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  1. This is practically the first nice weekend we've had all summer. July
    set records for rain. So it is a real treat to load the hardtails onto
    the Honda and head down to Ellicottville to hit the singletrack at
    Holiday Valley. Putting the bikes onto the rack, I mention to my wife
    that the eight year old Thule rack on the Honda is looking pretty
    ratty: we should really think about retiring it and picking up a Yakima
    rack for the new Subaru. Next season.

    We hit E-ville around 10:30, unload the gear and roll. The ride begins
    as it always does here, with a 1 1/2 mile doubletrack climb to the top
    of the hill. All the singletrack is off the back side. I think the fix
    has been paying off for all these rainy days: I manage to make the
    whole climb in the middle ring for the first time. Cool. We cruise back
    on the singletrack and run Big Merlin, always a highlight of this trail
    system. A fast, swoopy singletrack traverse with lots of nasty little
    rooty sections to keep you on your toes. It's Flow City. I feel great,
    and I ride smooth and clean. My wife brings up the rear, but I never
    have to wait long for her to catch up. We knock off 11 miles or so,
    capped off with a rocking descent back down the doubletrack to the car.
    We load up, and then stop ten feet out.

    "Did we lock your bike on the rack?" I ask my wife.

    "I don't remember."

    She gets out, checks to make sure the bike is secure, and we're off.

    We stop off at the E-ville Brewing Company for an excellent malty
    German Red and some lunch. The bartender makes sad noises about how he
    wants to be out on his bike instead of tending bar. Only two and a half
    more hours in his shift. We finish our lunch and another couple of
    beers, wish him well on his afternoon ride, and hit the road. We stop
    at a roadside Wal-Mart to pick up some propane so I can do rosin
    potatoes and a rack of ribs on the barbie tonight. We drive off, the
    propane tank rattling around in the back of the car. We merge onto U.S.
    219 heading north to Buffalo, and I spin the car up to 70 mph.

    Suddenly: BANG! *POW*! Oh, [censored].

    "What was THAT?" says my wife, as I look in my rearview mirror to see a
    black Klein Attitude race tumbling end-over-end down the center of the
    freeway.

    "We lost a bike. Yours."

    I stop on the shoulder and throw the Honda in reverse, roll the hundred
    yards back to where the bike is laying in the road, traffic quickly
    approaching. I pull it out in time. It's got a bent brake lever and a
    big scratch on the downtube, but no serious damage is evident. The
    Thule rack is trashed:

    <http://www.angelfire.com/ab6/corvuscorvax/failure.jpg>

    Later analysis when we get home indicates the failure was operator
    error. She forgot to strap down the back wheel, and the bike came off
    the tray and snapped the fork mount. Whups. My poor wife is sitting
    around looking Really Glum. I say we were damn lucky. We'll take it to
    the LBS and make sure the frame wasn't bent, but it looks like the bike
    survived pretty well.

    One good reason to have everybody secure their own steed on the rack:
    nobody to blame but yourself if it gets [censored] up.

    CC

  2. On 2004-08-08, Corvus Corvax penned:

    Quoted message said:


    One good reason to have everybody secure their own steed on the rack:
    nobody to blame but yourself if it gets [censored] up.

    Good point.

    I hope your LBS guys give the bike the green light.

    --
    monique

    "Get a bicycle. You will not regret it, if you live."
    -- Mark Twain

  3. "Corvus Corvax" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    This is practically the first nice weekend we've had all summer. July
    set records for rain. So it is a real treat to load the hardtails onto
    the Honda and head down to Ellicottville to hit the singletrack at
    Holiday Valley.

    Singletrack at Holiday Valley? Whoa...I used to ski there in another life.

    Pete

  4. fwiw, i always lock my bike to the car's railing ... that way it is
    guaranteed to beat the [censored] out of my car when it finally comes off,
    rather than end up in traffic.


  5. Quoted message said:

    One good reason to have everybody secure their own steed on the rack:
    nobody to blame but yourself if it gets [censored] up.

    CC

    Consider getting one of these if you like roofracks. Basically the same
    systems used by buses. Can handle any type of bike, quick load and almost
    mistake proof.

    http://www.sportworks.com/stbob.asp

  6. "Corvus Corvax" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    This is practically the first nice weekend we've had all summer. July
    set records for rain. So it is a real treat to load the hardtails onto
    the Honda and head down to Ellicottville to hit the singletrack at
    Holiday Valley. Putting the bikes onto the rack, I mention to my wife
    that the eight year old Thule rack on the Honda is looking pretty
    ratty: we should really think about retiring it and picking up a Yakima
    rack for the new Subaru. Next season.

