Ronde Champ was a Pro?

Must be, because I see several names of local Lancaster/Philly riders on
that list that I'm about 100% sure weren't pros (e.g., dave black, wayne
work).

I suspect that the list includes guys who, for whatever reason, were Cat Is
who were able to race CoreStates in Philly that year....

"mike schatzman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Anyone into minor cycling team nostalgia like I am?
http://www.memoire-du-cyclisme.net/pelotons/usa94.php
Rob Palachick was a pro riding for Giant in 94, I didn't know that.
Look at all those guys, I know some of those dudes,
you could pretty much buy a pro license if you were a 1 right?

http://www.memoire-du-cyclisme.net/pelotons/usa93.php
http://www.memoire-du-cyclisme.net/pelotons/usa97.php
just change the year at the end of the thread, ever wonder who
rode for Richbrau or Oil-Me Klein (the call it SOILME KLEIN, funny
stuff, they were "suspended by UCI"😉
There was an Indian Palace pro team?

Is Oliver Starr related to Walker Starr? Oliver Starr is now a
bodybuilding steroid guru, and published "underground anabolic
endurance
newsletter" that taught cyclists how to dope properly...

Lieswyn was on like 10 different teams, what ever happened to Elliot
Hubbard?
Ok I'll stop

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Must be, because I see several names of local Lancaster/Philly riders on
that list that I'm about 100% sure weren't pros (e.g., dave black, wayne
work).

I suspect that the list includes guys who, for whatever reason, were Cat Is
who were able to race CoreStates in Philly that year....

Independant pros back then, if you were tired of getting hammered by
amateurs, you could cough up some cash and get really hammered by
pros.

Tony Comfort was a pro too, in 94, according to this site, bonus
nostalgic nerd points for anyone who can tell me who he was...
I know Boulder Co. people remember.

I think at one point, all you needed was $600, and you could get
yourself a PRO license. Forget the Cat 1 thing (that probably came
later).

Wow, lots of interesting names on that list. I even saw Micke Farr's
name. What the heck ever happened to him. Last I remember, a bunch
of you hotheads were after him for some jerseys he couldn't affor to
print-up for you.

[email hidden] (mike schatzman) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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Anyone into minor cycling team nostalgia like I am?
http://www.memoire-du-cyclisme.net/pelotons/usa94.php
Rob Palachick was a pro riding for Giant in 94, I didn't know that.
Look at all those guys, I know some of those dudes,
you could pretty much buy a pro license if you were a 1 right?

http://www.memoire-du-cyclisme.net/pelotons/usa93.php
http://www.memoire-du-cyclisme.net/pelotons/usa97.php
just change the year at the end of the thread, ever wonder who
rode for Richbrau or Oil-Me Klein (the call it SOILME KLEIN, funny
stuff, they were "suspended by UCI"😉
There was an Indian Palace pro team?

Is Oliver Starr related to Walker Starr? Oliver Starr is now a
bodybuilding steroid guru, and published "underground anabolic
endurance
newsletter" that taught cyclists how to dope properly...

Lieswyn was on like 10 different teams, what ever happened to Elliot
Hubbard?
Ok I'll stop

"mike schatzman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >

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Tony Comfort was a pro too, in 94, according to this site, bonus
nostalgic nerd points for anyone who can tell me who he was...
I know Boulder Co. people remember.

He was (briefly) a topic of discussion here. Stalking (googling) should
easily bring up the info.

"mike schatzman" <[email hidden]> wrote:
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Tony Comfort was a pro too, in 94, according to this site, bonus
nostalgic nerd points for anyone who can tell me who he was...

per Carl's goog-stalk-ler suggestion,

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=3f2f027a%241_4%40news.chariot.net.au

Nobody ever answered my question it seems.

Mark
(has enough bonus-nostalgic-nerd points to upgrade to category 1)
(also apparently some lame points for once (?) using cyclingforums)

Mark Fennell () said:

"mike schatzman" <[email hidden]> wrote:
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Quoted message said:

Tony Comfort was a pro too, in 94, according to this site, bonus
nostalgic nerd points for anyone who can tell me who he was...

per Carl's goog-stalk-ler suggestion,

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=3f2f027a%241_4%40news.chariot.net.au

i see you've followed his lead, fennelli

heatherbella

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Mark Fennell () said:

"mike schatzman" <[email hidden]> wrote:
<snip>

Quoted message said:

Tony Comfort was a pro too, in 94, according to this site, bonus
nostalgic nerd points for anyone who can tell me who he was...

per Carl's goog-stalk-ler suggestion,

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=3f2f027a%241_4%40news.chariot.net.au

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i see you've followed his lead, fennelli

heatherbella

That's how dense I am... that coincidence (irony?) didn't even occur to me!

Actually, the name is because my father-in-law is a big, bad, muscle-bound
italian teamster and I thought he'd be less likely to go Tony Soprano on me
if I told him my name was Marco Fennelli.

