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  1. Got together with some of the gals, some I knew and some I didn't for the
    infamous Gold Hill switchbacks ride up at Sandpoint today. I had been told,
    oh it's not so bad by the gal who was putting it together, and then Ti-man
    said, oh you'll really get your butt kicked!! So, what to expect? 2000' in
    four miles or so. Seeing as I think I suck on switchbacks, I expect the
    worst, pack the armor for the way down and load up and go.

    When we get there, Lisa #1 rolls her eyes about the 'butt kicking" and as
    she knows Ti-man too we have a good laugh. Since the trail starts up
    immediately, Lisa #2, who is a top notch personal trainer, takes us through
    a nice parking lot warm-up session. ( gotta love friends) and yes, we
    start straight up. It's a long steady grade, good granny gear material, but
    whoever built this thing... all I can say is "wow".... they knew how to
    build what IMBA calls rolling switch backs, and lots of them. None of the
    V shaped nasty pointy things, ( which is what I was expecting) but lovely U
    shaped turns that you just power up and around. And another one. And
    another one. And another one. This baby butt smooth trails slowly works
    it's way across and up the hill, through deep shaded forest. After about 20
    switchbacks (??? Are we there yet?) We take a break at one of the overlooks.

    http://www.cet.com/~pennys/misc/goldhill.jpg

    "almost there" She says. OK... we are all hanging in there, strung out along
    the trail, all keeping a moderate but steady climbing pace up this thing..
    it's really kind of fun, that hill climbing groove -- you never know when
    the traverse will turn into another switchback... push and look around...
    and just keep going! At top, we stop for a quick bite, and then down into
    forest, on a branch trail, oh-so-smooth and then we get to go down a few
    more of these fun rolling turns. Eventually we come out on a logging road
    that's either the turn around point, or the way down. If you had a choice...
    which would you do, 50+ rolling switchbacks down the hill on baby butt
    smooth trail through the shaded forest, or a logging road? That's a no
    brainer if I ever heard one.

    We have an easy spin back to the top, Lisa #1 makes sure we don't miss the
    turn off and then... drop back into the forest for fun, fun, fun. Too bad
    my odometer died or I'd tell how fast we were going. It's funny tho...
    traversing/blasting down the trail, and due to the vegetation you never knew
    where the next downhill switchback was until you were just about on top of
    it. So you couldn't go "too" fast. Oh, god, these are a blast... you just
    look around the turn and the
    bike follows you. There are so many, I decide to really concentrate on my
    weak right turn side too... yes, look turn success, look turn success...
    all but six of the rt hand turns
    were cleaned without a dab. Those others... well, they were pointy and had
    edges to them... ;-)

    then before ya know it... all done, and the vote is for Mexican food post
    ride.

    penny

  2. On 2004-07-21, pas penned:

    Quoted message said:

    Oh, god, these are a blast... you just look around the turn and the
    bike follows you.

    I'm hooked. Where do I sign up?

    --
    monique

    "Get a bicycle. You will not regret it, if you live."
    -- Mark Twain

  3. pas said:

    Got together with some of the gals, some I knew and some I didn't for the
    infamous Gold Hill switchbacks ride up at Sandpoint today. I had been told,
    oh it's not so bad by the gal who was putting it together, and then Ti-man
    said, oh you'll really get your butt kicked!! So, what to expect? 2000' in
    four miles or so. Seeing as I think I suck on switchbacks, I expect the
    worst, pack the armor for the way down and load up and go.

    When we get there, Lisa #1 rolls her eyes about the 'butt kicking" and as
    she knows Ti-man too we have a good laugh. Since the trail starts up
    immediately, Lisa #2, who is a top notch personal trainer, takes us through
    a nice parking lot warm-up session. ( gotta love friends) and yes, we
    start straight up. It's a long steady grade, good granny gear material, but
    whoever built this thing... all I can say is "wow".... they knew how to
    build what IMBA calls rolling switch backs, and lots of them. None of the
    V shaped nasty pointy things, ( which is what I was expecting) but lovely U
    shaped turns that you just power up and around. And another one. And
    another one. And another one. This baby butt smooth trails slowly works
    it's way across and up the hill, through deep shaded forest. After about 20
    switchbacks (??? Are we there yet?) We take a break at one of the overlooks.

    http://www.cet.com/~pennys/misc/goldhill.jpg

    "almost there" She says. OK... we are all hanging in there, strung out along
    the trail, all keeping a moderate but steady climbing pace up this thing..
    it's really kind of fun, that hill climbing groove -- you never know when
    the traverse will turn into another switchback... push and look around...
    and just keep going! At top, we stop for a quick bite, and then down into
    forest, on a branch trail, oh-so-smooth and then we get to go down a few
    more of these fun rolling turns. Eventually we come out on a logging road
    that's either the turn around point, or the way down. If you had a choice...
    which would you do, 50+ rolling switchbacks down the hill on baby butt
    smooth trail through the shaded forest, or a logging road? That's a no
    brainer if I ever heard one.