    We hit E-ville around 10:30, unload the gear and roll. The ride begins
    as it always does here, with a 1 1/2 mile doubletrack climb to the top
    of the hill. All the singletrack is off the back side. I think the fix
    has been paying off for all these rainy days: I manage to make the
    whole climb in the middle ring for the first time. Cool. We cruise back
    on the singletrack and run Big Merlin, always a highlight of this trail
    system. A fast, swoopy singletrack traverse with lots of nasty little
    rooty sections to keep you on your toes. It's Flow City. I feel great,
    and I ride smooth and clean. My wife brings up the rear, but I never
    have to wait long for her to catch up. We knock off 11 miles or so,
    capped off with a rocking descent back down the doubletrack to the car.
    We load up, and then stop ten feet out.

    "Did we lock your bike on the rack?" I ask my wife.

    "I don't remember."

    She gets out, checks to make sure the bike is secure, and we're off.

    We stop off at the E-ville Brewing Company for an excellent malty
    German Red and some lunch. The bartender makes sad noises about how he
    wants to be out on his bike instead of tending bar. Only two and a half
    more hours in his shift. We finish our lunch and another couple of
    beers, wish him well on his afternoon ride, and hit the road. We stop
    at a roadside Wal-Mart to pick up some propane so I can do rosin
    potatoes and a rack of ribs on the barbie tonight. We drive off, the
    propane tank rattling around in the back of the car. We merge onto U.S.
    219 heading north to Buffalo, and I spin the car up to 70 mph.

    I've been to that Wal-mart. ;^)

    Sorry to hear about the bike. I highly recommend the Yakima King Cobra as a
    replacement rack. It'll hold a 45lb DH bike securely. It can be adjusted
    from 20" to 700c wheels. No front wheel removal required.

    Mike

  7. socks says:

    Quoted message said:

    fwiw, i always lock my bike to the car's railing ...

    Also FWIW, I always take a piece of rope, goes from the front cross-bar , up
    around the top-tube with a clove hitch (one o' them knot things) and down to
    the cross-bar the other side of the bike.
    Even if the back wheel comes out of the tray, and the fork-mount snaps, it is
    still tied to the car. I started it when I didn't trust the fork mount to hold
    the bike upright, and have comntinued cos it just seemd to make sense.

    Steve "OCD?"

  8. On 8 Aug 2004 15:39:20 -0700, "Corvus Corvax" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    This is practically the first nice weekend we've had all summer. July
    set records for rain.

    .... trails are just now getting close to perfect down here in MD.

    Quoted message said:

    "Did we lock your bike on the rack?" I ask my wife.

    "I don't remember."

    She gets out, checks to make sure the bike is secure, and we're off.

    Quoted message said:

    Suddenly: BANG! *POW*! Oh, [censored].

    "We lost a bike. Yours."

    <http://www.angelfire.com/ab6/corvuscorvax/failure.jpg>

    BRUTAL!

    Quoted message said:

    One good reason to have everybody secure their own steed on the rack:
    nobody to blame but yourself if it gets [censored] up.

    CC

    Peace,
    Bill

  9. Corvus Corvax said:

    This is practically the first nice weekend we've had all summer. July
    set records for rain. So it is a real treat to load the hardtails onto
    the Honda and head down to Ellicottville to hit the singletrack at
    Holiday Valley. Putting the bikes onto the rack, I mention to my wife
    that the eight year old Thule rack on the Honda is looking pretty
    ratty: we should really think about retiring it and picking up a
    Yakima rack for the new Subaru. Next season.

    {Cue Ominous Music}

    {snip}

    Quoted message said:

    Suddenly: BANG! *POW*! Oh, [censored].

    "What was THAT?" says my wife, as I look in my rearview mirror to see
    a black Klein Attitude race tumbling end-over-end down the center of
    the freeway.

    "We lost a bike. Yours."

    I stop on the shoulder and throw the Honda in reverse, roll the
    hundred yards back to where the bike is laying in the road, traffic
    quickly approaching. I pull it out in time. It's got a bent brake
    lever and a big scratch on the downtube, but no serious damage is
    evident. The Thule rack is trashed:

    <http://www.angelfire.com/ab6/corvuscorvax/failure.jpg>

    Later analysis when we get home indicates the failure was operator
    error. She forgot to strap down the back wheel, and the bike came off
    the tray and snapped the fork mount. Whups. My poor wife is sitting
    around looking Really Glum. I say we were damn lucky. We'll take it to
    the LBS and make sure the frame wasn't bent, but it looks like the
    bike survived pretty well.

    On my old Subaru beater-wagon, I had four trays up top, so one of the
    outside ones was facing backwards. I finished a ride and loaded my Fisher
    Paragon on the rack, and started down the freeway. Suddenly, BOOM! I too
    had neglected to strap down the rear wheel, so the bike swung around and
    crashed into the rear of the car, hanging by its fork dropouts (POS Manitou
    Mach 5, btw; thing almost killed me but that's another story). Could have
    been very ugly; lucked out with just a dent...IN THE CAR (so who cares)!

