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  1. Remember limu?

    I have some good news and I have some bad news.

    Both are at http://www.royaltonganlimu.com/index.asp

    --
    Peter Bowditch [email hidden]
    The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
    The Green Light http://www.ratbags.com/greenlight
    I'm a Bright. Are you?

  2. Peter Bowditch said:

    Remember limu?

    I have some good news and I have some bad news.

    Both are at http://www.royaltonganlimu.com/index.asp

    Do I detect the footprints of the FTC?

    Tsu

    --
    To doubt everything or to believe everything
    are two equally convenient solutions; both
    dispense with the necessity of reflection.
    - Jules Henri Poincaré

  3. Tsu Dho Nimh <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:
    Peter Bowditch said:

    Remember limu?

    I have some good news and I have some bad news.

    Both are at http://www.royaltonganlimu.com/index.asp

    Do I detect the footprints of the FTC?

    Tsu

    What you are seeing is the results of the seasilver scammers getting busted.
    From what I have gathered, the company is shutting down and going through a
    rename and reorg.

    r

    --
    "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from
    magic."

    Arthur C. Clarke (1917 - ), "Technology and the Future"

  4. Quoted message said:
    Peter Bowditch said:

    Remember limu?

    I have some good news and I have some bad news.

    Both are at http://www.royaltonganlimu.com/index.asp

    Do I detect the footprints of the FTC?

    Tsu

    I can't wait for Jan Drew's favorite links to start disappearing. They'll
    _ALL_ start returning a 404 Error when clicked on. EOM has finally won!

  5. Peter Bowditch said:

    Remember limu?

    I have some good news and I have some bad news.

    Both are at http://www.royaltonganlimu.com/index.asp

    I wonder what they are going to do with all the wild Limu's?

    Interestingly, they list their address on their website as:

    255 Premier Boulevard, Suite 500
    Lake Mary, FL 32746

    However, this is the correct one..

    255 Primera Blvd
    Lake Mary, FL 32746

    This is a large office building where there are several insurance
    companies, but no evidence that there is even a mail drop.

    Most curious.

  6. Ilsa9 said:
    Quoted message said:
    Peter Bowditch said:

    Remember limu?

    I have some good news and I have some bad news.

    Both are at http://www.royaltonganlimu.com/index.asp

    Do I detect the footprints of the FTC?

    Tsu

    I can't wait for Jan Drew's favorite links to start disappearing. They'll
    _ALL_ start returning a 404 Error when clicked on. EOM has finally won!

    I am convinced that Jan does not read the links she posts. Look at the
    list she just posted supporting toxic cleanses. None of the sites
    mentioned tham.

  7. On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:41:56 GMT, Peter Bowditch <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Remember limu?

    I have some good news and I have some bad news.

    Both are at http://www.royaltonganlimu.com/index.asp

    What's the bad news ?

  8. Mark Probert <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Most curious.

    Less curious than why Will Ketcher Probert keeps changing his email
    addresses and refuses to respond why the NY Bar Association had to pay
    6 of his former disgruntled clients ... and why he is no longer
    licensed to practice law ... yet continues to bash those intent of
    helping others.

    www.humanticsfoundation.com/PropagandistProbert.html

    www.humanticsfoundation.com/DisinfoAgents.htm

  9. WB said:

    On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:41:56 GMT, Peter Bowditch <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Remember limu?

    I have some good news and I have some bad news.

    Both are at http://www.royaltonganlimu.com/index.asp

    What's the bad news ?

    The bad news is personal - every time I do a link check for The
    Millenium Project and find another scammer has 404ed, I have to do
    some work. Soon I won't have Royal Limu to kick around any more.

    --
    Peter Bowditch [email hidden]
    The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
    The Green Light http://www.ratbags.com/greenlight
    I'm a Bright. Are you?

  10. Rich Andrews said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Both are at http://www.royaltonganlimu.com/index.asp

    Quoted message said:

    What you are seeing is the results of the seasilver scammers getting busted.
    From what I have gathered, the company is shutting down and going through a
    rename and reorg.

    So they will emerge with the same cast of characters, under a new
    name, selling more [censored], having shafted all their distributors of
    the previous product.

