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  1. Hmm... where do I begin. I guess I have to say that I have the best wife in
    the world who actually planned our first family (w/kid) around my love for
    biking. She isn't into biking at all.

    We arrived in Snowshoe Sunday afternoon and checked into the Rimfire. I
    went to the Adventure Center (bike shop) and bought a SixSixOne full face
    helmet. I could have rented one but where I live there aren't any LBS's
    that stock ANY FF helmets and I know I will use it all the time.

    Woke up on Monday @ 7:00 am and went to my car to put my bike together and
    bought a full day shuttle and FR park pass. I hit the shuttle side of the
    mountain first and went down the "Ball n' Jack and "Bandsaw" runs. Very
    impressive. I didn't wear any body armor because I thought these would be
    XC trails. Wrong! By the time I realized what I was in for I was way to
    far to go back. I got to the bottom, cleaning every section, and waited for
    the shuttle to arrive @ 8:00 AM. I really was surprised at how much rocks
    and roots there are there. It was a pretty technical run.

    http://www.pinkbike.com/modules/photo/?op=view&image=280858

    I was chastised by the shuttle driver for riding alone and I must admit he
    was and is right. I am not new to this kind of riding. He took me back up
    and I found I had a pinch flat in my rear tube. I brought every tool with
    me except tire levers! So I headed to the bike shop and got it fixed. They
    were very quick and pleasant to deal with and they changed out my rear tire
    (IRC Kujo bad choice there) to a Maxxis Mobster I had with me.

    I went back and got my armor and did another run but this time I tried to
    take the most twisty and roundabout way down the MT. I hit the "Bear Pin",
    "Birdland" and after looping "Bear Pin" again I hit the "Bandsaw" and "Ball
    n' Jack". Caught the shuttle and by then the lifts were getting ready to
    start up.

    So I hit the FR park next. I tried "E" first and dead sailored a ladder
    drop but I recovered and didn't wreck. You know the pics of the FR park do
    not do it justice. Everything is harder than it looks mainly because of the
    erosion in the runouts. I mean rocks and roots everywhere.. deep ruts to
    grab your front wheel are non-stop in the FR park. That makes easy drops
    way harder.

    Anyway it is hard for me to remember because I rode the lift at least 35
    times that day. I hit every run... "A" through "O" about 16 marked trails.
    I found about 4 more too. I also rode the MTN-X course too, very nicely
    setup. Most runs I rode twice in fact some I rode 4 times. By 4 PM I
    decided to call it quits and spend some time with my family. They had been
    out hiking and swimming. Amazingly I didn't wreck at all that day! I came
    close a couple times but I was able to grab a tree because it was a low
    speed situation.

    Tuesday was spent doing family stuff, horseback riding, put-put golf, hiking
    etc..

    http://www.pinkbike.com/modules/photo/?op=view&image=280848

    Wednesday I got the Bullit out again and rode the lift about 20 times. I
    rode every trail at least once more and went a little harder (teeter totter,
    drops, ladders etc.) than I did on Monday. I still reigned myself in
    because I was riding alone.

    Now here is the stupid part. The guy at the bike store actually gave me a
    free day shuttle pass! I wasn't planning on riding that side of the
    mountain again but I had a FREE PASS.

    I stopped by our room and told my wife "hey I am going to make on last run".

    http://www.pinkbike.com/modules/photo/?op=view&image=280847

    Bad idea, because I wrecked on the "Ball n' Jack" halfway down and cut a
    half moon flap in my upper lip. I got up and rode the rest of the way down
    without knowing how bad it was (no mirror) but I could feel the flap of skin
    moving around and I was swallowing blood. Basically I had to drive 30 miles
    to the nearest hospital and got 7 stitches, 2 of which are internal. I am
    sure it is going to scar quite a bit. But what the heck I still had an
    amazing time. Almost as good as I had in Norway and Sweden.