    Now I always turn the cranks backwards when the bike is mounted: "spin to
    win" reminds me to check the wheel lash.

    Quoted message said:

    One good reason to have everybody secure their own steed on the rack:
    nobody to blame but yourself if it gets [censored] up.

    Indeed.

    Bill "glad it wasn't worse (and it sure could have been)" S.

  10. Corvus Corvax said:

    One good reason to have everybody secure their own steed on the rack:
    nobody to blame but yourself if it gets [censored] up.

    Might be interesting to you:
    http://www.singletrackworld.com/article.php?sid=1412

  11. Pete said:

    "Corvus Corvax" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    This is practically the first nice weekend we've had all summer. July
    set records for rain. So it is a real treat to load the hardtails onto
    the Honda and head down to Ellicottville to hit the singletrack at
    Holiday Valley.

    Singletrack at Holiday Valley? Whoa...I used to ski there in another life.

    Pete

    Same here. The yearly catskills trip with my parents.

    --
    o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
    www.schnauzers.ws

  12. Michael Dart said:

    "Corvus Corvax" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    This is practically the first nice weekend we've had all summer. July
    set records for rain. So it is a real treat to load the hardtails onto
    the Honda and head down to Ellicottville to hit the singletrack at
    Holiday Valley. Putting the bikes onto the rack, I mention to my wife
    that the eight year old Thule rack on the Honda is looking pretty
    ratty: we should really think about retiring it and picking up a Yakima
    rack for the new Subaru. Next season.

    We hit E-ville around 10:30, unload the gear and roll. The ride begins
    as it always does here, with a 1 1/2 mile doubletrack climb to the top
    of the hill. All the singletrack is off the back side. I think the fix
    has been paying off for all these rainy days: I manage to make the
    whole climb in the middle ring for the first time. Cool. We cruise back
    on the singletrack and run Big Merlin, always a highlight of this trail
    system. A fast, swoopy singletrack traverse with lots of nasty little
    rooty sections to keep you on your toes. It's Flow City. I feel great,
    and I ride smooth and clean. My wife brings up the rear, but I never
    have to wait long for her to catch up. We knock off 11 miles or so,
    capped off with a rocking descent back down the doubletrack to the car.
    We load up, and then stop ten feet out.

    "Did we lock your bike on the rack?" I ask my wife.

    "I don't remember."

    She gets out, checks to make sure the bike is secure, and we're off.

    We stop off at the E-ville Brewing Company for an excellent malty
    German Red and some lunch. The bartender makes sad noises about how he
    wants to be out on his bike instead of tending bar. Only two and a half
    more hours in his shift. We finish our lunch and another couple of
    beers, wish him well on his afternoon ride, and hit the road. We stop
    at a roadside Wal-Mart to pick up some propane so I can do rosin
    potatoes and a rack of ribs on the barbie tonight. We drive off, the
    propane tank rattling around in the back of the car. We merge onto U.S.
    219 heading north to Buffalo, and I spin the car up to 70 mph.

    I've been to that Wal-mart. ;^)

    Sorry to hear about the bike. I highly recommend the Yakima King Cobra as a
    replacement rack. It'll hold a 45lb DH bike securely. It can be adjusted
    from 20" to 700c wheels. No front wheel removal required.

    Mike

    I've got two of those on my car. It's great to not have to take off the
    front wheel and mess up my hydros. It'll carry anything.

    --
    o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
    www.schnauzers.ws

  13. bomba said:


    Corvus Corvax said:

    One good reason to have everybody secure their own steed on the rack:
    nobody to blame but yourself if it gets [censored] up.

    Might be interesting to you:
    http://www.singletrackworld.com/article.php?sid=1412

    Whoa! Interesting reading, especially with the number of racers that use
    roof racks.

    Linda and I use a system that holds the bike on the rack mounted to the
    trailer hitch. I have to use an adaptor bar for my bike, owing to the
    frame shape, but I also use a safety strap in case the adaptor lets go.

    The only reason we have a trailer hitch is for the bikes. That gets me a
    strange look when someone asks me what Linda and I tow with a 4-cylinder
    Honda (which gets THEM a strange look). Our little car has taken us to
    some pretty cool trailheads though...
    --
    - Rog

    http://www.wpcusrgrp.org/~rogerbuchanan/index.html

    NOTE: to Reply to this, remove the phrase "NOSPAM"
    from my "Reply To:" address, or it will be returned.

  14. "Ride-A-Lot" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Pete said:

    "Corvus Corvax" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    This is practically the first nice weekend we've had all summer. July
    set records for rain. So it is a real treat to load the hardtails onto
    the Honda and head down to Ellicottville to hit the singletrack at
    Holiday Valley.

