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  1. I finally got my new Rockhopper comp on dirt yesterday, after three
    weeks of diddling around on the road and sidewalk. (Other things sapping
    my time and energy.) Nothing epic, just enough to get it dirty and
    re-acquaint myself with rigid riding. I bought the hardtail because I
    was getting soft on the bike. The 7 year old FSX I finally sold to a
    buddy for $200 was like driving a Caddy over rocks and stuff.

    It takes more energy to hold your line as the bike transmits the little
    bumps to your butt, and the rear tire bounces around the trail surface.
    You've just got to suck it up and sprint the tiny gear through those
    sections, faster than it takes on a squishy bike. Fortunately the bike's
    lighter, but it doesn't FEEL lighter on a 40% grade.

    I still haven't tried much more radical technical sections (I'm not too
    proud to push), but I think the reliable feedback will actually help me
    ride more rock gardens than the FSX ride did.

    Downhill, you'd better lift your sensitive hiney off the saddle to avoid
    the puree' effect. That takes a bit more energy than just riding along
    on an air-ride suspension.

    All in all, I think I'm gonna like this bike. On the road or buff, I put
    the hammer down and the bike MOVES. Almost like the road bike - I might
    even decide to clean all the mud off.

    --
    Lynn Wallace http://www.xmission.com/~lawall
    I have nothing but contempt and anger for those who betray the
    trust by exposing the name of our sources. They are, in my view,
    the most insidious of traitors."
    George H.W. Bush, April 16, 1999,

  2. Raptor said:

    Downhill, you'd better lift your sensitive hiney off the saddle to avoid
    the puree' effect. That takes a bit more energy than just riding along
    on an air-ride suspension.

    Buck up and put a rigid fork on it.

    JD

  3. JD said:
    Raptor said:

    Downhill, you'd better lift your sensitive hiney off the saddle to avoid
    the puree' effect. That takes a bit more energy than just riding along
    on an air-ride suspension.

    Buck up and put a rigid fork on it.

    JD

    In a decade or so, I think I'll have traded in enough short vertical
    challenges for the more mundane every-day difficulty of a singlespeed. I
    need to grow more gray hairs before I get that old-school.

    --
    Lynn Wallace http://www.xmission.com/~lawall
    I have nothing but contempt and anger for those who betray the
    trust by exposing the name of our sources. They are, in my view,
    the most insidious of traitors."
    George H.W. Bush, April 16, 1999,

  4. Theres a time and place for every kind. I keep two hard tails and two
    FS for trail use. Two rid for commuting. One FS for town & country. One
    3 speed for around town and beer runs.

  5. Quoted message said:

    Theres a time and place for every kind. I keep two hard tails and two
    FS for trail use. Two rid for commuting. One FS for town & country. One
    3 speed for around town and beer runs.

    I thought you were going to get ride og the 3speed?

    JD

  6. Quoted message said:

    Theres a time and place for every kind. I keep two hard tails and two
    FS for trail use. Two rid for commuting. One FS for town & country. One
    3 speed for around town and beer runs.

    Something I don't understand. I don't know what I'd do with *three*
    bikes. My mtb is tough enough for any riding I want to do, and my roadie
    is fast enough for any other riding I want to do.

    Not that owning more bikes than you really need is a character flaw or
    anything.

    --
    Lynn Wallace http://www.xmission.com/~lawall
    I have nothing but contempt and anger for those who betray the
    trust by exposing the name of our sources. They are, in my view,
    the most insidious of traitors."
    George H.W. Bush, April 16, 1999,

  7. I did get rid of one heavy 3 speed. Heavy Metal Sammy Haggar style. And
    a pain to just to fix a flat. Mountain bike 10 minutes fiix a flat time
    goes to an hour or more with the 3 speed. Looking at donate to the
    homeless.