    By the time I got back to the room the sun was setting and we all watched it
    together. My son was so excited by it that all of my pain went away!

    http://www.pinkbike.com/modules/photo/?op=view&image=280849

    All in all it was a great trip and I am really impressed with the level of
    difficulty of the FR Park. I plan to head back to Snowshoe before winter.

    Scott (dropping Loomer)

  2. "Loomer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Hmm... where do I begin. I guess I have to say that I have the best wife


    in

    Quoted message said:

    the world who actually planned our first family (w/kid) around my love for
    biking. She isn't into biking at all.

    I meant to say planned our first family "vacation" around...

  3. Oh ya here is a pic of the cut.

    http://www.pinkbike.com/modules/photo/?op=view&image=280865

  4. "Loomer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    All in all it was a great trip and I am really impressed with the level of
    difficulty of the FR Park. I plan to head back to Snowshoe before winter.

    Scott (dropping Loomer)

    I though you were riding a DC fork? If you ever make it to Jersey, come on
    out to Mountain Creek with us.

    - CA-G

    Can-Am Girls Kick Ass!

  5. "Carla A-G" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Loomer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    All in all it was a great trip and I am really impressed with the level


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    difficulty of the FR Park. I plan to head back to Snowshoe before


    winter.

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    Scott (dropping Loomer)

    I though you were riding a DC fork? If you ever make it to Jersey, come on
    out to Mountain Creek with us.

    - CA-G

    Can-Am Girls Kick Ass!

    I ordered the DC slider plus but what came into my LBS was the 05 150mm
    Firefly... Decided to try it and I got an amazing deal on it. There were
    only two drop in's at Snowshoe that I would have prefered to have DC forks.
    The Firefly feels like it has more travel than the 170mm Jr T's I had been
    riding.

    I still have my 02 Jr T's but they have the QR dropouts. I am getting ready
    to sell them.

  6. <Scott
    Oh ya here is a pic of the cut.

    <http://www.pinkbike.com/modules/photo/?op=view&image=280865>

    Nice RR
    That lip looks "serious"

    Jimbo(san)

  7. On 2004-08-20, Scott penned:

    Quoted message said:

    Oh ya here is a pic of the cut.

    http://www.pinkbike.com/modules/photo/?op=view&image=280865

    Ouchie!

    That had to feel weird flapping around. Thinking of putting a piece of steel
    through it and calling it "body art"? *grin*

    --
    monique

    "Get a bicycle. You will not regret it, if you live."
    -- Mark Twain

  8. "Jimbo (san)" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    <Scott
    Oh ya here is a pic of the cut.

    <http://www.pinkbike.com/modules/photo/?op=view&image=280865>

    Nice RR
    That lip looks "serious"

    Jimbo(san)

    Actually it isn't as bad as the picture looks. The ER Doc really did a good
    job of stitching it up. It was deep but nothing but fatty tissue was cut,
    no nerves, muscle or tendons were severed. I was lucky.

    If it does scar bad I will get it taken care of in about 9 months. I have
    already talked to a specialist about that.

    The worst part will be some of the guys at work who are all middle aged
    "country club" types, they will really give me a hard time. A few years ago
    I wrecked on pavement and the side of my face was scraped up bad. They
    still bring that up. These are guys who can't appreciate taking risks based
    upon personal skill. Unless of course it is gambling. To me I gamble with
    riding and the payoff is "fun" and it is worth it. They don't understand
    that and I think some of them have lost touch with "fun" that isn't related
    to having more money, school and/or being better than someone else. So I
    will probably never hear the end of this. But then again my stitches will
    be out by the time I am back at work and I should have a pretty good
    moustache by then so maybe nobody will notice.

    I am 35 and I have been riding bikes off road and moto-x since I was 8. I
    do ride within my limits and I realize that as I get older I need to back
    off... and I do. But spills will happen and I accept that. I am not happy
    that I will have a scar on my face but to me the risk was worth the fun. I
    think some of you bikers out there know what I mean ;-)

  9. "Monique Y. Mudama" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On 2004-08-20, Scott penned:

    Quoted message said:

    Oh ya here is a pic of the cut.

    http://www.pinkbike.com/modules/photo/?op=view&image=280865

    Ouchie!