    We have an easy spin back to the top, Lisa #1 makes sure we don't miss the
    turn off and then... drop back into the forest for fun, fun, fun. Too bad
    my odometer died or I'd tell how fast we were going. It's funny tho...
    traversing/blasting down the trail, and due to the vegetation you never knew
    where the next downhill switchback was until you were just about on top of
    it. So you couldn't go "too" fast. Oh, god, these are a blast... you just
    look around the turn and the
    bike follows you. There are so many, I decide to really concentrate on my
    weak right turn side too... yes, look turn success, look turn success...
    all but six of the rt hand turns
    were cleaned without a dab. Those others... well, they were pointy and had
    edges to them... ;-)

    then before ya know it... all done, and the vote is for Mexican food post
    ride.

    penny


    penny, give-in to the *Dark* side... you're nearly there...
    give-in... resistance is futile!

    --
    Slacker

  4. Slacker said:

    pas wrote:>>

    Quoted message said:

    We have an easy spin back to the top, Lisa #1 makes sure we don't
    miss the turn off and then... drop back into the forest for fun,
    fun, fun. Too bad my odometer died or I'd tell how fast we were
    going. It's funny tho... traversing/blasting down the trail, and
    due to the vegetation you never knew where the next downhill
    switchback was until you were just about on top of it. So you
    couldn't go "too" fast. Oh, god, these are a blast... you just look
    around the turn and the bike follows you. There are so many, I
    decide to really concentrate on my weak right turn side too...
    yes, look turn success, look turn success... all but six of the rt
    hand turns were cleaned without a dab. Those others... well, they
    were pointy and had edges to them... ;-)

    then before ya know it... all done, and the vote is for Mexican food
    post ride.

    penny


    penny, give-in to the *Dark* side... you're nearly there...
    give-in... resistance is futile!

    not a chance, I was appreciating the fact that the trail hasn't been
    thrashed by ignorant skidiots on 50 pig bikes... no way they'd ever ride up
    that thing. Plus, I left out the part about being second to last on the way
    down. ;-)

    penny

  5. pas said:
    Slacker said:

    pas wrote:>>

    Quoted message said:

    We have an easy spin back to the top, Lisa #1 makes sure we don't
    miss the turn off and then... drop back into the forest for fun,
    fun, fun. Too bad my odometer died or I'd tell how fast we were
    going. It's funny tho... traversing/blasting down the trail, and
    due to the vegetation you never knew where the next downhill
    switchback was until you were just about on top of it. So you
    couldn't go "too" fast. Oh, god, these are a blast... you just look
    around the turn and the bike follows you. There are so many, I
    decide to really concentrate on my weak right turn side too...
    yes, look turn success, look turn success... all but six of the rt
    hand turns were cleaned without a dab. Those others... well, they
    were pointy and had edges to them... ;-)

    then before ya know it... all done, and the vote is for Mexican food
    post ride.

    penny


    penny, give-in to the *Dark* side... you're nearly there...
    give-in... resistance is futile!

    not a chance, I was appreciating the fact that the trail hasn't been
    thrashed by ignorant skidiots on 50 pig bikes... no way they'd ever
    ride up that thing. Plus, I left out the part about being second to
    last on the way down. ;-)

    penny

    er um that should read 50 # big bikes.....


  6. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    penny, give-in to the *Dark* side... you're nearly there...
    give-in... resistance is futile!

    not a chance, I was appreciating the fact that the trail hasn't been
    thrashed by ignorant skidiots on 50 pig bikes... no way they'd ever ride


    up

    Quoted message said:

    that thing. Plus, I left out the part about being second to last on the


    way

    Quoted message said:

    down. ;-)

    penny


    I would...Even on my pig bike. I like to climb the stuff I ride down.
    Don't count all pig bikes out. Just the pigs that ride them.

    TJ
    www.gvii.net/hundtoft
    www.fatboy.s5.com

  7. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Slacker said:

    penny, give-in to the *Dark* side... you're nearly there...
    give-in... resistance is futile!