  8. Raptor said:
    Quoted message said:

    Theres a time and place for every kind. I keep two hard tails and two
    FS for trail use. Two rid for commuting. One FS for town & country. One
    3 speed for around town and beer runs.

    Something I don't understand. I don't know what I'd do with *three*
    bikes. My mtb is tough enough for any riding I want to do, and my roadie
    is fast enough for any other riding I want to do.

    Not that owning more bikes than you really need is a character flaw or
    anything.

    --
    Lynn Wallace http://www.xmission.com/~lawall
    I have nothing but contempt and anger for those who betray the
    trust by exposing the name of our sources. They are, in my view,
    the most insidious of traitors."
    George H.W. Bush, April 16, 1999,

    2 MTBs, a track, a fixie, a road, a townie, a tandem, 2 folding bikes,
    my GF's cruiser, the critical mass bike... and I'm just getting
    started.
    SERIOUSLY flawed. "Need" is a relative thing.

    /s

  9. Quoted message said:

    I did get rid of one heavy 3 speed. Heavy Metal Sammy Haggar style. And
    a pain to just to fix a flat. Mountain bike 10 minutes fiix a flat time
    goes to an hour or more with the 3 speed. Looking at donate to the
    homeless.

    Throw it at Liberator!

  10. "Scott Gordo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    2 MTBs, a track, a fixie, a road, a townie, a tandem, 2 folding bikes,
    my GF's cruiser, the critical mass bike... and I'm just getting
    started.
    SERIOUSLY flawed. "Need" is a relative thing.

    Dayum, you got quite a collection. We have pared down our collection quite a
    bit. Currently (between Jim and I) we have: 2 track bikes, 2 singlespeeds, 2
    road bikes, 2 department store bikes (for commuting, grocery shopping, beer
    runs and running general errands), 1 trials bike and another being built, 1
    hardtail, 1 full suspension and we just added a new one to our
    collection...someone threw away a 1967 Raleigh (made in England) cruiser in
    mint condition. All it needs are new tires and tubes, its a beauty!

    - CA-G

    Can-Am Girls Kick Ass!

  11. Carla A-G said:

    "Scott Gordo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    2 MTBs, a track, a fixie, a road, a townie, a tandem, 2 folding bikes,
    my GF's cruiser, the critical mass bike... and I'm just getting
    started.
    SERIOUSLY flawed. "Need" is a relative thing.

    Dayum, you got quite a collection. We have pared down our collection quite a
    bit. Currently (between Jim and I) we have: 2 track bikes, 2 singlespeeds, 2
    road bikes, 2 department store bikes (for commuting, grocery shopping, beer
    runs and running general errands), 1 trials bike and another being built, 1
    hardtail, 1 full suspension and we just added a new one to our
    collection...someone threw away a 1967 Raleigh (made in England) cruiser in
    mint condition. All it needs are new tires and tubes, its a beauty!

    - CA-G

    Can-Am Girls Kick Ass!

    Schweet about the Raleigh. Pea green with Sturmey? Ain't nothing
    sweeter than free, stylin' bikes. It's what dreams are made of. From a
    proud past to the garbage heap, back to a vaunted position.

    I built my brother a nice beater Nishiki with Sugino/SR/Suntour indexed
    road bike a couple years ago, which he used primarily on a trainer
    until he recently bought himself a swanky Spesh Roubaix. I wanted to
    reconfigure the Nishiki for my GF who has recently expressed interest.
    Last night I asked him to return it. "That bike? I threw it away."
    "What?! Why?"
    Blankly, he replied, "The bottom bracket was loose."
    I had to count to ten before I was able to speak again.
    My brother, my brother, I love you, I respect you, but goddamn it I'll
    never understand you. Made me want to put a Zippo to that piece of
    plastic he's riding now.

    Grrr....
    /s

  12. Scott Gordo said:

    Schweet about the Raleigh. Pea green with Sturmey? >

    A bootyfull Royal blue... Three speed Sturmy Archer....
    The bike must have been left in a basement it has a few sctraches...but
    is basically in great condition.... It has a non leather brooks
    saddle... Very charming.. I am stopping off at an old skool LBS tonight
    to get tires and tubes.