    That had to feel weird flapping around. Thinking of putting a piece of


    steel

    Quoted message said:

    through it and calling it "body art"? *grin*

    --
    monique

    "Get a bicycle. You will not regret it, if you live."
    -- Mark Twain

    Ya it did feel weird flapping around. At first I couldn't find where the
    blood was coming from. I thought I broke my nose but then I felt the flap!
    I waited till it clotted and then rode from where I wrecked (still on the
    DH). Weird thing was it wasn't even a sketchy section and if was going
    faster I would have had the momentum to get out of the rain runt and not hit
    the log that was laying in the rut. I just remember knowing that I was
    about to go over the bars about 6' before the log and looking for a place to
    fall and roll. My front wheel went into the 8" rut before I thought it
    would and that screwed up my fall plan. I hit my face into some rocks that
    were about the size of my head and then I heard the bike in the air passing
    over me. I couldn't believe I didn't get hit with the bike.

    I was actually very lucky.

    I am not into the body art thing unless it is tattoos.

  10. On 2004-08-20, Scott penned:

    Quoted message said:

    "Jimbo (san)" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    <Scott Oh ya here is a pic of the cut.

    <http://www.pinkbike.com/modules/photo/?op=view&image=280865>

    Nice RR That lip looks "serious"

    Jimbo(san)

    Actually it isn't as bad as the picture looks. The ER Doc really did a good
    job of stitching it up. It was deep but nothing but fatty tissue was cut,
    no nerves, muscle or tendons were severed. I was lucky.

    If it does scar bad I will get it taken care of in about 9 months. I have
    already talked to a specialist about that.

    The worst part will be some of the guys at work who are all middle aged
    "country club" types, they will really give me a hard time. A few years ago
    I wrecked on pavement and the side of my face was scraped up bad. They
    still bring that up. These are guys who can't appreciate taking risks based
    upon personal skill. Unless of course it is gambling. To me I gamble with
    riding and the payoff is "fun" and it is worth it. They don't understand
    that and I think some of them have lost touch with "fun" that isn't related
    to having more money, school and/or being better than someone else. So I
    will probably never hear the end of this. But then again my stitches will
    be out by the time I am back at work and I should have a pretty good
    moustache by then so maybe nobody will notice.

    I can't imagine why you would care about what "middle aged country club
    types" think, unless you think they would stiff you on raises and such
    because of it. They don't get it. They don't have to. I'd much rather
    have a scar from challenging myself (have some of those) than from
    tripping over my dog's leash or running into a basketball pole (have
    some of those, too).

    Quoted message said:

    I am 35 and I have been riding bikes off road and moto-x since I was 8. I
    do ride within my limits and I realize that as I get older I need to back
    off... and I do. But spills will happen and I accept that. I am not happy
    that I will have a scar on my face but to me the risk was worth the fun. I
    think some of you bikers out there know what I mean ;-)

    Chicks dig scars =)

    Here are the lyrics to a song I like about all our little imperfections:

    http://www.danah.org/Ani/Imperfectly/Imperfectly.html

    --
    monique

    "Get a bicycle. You will not regret it, if you live."
    -- Mark Twain

  11. "Monique Y. Mudama" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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    I can't imagine why you would care about what "middle aged country club
    types" think, unless you think they would stiff you on raises and such
    because of it.

    Mostly because I am too sensitive. I learned when I was younger to
    appreciate how lucky I am to be sensitive but they still get to me once in
    awhile.

    Quoted message said:

    They don't get it. They don't have to. I'd much rather
    have a scar from challenging myself (have some of those) than from
    tripping over my dog's leash or running into a basketball pole (have
    some of those, too).

    Agreed.