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    not a chance, I was appreciating the fact that the trail hasn't been
    thrashed by ignorant skidiots on 50 pig bikes... no way they'd ever
    ride up that thing. Plus, I left out the part about being second to
    last on the way down. ;-)

    penny

    er um that should read 50 # big bikes.....


    "We" know exactly what you meant, JD.

    --
    Slacker - oink oink oink

  8. "pas" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Got together with some of the gals, some I knew and some I didn't for the
    infamous Gold Hill switchbacks ride up at Sandpoint today. >
    http://www.cet.com/~pennys/misc/goldhill.jpg

    Nice. Cheers Penny.

    Steve.

  9. "Slacker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Slacker wrote:

    >penny, give-in to the *Dark* side... you're nearly there...
    >give-in... resistance is futile!

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    not a chance, I was appreciating the fact that the trail hasn't been
    thrashed by ignorant skidiots on 50 pig bikes... no way they'd ever
    ride up that thing. Plus, I left out the part about being second to
    last on the way down. ;-)

    penny

    er um that should read 50 # big bikes.....


    "We" know exactly what you meant, JD.

    Besides, mine is only a shade over 40#. ;^)

    Mike

  10. TJ said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    penny, give-in to the *Dark* side... you're nearly there...
    give-in... resistance is futile!

    not a chance, I was appreciating the fact that the trail hasn't been
    thrashed by ignorant skidiots on 50 pig bikes... no way they'd ever
    ride up that thing. Plus, I left out the part about being second to
    last on the way down. ;-)

    penny


    I would...Even on my pig bike. I like to climb the stuff I ride down.
    Don't count all pig bikes out. Just the pigs that ride them.

    I'm aware that was kind of a rash comment... really it comes down to not
    knowing HOW to ride, and that most damage comes from improper brake use.
    Besides, the trail was kind of flat in between the corners anyway. ;-)
    Ok, so now I've offended the downhillers...it must be time for myseim-annual
    stupidity post...

    penny

  11. Michael Dart said:

    "Slacker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Slacker wrote:
    >
    >> penny, give-in to the *Dark* side... you're nearly there...
    >> give-in... resistance is futile!

    Quoted message said:

    > not a chance, I was appreciating the fact that the trail hasn't
    > been thrashed by ignorant skidiots on 50 pig bikes... no way
    > they'd ever ride up that thing. Plus, I left out the part about
    > being second to last on the way down. ;-)
    >
    > penny

    er um that should read 50 # big bikes.....


    "We" know exactly what you meant, JD.

    Besides, mine is only a shade over 40#. ;^)

    Mike

    ya know, if I've offended all you big bike riders, I do apologize.... it
    was just so fresh on my mind the difference in the trail, doing this ride
    after a few days at one of my locals, which is getting so rutted and gulley
    out... I do realize it's the riders and not the bikes... so feel free to
    trash lycra clad female XC-ers now...

    penny

  12. TJ said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    penny, give-in to the *Dark* side... you're nearly there...
    give-in... resistance is futile!

    not a chance, I was appreciating the fact that the trail hasn't been
    thrashed by ignorant skidiots on 50 pig bikes... no way they'd ever
    ride up that thing. Plus, I left out the part about being second to
    last on the way down. ;-)

    penny


    I would...Even on my pig bike. I like to climb the stuff I ride down.
    Don't count all pig bikes out. Just the pigs that ride them.

    TJ
    www.gvii.net/hundtoft
    www.fatboy.s5.com

    I have a buddy who rides a Kona Pig (7" of travel, 45#) and he rides up all
    the big climbs too. Very impressive. I never see him on the way down.

    Matt

  13. "pas" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    TJ said:
    Quoted message said:

    > penny, give-in to the *Dark* side... you're nearly there...
    > give-in... resistance is futile!

    not a chance, I was appreciating the fact that the trail hasn't been
    thrashed by ignorant skidiots on 50 pig bikes... no way they'd ever
    ride up that thing. Plus, I left out the part about being second to
    last on the way down. ;-)

    penny


    I would...Even on my pig bike. I like to climb the stuff I ride down.
    Don't count all pig bikes out. Just the pigs that ride them.

    I'm aware that was kind of a rash comment... really it comes down to not
    knowing HOW to ride, and that most damage comes from improper brake use.
    Besides, the trail was kind of flat in between the corners anyway. ;-)
    Ok, so now I've offended the downhillers...it must be time for


    myseim-annual

    Quoted message said:

    stupidity post...

    penny


    No offense taken. I like the expression of the people that I (sometimes but
    not often) pass on the uphill. Never witnessed by my regular riding
    partners though.

