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  1. I only found out about this ride following a regular posting on this
    very newsgroup by one of the organisers. Having given up all hope of
    ever doing L'Etape, and with the Marmotte weekend booked up for an
    unavoidable commitment, I investigated. Turns out it is the biggest
    organised ride in France with up to 15000 riders, of varying distances
    from 60-270km (and up to 500km over 2 or 3 days with pre-booked
    accommodation). In a period of pre-Christmas SAD I decided to go for
    it. I had just received the Bike Events brochure which featured a
    package to it. Their prices for entry and transport were less than
    inspiring (and I'm dubious of companies which give free entry in return
    for charitable donations) so after a lot of searching of the French
    website (the English version was out of date by a year) found the forum
    which eventually led to an entry form, filled it in, posted it and
    hoped. In the meantime booked Ryanair to St Etienne, 64km from the
    start.
    Eventually sometime around mid February my name appeared in the list of
    entries, I was in!

    The good thing about the event is that everyone starts the same course
    and loops back after their chosen distance. Having read a Cycling Plus
    article about it I was apprehensive about choosing my route and
    arriving at the cut-off point to be directed down a short-cut by
    gendarmes. But a search of the rules showed that I had 3 ½ hrs to get
    to the 50km mark and 4 to the 70. Easy by UK standards but what of the
    terrain? April's Elenith 300 actually involved more climbing albeit
    over 300k so I was hopeful.

    I soon gave up on the idea of bodging panniers onto my nice frame and
    decided that car hire would be less dosh than the likely damage to the
    bike; this also gave me the option for extras (see later).

    The day duly arrived. I have done bike-on-a-plane a few times and am
    used to travelling with bike, map, toothbrush. passport and little else
    so it felt like luxury to have an entire holdall on one shoulder and a
    bike bag on the other (especially as the bike bag is a recent
    refinement, previously it was an old remodelled TV box and lots of
    parcel tape and bubble wrap, binned at the other end and re-scavenged
    for the return from various housing / industrial estates)
    An uneventful journey to London followed by several looks as I trudged
    through the City (don't do the Tube) saw me on the Stansted Express.

    An on time landing, having to act as an American to English to French
    translator at the car hire depot (what is a station wagon? also a word
    of warning; check the fuel gauge before you drive off and if it is not
    full get them to amend the booking form) and a pleasant drive up to the
    HQ of the ride at St Felicien, which had become Lycraworld (Mr
    Clarkson, when you are eventually found guilty of crimes against
    humanity you will be forced to spend the third weekend of June for the
    rest of your natural life here). I arrived just as the 2 day riders
    were pitching up in a cherry grove for the night so decided to join
    them ; the registration hall having closed for the day. The next
    morning I was awoken by frenzied activity as hundreds more cars
    attempted to park on top of my tent and lots of very trick bikes were
    unloaded.

    I made the most of a large packet of pains chocolat and decent coffee
    from the hypermarket and rode up to the HQ; where a very helpful lady
    filled me in on the details and advised me to park down in the valley
    in an idyllic spot near to a babbling stream (aka fridge) all free for
    riders. I rode back with several litres of water for the "fridge"
    and managed to overbalance and wipe out in the village (grazed elbow
    and knee). I then went for a quick 45km spin to try the terrain, en
    route I saw the Cycle Rides campsite; I think I came up trumps!

    The next morning I was again awoken at 0530 to find my pleasant spot
    filled with bikes cars track pumps and lycra (there is a truly awful
    theme song for the ride which features more or less these lyrics in
    French, which I was treated to a live rendition of later). I took
    advantage of my privileged advanced start position as a non-French
    rider and was at the head of the queue an hour before the start. Not
    the best time to discover you have a broken Look cleat, but this is
    France so that was all sorted pronto!

