somebody mentioned, you build up to it. Our annual get-together in
> the mtns of central Idaho that draws folks from several states almost
> always has well-meaning dupes who think the riding out here must be
> the same as riding back home, but they get up to 9,000 feet, with a
> few hour long climbs at 300 to 500' per mile, and the party is
> definitely over.

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Huh? That's when the party is just starting! :-)

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> We had one guy one year that we almost had to carry out the last 4 or
> 5 miles, and it took a loooong time to finish that ride. Most all of
> us ran out of water, because the prepared ones shared with the others
> who wouldn't believe my instructions and figgerd they could just wing
> it.

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I didn't remember that or you quietly let it pass w/o making whomever
feel bad.

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That wasn't a reference to you, Gary.
;-)

I knew that.....really. :-) I should have said I didn't remember hearing
that story prior to or being in Idaho. Come on, somebody spill the beans.
Who was it?

Gary (EG)

Sorry, we got the Vegas rule well in effect, but I don't think you'd
recognize the name, anyway. But let's just say if we ever have to
pair up on this board for search and rescue teams, Gab and I would
make a good pair. She graciously hung back on sweep to help spell me
and tag team keeping this dude alive... Penny wanted me to put him
down and get on with the ride.. (just kidding...)

Even old Jim (not Jimbosan, but a local boy, 57yrs old?) who crashed
hard on the switchbacks down to the river and busted some ribs one
year, finished the dang ride without slowing us down as much as this
particular guy...Jim even shared a huge turkey dinner that he'd packed
in on the bike.. 🙂

The year Jim and Carla came out, we had a couple teenagers, both great
athletes btw, join us at the last minute for the first few miles, with
only two water bottles between them. Once the going got tough,
though, they decided to bail and ride the gravity games at the nearby
ski resort... but by the end of that long ride, we were almost all out
of water. Then a few of us added a bonus of about 8 miles, and we did
run out of water until Penny's friend busted through the brush and
found an old pump handle at a cabin. I'll bet she can smell water
underground.

It's always an adventure, but our lips are sealed.

CDB
Were you thinking it musta been JD? :~D

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> Welcome to the west...

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Now go home.....

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Gary (South and West)

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A true curmudgeon in training! I think the one trailwork pose seals
the deal. It looks like you want to split a barney skull with that
rock bar.

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JD

remember I live in the land of snowbirds. We've been say "welcome.....now
go home" since I can remember.

The old SoCal version was "Tourists go home, but leave your
daughters."

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But I'm working on it and how did you know I was carrying and working the
rock bar? (and pick....and McLeod)

http://www.spokejunkies.com/forum/uploads/1171294180/gallery_2549_162_4455.jpg

JD

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But I'm working on it and how did you know I was carrying and working the
rock bar? (and pick....and McLeod)

http://www.spokejunkies.com/forum/uploads/1171294180/gallery_2549_162_4455.jpg

JD

duh!

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I knew that.....really. :-) I should have said I didn't remember
hearing
that story prior to or being in Idaho. Come on, somebody spill the
beans.
Who was it?

Gary (EG)

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CDB
Were you thinking it musta been JD? :~D

hehehehe, he's come a long way since then, baby!