    TJ

  14. TJ said:

    "pas" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    TJ said:

    >> penny, give-in to the *Dark* side... you're nearly there...
    >> give-in... resistance is futile!
    >
    >
    > not a chance, I was appreciating the fact that the trail hasn't
    > been thrashed by ignorant skidiots on 50 pig bikes... no way
    > they'd ever ride up that thing. Plus, I left out the part about
    > being second to last on the way down. ;-)
    >
    > penny
    >
    I would...Even on my pig bike. I like to climb the stuff I ride
    down. Don't count all pig bikes out. Just the pigs that ride them.

    I'm aware that was kind of a rash comment... really it comes down to
    not knowing HOW to ride, and that most damage comes from improper
    brake use. Besides, the trail was kind of flat in between the
    corners anyway. ;-) Ok, so now I've offended the downhillers...it
    must be time for myseim-annual stupidity post...

    penny


    No offense taken. I like the expression of the people that I
    (sometimes but not often) pass on the uphill. Never witnessed by my
    regular riding partners though.

    TJ

    Isn't it painful.. just from the different geometry, more the la-z boy
    set-up? I rode up Mt Spokane one time and one member of our group was on a
    DH rig, and he said it just hurt the knees...?

    penny

  15. "pas" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    TJ said:

    "pas" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    TJ wrote:
    >>> penny, give-in to the *Dark* side... you're nearly there...
    >>> give-in... resistance is futile!
    >>
    >>
    >> not a chance, I was appreciating the fact that the trail hasn't
    >> been thrashed by ignorant skidiots on 50 pig bikes... no way
    >> they'd ever ride up that thing. Plus, I left out the part about
    >> being second to last on the way down. ;-)
    >>
    >> penny
    >>
    > I would...Even on my pig bike. I like to climb the stuff I ride
    > down. Don't count all pig bikes out. Just the pigs that ride them.
    >

    I'm aware that was kind of a rash comment... really it comes down to
    not knowing HOW to ride, and that most damage comes from improper
    brake use. Besides, the trail was kind of flat in between the
    corners anyway. ;-) Ok, so now I've offended the downhillers...it
    must be time for myseim-annual stupidity post...

    penny


    No offense taken. I like the expression of the people that I
    (sometimes but not often) pass on the uphill. Never witnessed by my
    regular riding partners though.

    TJ

    Isn't it painful.. just from the different geometry, more the la-z boy
    set-up? I rode up Mt Spokane one time and one member of our group was on a
    DH rig, and he said it just hurt the knees...?

    penny


    It isn't too bad. I have it set up for a 68 degree head angle. It does not
    climb well. Neither do I. I think it is more like climbing on a beach
    cruiser. Totaly upright position.

    TJ

  16. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Isn't it painful.. just from the different geometry, more the la-z boy
    set-up? I rode up Mt Spokane one time and one member of our group was on a
    DH rig, and he said it just hurt the knees...?

    penny

    It isn't too bad. I have it set up for a 68 degree head angle. It does not
    climb well. Neither do I. I think it is more like climbing on a beach
    cruiser. Totaly upright position.

    TJ


    That's a pretty good desc. I would just add one thing: Feels like a
    beach cruiser on a giant water bed.

    --
    Slacker

  17. Slacker said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Isn't it painful.. just from the different geometry, more the la-z
    boy set-up? I rode up Mt Spokane one time and one member of our
    group was on a DH rig, and he said it just hurt the knees...?

    penny

    It isn't too bad. I have it set up for a 68 degree head angle. It
    does not climb well. Neither do I. I think it is more like
    climbing on a beach cruiser. Totaly upright position.

    TJ


    That's a pretty good desc. I would just add one thing: Feels like a
    beach cruiser on a giant water bed.

    I've ridden my beach cruiser on local trails a couple of times (you get good
    looks when passing - maybe even better than on a DH rig). So I think I know
    what that might feel like. Except the water bed part.

    Matt

  18. "Slacker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Isn't it painful.. just from the different geometry, more the la-z boy
    set-up? I rode up Mt Spokane one time and one member of our group was on


    a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    DH rig, and he said it just hurt the knees...?

    penny

    It isn't too bad. I have it set up for a 68 degree head angle. It does


    not

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    climb well. Neither do I. I think it is more like climbing on a beach
    cruiser. Totaly upright position.

    TJ


    That's a pretty good desc. I would just add one thing: Feels like a
    beach cruiser on a giant water bed.

    --
    Slacker


    I like the waterbed description. Even with Pro-pedal/SPV.

    TJ

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