    0730 and we were off; with the aforesaid theme tune piped through the
    PA (as if to speed us on our way!) and no soon had we descended the
    first 1km that we were on a 10km col; an awesome experience for my
    first sportif; being passed by wave after wave of fully kitted club
    riders on serious bikes reminded me that this was no Audax. The first
    col was rewarded by a fantastic 15km descent to Lamastre which, in
    common with all the other places en route, was decked out in the ride
    colours of yellow/lilac (balloons, ribbons, flowers, old bikes,
    sculptures, even people!). At this point all the fancy dress that were
    still with us riders peeled off on the 66km route (still very serious
    by fun ride standards) and another two fast cols on closed roads took
    us to the first drink station at Le Cheylard and 50k, where a lot of
    riders peeled off for the 120km route; between here and the 70km 1100m
    col I learned the knack of taking 3 cups of water at each station
    whilst riding (two down my throat and the third over my head). At the
    70km Col de Mezillac; where I rode with one of the Cycle Rides
    contingent. there was a full on control, almost as long as the bar at
    the GBBF, where there was full range of bread, cheese, cakes, fruit,
    meat, drinks etc etc all manned by willing and enthusiastic volunteers.
    It was at this point that I had the choice of continuing with the 216km
    route or cutting short to 171km; but as I was 90mins up on the cut-off
    limit I decided to do down rather than along. After this point I
    realised why I found myself riding alone at times; at the bottom of the
    valley a 650 then 800 col, and then le piece de resistance, a 700m 13km
    hairpin (it was at this point that another thing uncommon on many AUK
    rides, the sun, decided to remind us of its presence). A helpful local
    was handing out free Pernod which amazingly a few took advantage of.
    Those of the Gallic tongue will appreciate the passing comment I got
    whilst resting in the shade "Donc vous avez decouvris les montagnes;
    Anglais de merd"
    Several stops and another overcast but welcome feed stop later I was
    snapped at the 1407m summit of the ride by an enterprising photographer
    who pressed a flyer into my hand. And the second best bit of the ride;
    a 25km 850m fast descent. Weeeeeh!. It carried on in a similar fashion
    until 10 cols had been crested and several more cups of water had found
    their way onto my digital camera before the best bit of all; the end of
    the last vicious climb which had been fortuitously signposted with
    gradients for the 66km'ers (and most of the musicians on each hairpin
    had gone home by now) and a straight 14km back down the last col to
    the finish. 11h 36 for the 216km, although as a Brit I was classified
    as an anonymous tourist so got no placing. After a tense wait at the
    podium whilst they gave away some serious prizes in the raffle;
    (including a Cannondale Saeco) it was into the shower and back to my
    nice (and by now deserted) camping spot. The next day dawned and just
    160km away were 21 hairpins with my name on it (well not quite, some
    much more famous names!) but that's another story.

    An excellent event, would I do it again? Ask me in a few weeks ;-)

    www.ardechoise.com

  2. in message <[email hidden]>,

    MartinM (') said:

    I only found out about this ride following a regular posting on this
    very newsgroup by one of the organisers. Having given up all hope of
    ever doing L'Etape, and with the Marmotte weekend booked up for an
    unavoidable commitment, I investigated. Turns out it is the biggest
    organised ride in France with up to 15000 riders, of varying distances
    from 60-270km (and up to 500km over 2 or 3 days with pre-booked
    accommodation).

    Brilliant report. Can you stick it on a website somewhere?

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
    ;; Our modern industrial economy takes a mountain covered with trees,
    ;; lakes, running streams and transforms it into a mountain of junk,
    ;; garbage, slime pits, and debris. -- Edward Abbey

  3. Simon Brooke said:

    in message <[email hidden]>,

    MartinM (') said:

    I only found out about this ride following a regular posting on this
    very newsgroup by one of the organisers. Having given up all hope of
    ever doing L'Etape, and with the Marmotte weekend booked up for an
    unavoidable commitment, I investigated. Turns out it is the biggest
    organised ride in France with up to 15000 riders, of varying distances
    from 60-270km (and up to 500km over 2 or 3 days with pre-booked
    accommodation).

    Brilliant report. Can you stick it on a website somewhere?

    It's up here:

    http://tinyurl.com/dx6na

    or if you prefer, here:

    http://tinyurl.com/bdag2

    :-)

    James
    --
    James Annan
    see web pages for email
    http://www.ne.jp/asahi/julesandjames/home/
    http://julesandjames.blogspot.com/

  4. James Annan said:
    Simon Brooke said:

    in message <[email hidden]>,

    MartinM (') said:

    I only found out about this ride following a regular posting on this
    very newsgroup by one of the organisers. Having given up all hope of
    ever doing L'Etape, and with the Marmotte weekend booked up for an
    unavoidable commitment, I investigated. Turns out it is the biggest
    organised ride in France with up to 15000 riders, of varying distances
    from 60-270km (and up to 500km over 2 or 3 days with pre-booked
    accommodation).

    Brilliant report. Can you stick it on a website somewhere?

    It's up here:

    http://tinyurl.com/dx6na

    or if you prefer, here:

    http://tinyurl.com/bdag2

    I might send it to AUK for the magazine; but not strictly their thing.
    Next year's foray could be even better; found out about it in the bike
    shop in Bourg d'Oisans where they also hire bikes for Huez; a 257km
    randonee to and from Grenoble which does Galibier, Telegraphe and Croix
    de Fer (but not Huez). It's actually on this Sunday if anyone is in the
    area.

    http://www.ctg.free.fr

  5. On 21 Jun 2005 03:02:00 -0700, "MartinM" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    <snip>

    Great stuff Martin. Inspiring.