    <Ain't nothing sweeter than free, stylin' bikes. It's what dreams are
    made of. From a

    Quoted message said:

    proud past to the garbage heap, back to a vaunted position.>

    Oh yeah!!! I was in disbelief that someone was throwing it away... I
    had to ask the person if I could take it.. andf they told me... Go
    ahead it's like old!

    Quoted message said:

    I built my brother a nice beater Nishiki with Sugino/SR/Suntour indexed
    road bike a couple years ago, which he used primarily on a trainer
    until he recently bought himself a swanky Spesh Roubaix. I wanted to
    reconfigure the Nishiki for my GF who has recently expressed interest.
    Last night I asked him to return it. "That bike? I threw it away."
    "What?! Why?"
    Blankly, he replied, "The bottom bracket was loose.">

    What a crime!!!

    Quoted message said:

    Made me want to put a Zippo to that piece of
    plastic he's riding now.>


    heh... May I reccomend a magnifying glass on the next sunny day?

    I get to take the POS Walmart bike and leave it somewhere it will get
    taken

    Jimbo(san)

  13. MattB said:
    Quoted message said:

    I did get rid of one heavy 3 speed. Heavy Metal Sammy Haggar style. And
    a pain to just to fix a flat. Mountain bike 10 minutes fiix a flat time
    goes to an hour or more with the 3 speed. Looking at donate to the
    homeless.

    Throw it at Liberator!

    Yeah, I'll use it to carry my bed.

  14. MattB said:
    Quoted message said:

    I did get rid of one heavy 3 speed. Heavy Metal Sammy Haggar style. And
    a pain to just to fix a flat. Mountain bike 10 minutes fiix a flat time
    goes to an hour or more with the 3 speed. Looking at donate to the
    homeless.

    Throw it at Liberator!

    Yeah, so he has to have it surgically removed.

    JD

  15. JD said:
    MattB said:
    Quoted message said:

    I did get rid of one heavy 3 speed. Heavy Metal Sammy Haggar style. And
    a pain to just to fix a flat. Mountain bike 10 minutes fiix a flat time
    goes to an hour or more with the 3 speed. Looking at donate to the
    homeless.

    Throw it at Liberator!

    Yeah, so he has to have it surgically removed.

    JD

    So call then.

  16. On Sun, 04 Jun 2006 13:50:20 -0600, Raptor <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    I finally got my new Rockhopper comp on dirt yesterday, after three
    weeks of diddling around on the road and sidewalk. (Other things sapping
    my time and energy.) Nothing epic, just enough to get it dirty and
    re-acquaint myself with rigid riding. I bought the hardtail because I
    was getting soft on the bike. The 7 year old FSX I finally sold to a
    buddy for $200 was like driving a Caddy over rocks and stuff.

    It takes more energy to hold your line as the bike transmits the little
    bumps to your butt, and the rear tire bounces around the trail surface.
    You've just got to suck it up and sprint the tiny gear through those
    sections, faster than it takes on a squishy bike. Fortunately the bike's
    lighter, but it doesn't FEEL lighter on a 40% grade.

    I still haven't tried much more radical technical sections (I'm not too
    proud to push), but I think the reliable feedback will actually help me
    ride more rock gardens than the FSX ride did.

    Downhill, you'd better lift your sensitive hiney off the saddle to avoid
    the puree' effect. That takes a bit more energy than just riding along
    on an air-ride suspension.

    All in all, I think I'm gonna like this bike. On the road or buff, I put
    the hammer down and the bike MOVES. Almost like the road bike - I might
    even decide to clean all the mud off.

    I've just gone from a over decade old bike, completely rigid frame to
    a front suspension hard tail. Hard tails are easier. 😉

    later,

    tom

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