    Serial scammers?

    Tsu

    --
    To doubt everything or to believe everything
    are two equally convenient solutions; both
    dispense with the necessity of reflection.
    - Jules Henri Poincaré

  11. [email hidden] (David Wright)

    Quoted message said:

    No more curious than your continued failure to explain why you
    trivialized the Holocaust.

    You poor Shill ... having to make up some ugly lies in your vain
    attempt to harm me ...

    For anything I have written on the internet regarding the Nazi
    holocaust and the silicone holocaust ...

    http:[email hidden]+holocaust&btnG=Google+Search

    For info on this desperate Quack Flack ...

    http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/DisinfoAgentsFAQ.htm#WrongerThanWright

    For info on breast implants ...

    www.BreastImplantAwareness.org

  12. Tsu Dho Nimh said:

    Do I detect the footprints of the FTC?

    I think it is more likely that DEI folded up shop
    because their parent company (Nature's Bounty,
    a.k.a. NBTY) realized the enormous liability
    risk they were taking. At some point, their
    lawyers must have seen the file I posted about
    how fucoidan enhances tumor metastasis.
    NBTY is a billion-dollar company, and to risk
    all of that over RTL would be very foolish.

    Remember that RTL was being promoted to
    cancer patients. When cancer follows its
    normal course, it advances through metastasis,
    ultimately killing the patient. All it would take
    would be a few lawsuits in which a cancer
    patient says "I took the limu, and then my
    cancer metastasized" to pose an unacceptable
    risk of liability, especially if plaintiff had a
    sharp lawyer and an easily swayed jury.

    And if that weren't enough, it's not clear
    that limu was a legal product. Although the
    laws on natural products sold as dietary
    supplements are remarkably loose, they are
    not non-existent. When you introduce a new
    product ("new" meaning not marketed in the
    U.S. before 1994), you must submit a pre-market
    notification to the FDA at least 75 days before
    marketing the product. This was never done
    for RTL. If the 75-day pre-market notification
    requirement was applicable to this product, it would
    look very bad in the eyes of the jury if someone
    was claiming injury from a product that was itself
    illegal.

    When you combine that with NBTY's unsavory
    past and present (they are facing a $146 million
    fine from the federal government for violations
    of the Controlled Substances Act), a jury
    would not be likely to feel favorably about
    NBTY.

    For details about the $146 million, see:
    http://www.naturalproductsinsider.com/hotnews/34h18141613.html

  13. Is there no '[censored] list' for these people ?
    Anth

    "Mark Thorson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Tsu Dho Nimh said:

    Do I detect the footprints of the FTC?

    I think it is more likely that DEI folded up shop
    because their parent company (Nature's Bounty,
    a.k.a. NBTY) realized the enormous liability
    risk they were taking. At some point, their
    lawyers must have seen the file I posted about
    how fucoidan enhances tumor metastasis.
    NBTY is a billion-dollar company, and to risk
    all of that over RTL would be very foolish.

    Remember that RTL was being promoted to
    cancer patients. When cancer follows its
    normal course, it advances through metastasis,
    ultimately killing the patient. All it would take
    would be a few lawsuits in which a cancer
    patient says "I took the limu, and then my
    cancer metastasized" to pose an unacceptable
    risk of liability, especially if plaintiff had a
    sharp lawyer and an easily swayed jury.

    And if that weren't enough, it's not clear
    that limu was a legal product. Although the
    laws on natural products sold as dietary
    supplements are remarkably loose, they are
    not non-existent. When you introduce a new
    product ("new" meaning not marketed in the
    U.S. before 1994), you must submit a pre-market
    notification to the FDA at least 75 days before
    marketing the product. This was never done
    for RTL. If the 75-day pre-market notification
    requirement was applicable to this product, it would
    look very bad in the eyes of the jury if someone
    was claiming injury from a product that was itself
    illegal.

    When you combine that with NBTY's unsavory
    past and present (they are facing a $146 million
    fine from the federal government for violations
    of the Controlled Substances Act), a jury
    would not be likely to feel favorably about
    NBTY.

    For details about the $146 million, see:
    http://www.naturalproductsinsider.com/hotnews/34h18141613.html

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