    Quoted message said:

    I might send it to AUK for the magazine; but not strictly their thing.
    Next year's foray could be even better; found out about it in the bike
    shop in Bourg d'Oisans where they also hire bikes for Huez;

    Been there, hired the bike, bought the short sleeved cycling top.

    Tim

  6. Tim Hall said:

    On 21 Jun 2005 03:02:00 -0700, "MartinM" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    <snip>

    Great stuff Martin. Inspiring.

    Quoted message said:

    I might send it to AUK for the magazine; but not strictly their thing.
    Next year's foray could be even better; found out about it in the bike
    shop in Bourg d'Oisans where they also hire bikes for Huez;

    Been there, hired the bike, bought the short sleeved cycling top.

    Yes I read your report from a couple of years ago; did it have a
    triple? mine didn't (although I wished it had). Pretty uninspiring at
    the top, deserted. There is now an impressive information board at the
    bottom with a large picture of Lance.
    I saw the jerseys; but spent my money on an Ardechoise top instead; but
    haven't worn it yet, the washing machine is full as it is.

  7. MartinM <[email hidden]> wrote:
    : Next year's foray could be even better; found out about it in the bike
    : shop in Bourg d'Oisans where they also hire bikes for Huez; a 257km
    : randonee to and from Grenoble which does Galibier, Telegraphe and Croix
    : de Fer (but not Huez). It's actually on this Sunday if anyone is in the
    : area.

    For my money, I'd much rather do La Marmotte (and did, last year). The valley
    road up from Grenoble is narrow, busy and unpleasant. It'll be ok at the
    ungodly hour of the mornnig you'll be starting at but much less pleasant
    at the end of the ride when it's very busy, hot and you're tired (though
    it will be very gently downhill at least)

    Arthur

    --
    Arthur Clune PGP/GPG Key: http://www.clune.org/pubkey.txt
    The struggle of people against power is the struggle
    of memory against forgetting - Milan Kundera

  8. Arthur Clune said:

    MartinM <[email hidden]> wrote:
    : Next year's foray could be even better; found out about it in the bike
    : shop in Bourg d'Oisans where they also hire bikes for Huez; a 257km
    : randonee to and from Grenoble which does Galibier, Telegraphe and Croix
    : de Fer (but not Huez). It's actually on this Sunday if anyone is in the
    : area.

    For my money, I'd much rather do La Marmotte (and did, last year). The valley
    road up from Grenoble is narrow, busy and unpleasant. It'll be ok at the
    ungodly hour of the mornnig you'll be starting at but much less pleasant
    at the end of the ride when it's very busy, hot and you're tired (though
    it will be very gently downhill at least)

    I drove down that very road yesterday; lots and lots of cyclists; most
    drivers were giving them plenty of room. Don't fancy la Marmotte as
    there is no way I'm riding up AdH ever again. The other advantage is it
    does not require a hire car from Grenoble. No way I am ever driving all
    the way down there either.

  9. MartinM <[email hidden]> wrote:

    : I drove down that very road yesterday; lots and lots of cyclists; most
    : drivers were giving them plenty of room. Don't fancy la Marmotte as
    : there is no way I'm riding up AdH ever again. The other advantage is it
    : does not require a hire car from Grenoble. No way I am ever driving all
    : the way down there either.

    There's always the Marmotten, which just misses out the AdH.

    When I did the Marmote, two of our party rode over to AdH and up the
    road from Grenoble. They found it very unpleasant, and it certainly
    looked it driving up.

    Arthur

    --
    Arthur Clune PGP/GPG Key: http://www.clune.org/pubkey.txt
    The struggle of people against power is the struggle
    of memory against forgetting - Milan Kundera

  10. Arthur Clune said:

    MartinM <[email hidden]> wrote:

    : I drove down that very road yesterday; lots and lots of cyclists; most
    : drivers were giving them plenty of room. Don't fancy la Marmotte as
    : there is no way I'm riding up AdH ever again. The other advantage is it
    : does not require a hire car from Grenoble. No way I am ever driving all
    : the way down there either.

    There's always the Marmotten, which just misses out the AdH.

    Sounds good; is there a link to it? can't find one, or your ride
    report. Some others in the club were going to do it this year but it
    all fell apart, may do it next year if I can avoid AdH. It can't have
    much less climbing than the ctg ride. BTW drove up to Galibier on
    Sunday, it was absolutely awful, rain and hail with new snow on the
    tops, even though down at Bourg it was scorching all day.