    Quoted message said:

    Here are the lyrics to a song I like about all our little imperfections:

    http://www.danah.org/Ani/Imperfectly/Imperfectly.html

    --
    monique

    "Get a bicycle. You will not regret it, if you live."
    -- Mark Twain

    Isn't that an Ani Difranco song? I met her once in Erie PA at a coffee
    house called Cupachino's.

  12. On 2004-08-20, Scott penned:

    Quoted message said:

    "Monique Y. Mudama" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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    I can't imagine why you would care about what "middle aged country club
    types" think, unless you think they would stiff you on raises and such
    because of it.

    Mostly because I am too sensitive. I learned when I was younger to
    appreciate how lucky I am to be sensitive but they still get to me once in
    awhile.

    Yeah, it happens. I've turned it into kind of a game -- freak out the
    cud-chewers by displaying my new injuries prominently. I always wear
    shorts right after I get a nasty bruise on my leg. Hey, I'm proud of my
    achievements! *grin*

    Then again, I met a mtb racer who told me that a complete stranger
    actually walked up to her and said, "I hope and pray that my daughter's
    legs never look like yours." (meaning the scars.) I think that would
    leave me as speechless as it left her. Rude [censored].

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Here are the lyrics to a song I like about all our little imperfections:

    http://www.danah.org/Ani/Imperfectly/Imperfectly.html


    Isn't that an Ani Difranco song? I met her once in Erie PA at a coffee
    house called Cupachino's.

    Lucky [censored]! It is. I've seen her in concert more times than I can count,
    most recently just a couple of weeks ago at Red Rocks, but I've never met her.
    I'd just say something stupid, I'm sure. "I'm your biggest fan -- but not in
    a stalker sense. Honest. Um ... so anyway ..."

    --
    monique

    "Get a bicycle. You will not regret it, if you live."
    -- Mark Twain

  13. On 2004-08-20, Scott penned:

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    I am not into the body art thing unless it is tattoos.

    I was mostly joking -- you don't seem like the piercings type. But some folks
    would do it, I'm sure.

    --
    monique

    "Get a bicycle. You will not regret it, if you live."
    -- Mark Twain

  14. Quoted message said:

    Lucky [censored]! It is. I've seen her in concert more times than I can


    count,

    Quoted message said:

    most recently just a couple of weeks ago at Red Rocks, but I've never met


    her.

    Quoted message said:

    I'd just say something stupid, I'm sure. "I'm your biggest fan -- but not


    in

    Quoted message said:

    a stalker sense. Honest. Um ... so anyway ..."

    Well this was around 91 or so I had only heard about here via the undergound
    music scene. I really didn't know anything about her personal life I just
    thought she was a really good songwriter. When I met her I didn't even have
    an idea of what she looked like I had only heard her music. She was very
    cool and down to earth. Later on when she got bigger I realized who she
    really was.

  15. "Monique Y. Mudama" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    Lucky [censored]! It is. I've seen her in concert more times than I can


    count,

    Quoted message said:

    most recently just a couple of weeks ago at Red Rocks, but I've never met


    her.

    Quoted message said:

    I'd just say something stupid, I'm sure. "I'm your biggest fan -- but not


    in

    Quoted message said:

    a stalker sense. Honest. Um ... so anyway ..."

    Actually as far as female songwriters go I think PJ Harvey is the greatest
    living example.

    If you haven't heard her you should go out and buy the album "Rid of Me"
    right now. She is really amazing. She plays all of the guitar parts,
    writes all the music and of course sings. She has so much personality and
    fire in her playing and singing. The production is a little rough but in a
    good way. To me her music is like the three primary colors (any color is
    possible)... she has a few musical tools but the ones that she has she can
    create anything with.

  16. Scott said:

    "Loomer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Hmm... where do I begin. I guess I have to say that I have the best wife


    in

    Quoted message said:

    the world who actually planned our first family (w/kid) around my love for
    biking. She isn't into biking at all.

    I meant to say planned our first family "vacation" around...

    Shoulda left it the first way - it sounded really impressive (babies only
    in the off-season?)!

