Routine critique

Dally said:

The Queen of Cans and Jars said:

Seth Breidbart said:

You're better off stretching ONLY after the workout. Stretching
reduces your strength temporarily.

Really? I always heard you should only stretch afterwards because
stretching cold muscles is more likely to damage them.

That doesn't contradict what he's saying.

I didn't say that it did. I said that I had heard the same advice but
with a different rationale given.

Do try to follow along.

On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 02:06:55 GMT, [email hidden] (The Queen of

Cans and Jars) said:

Really? I always heard you should only stretch afterwards because
stretching cold muscles is more likely to damage them.

You are correct.

On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 00:34:42 +0000 (UTC), [email hidden] (Seth

Breidbart) said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Ryan Case said:

Dally wrote:

Quoted message said:

I wouldn't chase shoulder hypertrophy away with a big stick.

If you could then you wouldn't need to.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

About the stretching: I'm reading that it's better to stretch after
you're warmed up. Ten minutes on the elliptical THEN some stretching,
or a warm-up set of bench or squats, THEN stretch. I'm old, so I have
to stretch AFTER the workout, too.

You're better off stretching ONLY after the workout. Stretching
reduces your strength temporarily.

It is really quite usual to stretch after warming up, always provided
that the stretching is not taken to extremes.

I can't think of many sports where the participants don't stretch as
part of their warm-up routine before competing, and of course
stretching again as part of their warm-down.

The physiological advantages (if any) are somewhat vague but the
psychological benefits are very real.

http://www.physsportsmed.com/issues/2005/0305/shrier.htm

On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 03:35:40 +0000 (UTC), [email hidden] (Seth

Breidbart) said:

The reason is correct. The question is whether to stretch after a
warmup but before heavy lifting, or after the heavy lifting. The
latter is correct.

Gee, doesn't this illiterare F**k impress you guys with his command of
the english language?

Seth Breidbart said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

The Queen of Cans and Jars said:

Seth Breidbart said:

You're better off stretching ONLY after the workout. Stretching
reduces your strength temporarily.

Really? I always heard you should only stretch afterwards because
stretching cold muscles is more likely to damage them.

The reason is correct. The question is whether to stretch after a
warmup but before heavy lifting, or after the heavy lifting. The
latter is correct.

Ah, gotcha. Thank you.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Charles said:

On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 00:34:42 +0000 (UTC), [email hidden] (Seth

Breidbart) said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Ryan Case said:

Dally wrote:

Quoted message said:

I wouldn't chase shoulder hypertrophy away with a big stick.

If you could then you wouldn't need to.

Quoted message said:

> About the stretching: I'm reading that it's better to stretch after
> you're warmed up. Ten minutes on the elliptical THEN some stretching,
> or a warm-up set of bench or squats, THEN stretch. I'm old, so I have
> to stretch AFTER the workout, too.

You're better off stretching ONLY after the workout. Stretching
reduces your strength temporarily.

It is really quite usual to stretch after warming up, always provided
that the stretching is not taken to extremes.

I can't think of many sports where the participants don't stretch as
part of their warm-up routine before competing, and of course
stretching again as part of their warm-down.

The physiological advantages (if any) are somewhat vague but the
psychological benefits are very real.

http://www.physsportsmed.com/issues/2005/0305/shrier.htm

Depends on your definition of stretch. Traditional 'static' stretching
prior to activitiy is a bad idea. You lose up to 10% of your strength
and there is no reduction in injuries. Pretty well documented.

Warming up and doing dynamic ROM stretches in key movements is a good
idea.

This has changed quite a bit since our day. If you watch track and field
people you'll never see a good sprinter doing a hurdler's stretch for
the hamstring prior to a race. You will see them doing a bouncing toes
touch.

It has really changed in the last ten to fifteen years.

--
Keith