  11. MartinM <[email hidden]> wrote:

    : Sounds good; is there a link to it? can't find one, or your ride
    : report. Some others in the club were going to do it this year but it
    : all fell apart, may do it next year if I can avoid AdH. It can't have
    : much less climbing than the ctg ride. BTW drove up to Galibier on
    : Sunday, it was absolutely awful, rain and hail with new snow on the
    : tops, even though down at Bourg it was scorching all day.

    The Marmotten is not a separate ride as such. You just start the Marmotte
    and if you want to stop at the bottom, then you just stop there and get
    a time/certificate etc, missing out the last climb.

    My report on the Marmotte is here:

    http://www.cliftoncc.org/static.php?content=marmotte04

    --
    Arthur Clune PGP/GPG Key: http://www.clune.org/pubkey.txt
    The struggle of people against power is the struggle
    of memory against forgetting - Milan Kundera

  12. Arthur Clune said:

    My report on the Marmotte is here:

    thanks, great report; I will try to get back there next year; still
    erring towards the Brevet though, sounds more my standard, and no shame
    in not doing AdH as it's not on the ride.

  13. MartinM <[email hidden]> wrote:
    : erring towards the Brevet though, sounds more my standard, and no shame
    : in not doing AdH as it's not on the ride.

    I'm sure you'll enjoy either. I wouldn't have said that the Marmotte is much
    harder than the Brevet though. You get AdH at the end, but fewer miles.

    Arthur

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    Arthur Clune PGP/GPG Key: http://www.clune.org/pubkey.txt
    The struggle of people against power is the struggle
    of memory against forgetting - Milan Kundera

  14. MartinM said:

    An excellent event, would I do it again? Ask me in a few weeks ;-)

    Glad you had a good time, Martin. Wish I'd taken up the offer now. A bit too
    close to our summer hols though. Maybe next year as I can only realistically
    get one fancy foreign cycling trip past the management.

    I'm riding the Wessex 3D on Sunday. It's a 1am start; don't know how I'll
    organise any decent sleep around that -- probably just won't bother.

  15. simonb wrote:

    Glad you had a good time, Martin. Wish I'd taken up the offer now. A
    bit too
    close to our summer hols though. Maybe next year as I can only
    realistically
    get one fancy foreign cycling trip past the management.

    I'm riding the Wessex 3D on Sunday. It's a 1am start; don't know how
    I'll
    organise any decent sleep around that -- probably just won't bother.

    good luck; that's a 300 I assume?

    see you for the Tour of the Hills? got my route sheet the other day.
    Will christen my nice new Ardechoise top.

    I think it's looking like the alps next year; either the BRA or
    Marmotte. Flights to Grenoble are better for me as well.

  16. MartinM said:

    good luck; that's a 300 I assume?

    Yes it is. Lumpy too. Looking forward to it.

    Quoted message said:

    see you for the Tour of the Hills?

    Will do.

  17. Arthur Clune said:

    MartinM <[email hidden]> wrote:
    : erring towards the Brevet though, sounds more my standard, and no shame
    : in not doing AdH as it's not on the ride.

    I'm sure you'll enjoy either. I wouldn't have said that the Marmotte is much
    harder than the Brevet though. You get AdH at the end, but fewer miles.

    Arthur

    the extra distance doesn't bother me as long as the ridiculous climbing
    is no more; I think Galibier will be the kill-or-cure as it is uphill
    all the way from Grenoble to the top.

    I see you're from York; I was passed by a chap in a York cycleworks
    jersey (only because I was shading myself from the 35o sun ;-0) on the
    ride; perhaps you know him?

  18. MartinM <[email hidden]> wrote:

    : I see you're from York; I was passed by a chap in a York cycleworks
    : jersey (only because I was shading myself from the 35o sun ;-0) on the
    : ride; perhaps you know him?

    Probably, but I don't know which one it was!

    --
    Arthur Clune PGP/GPG Key: http://www.clune.org/pubkey.txt
    The struggle of people against power is the struggle
    of memory against forgetting - Milan Kundera

  19. and if you don't believe me when I say how bad the theme song is:

    http://www.velovelo.com/article.php3?id_article=2782

  20. Simonb said:
    MartinM said:

    good luck; that's a 300 I assume?

    Yes it is. Lumpy too. Looking forward to it.

    Quoted message said:

    see you for the Tour of the Hills?

    Will do.

    How did you get on? lots of tales of derring do across the road re this
    ride; must say if I was going to stay up all night I would prefer to do
    it on a 400.

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