    --
    -BB-
    To reply to me, drop the attitude (from my e-mail address, at least)

  17. On 2004-08-20, Scott penned:

    Quoted message said:

    "Monique Y. Mudama" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    Lucky [censored]! It is. I've seen her in concert more times than I
    can count, most recently just a couple of weeks ago at Red Rocks, but
    I've never met her. I'd just say something stupid, I'm sure. "I'm
    your biggest fan -- but not in a stalker sense. Honest. Um ... so
    anyway ..."

    Actually as far as female songwriters go I think PJ Harvey is the
    greatest living example.

    If you haven't heard her you should go out and buy the album "Rid of
    Me" right now. She is really amazing. She plays all of the guitar
    parts, writes all the music and of course sings. She has so much
    personality and fire in her playing and singing. The production is a
    little rough but in a good way. To me her music is like the three
    primary colors (any color is possible)... she has a few musical tools
    but the ones that she has she can create anything with.

    I've listened to some PJ Harvey now and then, but never paid much attention.
    Maybe I'll give her another chance.

    Have you listened to Poe's album Haunted? It's one of those that tells
    a story from first song to last, so it's definitely best to listen to it
    as an album and not in "chunks." It's highly polished and pretty
    amazing.

    It's been interesting hearing how Ani's music has changed over the years
    -- from a girl with a guitar to incorporating a band, to actually
    bringing in different instrument sections for different songs. Every
    concert I've attended has been wildly different -- you never know what
    to expect, but you know that it will be passionate and very skillful.
    Also, I love how Ani gets right out there and addresses real issues. I
    don't always agree with her, but I like the fact that she speaks up.
    There's an Ani quote for almost every occasion =)

    --
    monique

    "Get a bicycle. You will not regret it, if you live."
    -- Mark Twain

  18. On 2004-08-20, BB penned:

    Quoted message said:
    Scott said:

    "Loomer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hmm... where do I begin. I guess I have to say that I have the best wife


    in

    Quoted message said:

    the world who actually planned our first family (w/kid) around my love for
    biking. She isn't into biking at all.

    I meant to say planned our first family "vacation" around...

    Shoulda left it the first way - it sounded really impressive (babies only in
    the off-season?)!

    Yeah, that's how I read it at first!

    --
    monique

    "Get a bicycle. You will not regret it, if you live."
    -- Mark Twain

  19. Scott said:

    The worst part will be some of the guys at work who are all middle aged
    "country club" types, they will really give me a hard time.

    Ah, a lot of us live with that. Especially us middle-aged "non-country
    club" types. I've invited guys on rides when they come up for business
    trips a few times, and I try to match up the ride with what they SAY their
    skill level is, but every single time they ended up in some pretty
    spectacular crashes. Nice thing about crashing in the lush greenery of
    Oregon, no one ever really got hurt very bad. But despite the fact that I
    managed to guide one guy through a crash-less ride last year, I still
    have a rather dubious reputation at work. :-)

    Quoted message said:

    off... and I do. But spills will happen and I accept that. I am not happy
    that I will have a scar on my face but to me the risk was worth the fun. I
    think some of you bikers out there know what I mean ;-)

    Well, it doesn't look like it'll be disfiguring or anything...just a great
    conversation starter!

    Nice RR...heal up!

    --
    -BB-
    To reply to me, drop the attitude (from my e-mail address, at least)

  20. Scott said:

    Actually as far as female songwriters go I think PJ Harvey is the greatest
    living example.

    Wow, totally veering off-topic, but to one of my favs. I don't know what
    it is, but I just can't get into PJ Harvey. I hear her from time to time
    on KCRW. I prefer Beth Orton (a British gal), and I have high hopes for
    Rachael Yamagata - she's got a voice that will blow you away. I met her
    last June; with any luck she'll be the second star I've met (I had a short
    conversation and shook hands with Billy Joel on his Glass Houses tour; its
    a crazy story involving a considerable amount of alcohol!).

    --
    -BB-
    To reply to me, drop the attitude (from my e-mail address, at least)

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