    Singletrack at Holiday Valley? Whoa...I used to ski there in another


    life.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Pete

    Same here. The yearly catskills trip with my parents.

    It's a long way from the Catskills. Holiday Valley is in Western NY.

    Mike

  15. "Corvus Corvax" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:


    Suddenly: BANG! *POW*! Oh, [censored].

    "What was THAT?" says my wife, as I look in my rearview mirror to see a
    black Klein Attitude race tumbling end-over-end down the center of the
    freeway.

    "We lost a bike. Yours."

    I stop on the shoulder and throw the Honda in reverse, roll the hundred
    yards back to where the bike is laying in the road, traffic quickly
    approaching. I pull it out in time. It's got a bent brake lever and a
    big scratch on the downtube, but no serious damage is evident. The
    Thule rack is trashed:

    Quoted message said:


    CC

    Aw MAN! Couldn't see the pic, but... aw MAN!

    /s

  16. "Corvus Corvax" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    This is practically the first nice weekend we've had all summer. July
    set records for rain. So it is a real treat to load the hardtails onto
    the Honda and head down to Ellicottville to hit the singletrack at
    Holiday Valley.... <snip>

    Sounded like fun...

    Quoted message said:

    "Did we lock your bike on the rack?" I ask my wife.

    "I don't remember."

    She gets out, checks to make sure the bike is secure, and we're off.

    We stop off at the E-ville Brewing Company for an excellent malty
    German Red and some lunch. >


    More fun

    Quoted message said:

    Suddenly: BANG! *POW*! Oh, [censored].

    "What was THAT?" says my wife, as I look in my rearview mirror to see a
    black Klein Attitude race tumbling end-over-end down the center of the
    freeway.

    "We lost a bike. Yours."

    That sux! I am very sorry for J and her little black steed!
    Please give her my condolences...
    We just got the bikes back from Fed-Ex... cross your fingers and spokes

    Quoted message said:


    One good reason to have everybody secure their own steed on the rack:
    nobody to blame but yourself if it gets [censored] up.

    CC

    Good policy... I have learned my lesson

    Jimbo(san)

  17. On 2004-08-09, Ride-A-Lot penned:

    Quoted message said:


    I've got two of those on my car. It's great to not have to take off
    the front wheel and mess up my hydros. It'll carry anything.

    Except, iirc, y-frame bikes.

    --
    monique

    "Get a bicycle. You will not regret it, if you live."
    -- Mark Twain

  18. Corvus Corvax said:

    Later analysis when we get home indicates the failure was operator
    error. She forgot to strap down the back wheel, and the bike came off
    the tray and snapped the fork mount. Whups. My poor wife is sitting
    around looking Really Glum. I say we were damn lucky. We'll take it to
    the LBS and make sure the frame wasn't bent, but it looks like the bike
    survived pretty well.

    That *is* damn lucky. Glad nobody was hurt other than the equipment.

    Quoted message said:

    One good reason to have everybody secure their own steed on the rack:
    nobody to blame but yourself if it gets [censored] up.

    And check it every time before you take off..."somebody" undid the tire
    strap on one of my friend's bikes (he suspects it was an attempted theft)
    & he didn't notice it before he took off. Lost his bike in front of a
    semi.

    gabrielle

  19. "Monique Y. Mudama" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On 2004-08-09, Ride-A-Lot penned:

    Quoted message said:


    I've got two of those on my car. It's great to not have to take off
    the front wheel and mess up my hydros. It'll carry anything.

    Except, iirc, y-frame bikes.

    No, I think your thinking of a different rack. The King Cobra holds the
    bike by the front wheel and is adjustable from 20" to 700C. The rear sits
    in a tray and uses a standard ratchet strap. Nothing touches the frame so
    frame design/shape does not matter. You just roll the bike in and lock it
    down. Check it out on http://www.yakima.com

    Mike

  20. On 2004-08-10, Michael Dart penned:

    Quoted message said:


    "Monique Y. Mudama" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On 2004-08-09, Ride-A-Lot penned:

    Quoted message said:


    I've got two of those on my car. It's great to not have to take
    off the front wheel and mess up my hydros. It'll carry anything.

    Except, iirc, y-frame bikes.

    No, I think your thinking of a different rack. The King Cobra holds
    the bike by the front wheel and is adjustable from 20" to 700C. The
    rear sits in a tray and uses a standard ratchet strap. Nothing
    touches the frame so frame design/shape does not matter. You just
    roll the bike in and lock it down. Check it out on
    http://www.yakima.com

    Hrm. Wonder what I was thinking of.

    --
    monique

    "Get a bicycle. You will not regret it, if you live."
    -- Mark Twain

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