I noticed Ashley Powell listed under Village Peddler, which is wrong,
unless he was leading a double life, because he actually rode for the
Cycle Center in '97. One of the best riders I've raced with, not too
mention pretty nice off the bike.

Chris Harnish
Cycle Center Alumnist

[email hidden] (mike schatzman) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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Anyone into minor cycling team nostalgia like I am?
http://www.memoire-du-cyclisme.net/pelotons/usa94.php
Rob Palachick was a pro riding for Giant in 94, I didn't know that.
Look at all those guys, I know some of those dudes,
you could pretty much buy a pro license if you were a 1 right?

http://www.memoire-du-cyclisme.net/pelotons/usa93.php
http://www.memoire-du-cyclisme.net/pelotons/usa97.php
just change the year at the end of the thread, ever wonder who
rode for Richbrau or Oil-Me Klein (the call it SOILME KLEIN, funny
stuff, they were "suspended by UCI"😉
There was an Indian Palace pro team?

Is Oliver Starr related to Walker Starr? Oliver Starr is now a
bodybuilding steroid guru, and published "underground anabolic
endurance
newsletter" that taught cyclists how to dope properly...

Lieswyn was on like 10 different teams, what ever happened to Elliot
Hubbard?
Ok I'll stop

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"mike schatzman" <[email hidden]> wrote:
<snip>

Quoted message said:

Tony Comfort was a pro too, in 94, according to this site, bonus
nostalgic nerd points for anyone who can tell me who he was...

per Carl's goog-stalk-ler suggestion,

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=3f2f027a%241_4%40news.chariot.net.au

Nobody ever answered my question it seems.

is it bad form to answer your own question?
I'm not sure I may be getting my cycling trivia mixed up, so please
correct me if any of this is mixed up, but:
1) Tony Comfort (or Antonio Comforte) was a guy that the
lead character of Breaking Away (Dave Stoller) was based on, he
was a Boulder nutcase absolutely obsessed with all things cycling,
Italian cycling in particular.
2) Davis Phinney talks about a junior he raced with named Tony in his
training book, as an example of what NOT to do as a junior, like
500 mile weeks, because Tony Comfort apparently burnt out pretty bad.
3) Finally, my own little addition, I found an old defunct National
Goegraphic style magazine called GEO, from I think 1980 maybe, that
was about cycling, the Coor Classic in particular, and had a whole
article about Tony Comfort, about how he lived in a shed behind a bike
shop,
and pics of him riding a trainer in his little hovel filled with
nothing but road bikes, Italian cycling posters and a cot. It said he
was the inspiration for Dave Stoller, and that he won the CO. district
road race, but that older riders said he was gonna burn out - he was
an independant pro eventually, years later.

So my next question is this: Where is Tony Comfort today? Anyone know?
I care, seriously.

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From: [email hidden] (mike schatzman)

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It said he
was the inspiration for Dave Stoller, and that he won the CO. district
road race, but that older riders said he was gonna burn out - he was
an independant pro eventually, years later.

So my next question is this: Where is Tony Comfort today? Anyone know?
I care, seriously.

Mike you skirted the most important point. Coaches and Teams who will burn out
and throw away 99 Jrs. to get 1 who goes Pro.
There was a batch of behind the scenes [censored] with a serious Jr team
recruiter/leader at GMSR that has really [censored] me off. This is someone I used
to have a lot of respect for, but they made their priorities clear this
weekend.
Bill C

ashley was a good ass bike rider... a great example of a guy that came along at
the wrong time... he was the man for sure...

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I noticed Ashley Powell listed under Village Peddler, which is wrong,
unless he was leading a double life, because he actually rode for the
Cycle Center in '97. One of the best riders I've raced with, not too
mention pretty nice off the bike.

Chris Harnish
Cycle Center Alumnist

I saw that velonews "off the back" he wrote about his racing back
then,
that was cool.
what amazes me (I haven't been involved in cycling that long) is how
LONG
some of those dudes have been racing, 15 + years full-time racing on
smallish teams, they must love racing. Also it's cool to see the
development of small teams into larger ones, like 7-up that first year
with corbett racing, cochran, wayne roth, it was a small team, but
they stepped it up each year. Navigators had some strange rosters back
in the day too, lots of english guys in the early to mid 90's too.
Dave Mann, that Saab team. It's like having a complete Winning
Magazine collection or something.
Teams come and go so fast, it's cool to have it all it all down, they
have it for other countries too - rosters for each country 89-98.
Le Groupement was my favorite, Luc Leblanc, Robert Millar, and Graham
Obree.

"mike schatzman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

I'm not sure I may be getting my cycling trivia mixed up, so please
correct me if any of this is mixed up, but:
1) Tony Comfort (or Antonio Comforte) was a guy that the
lead character of Breaking Away (Dave Stoller) was based on, he
was a Boulder nutcase absolutely obsessed with all things cycling,
Italian cycling in particular.

Dave Stoller was based on Dave Blase. I don't know Blase's early personal
history, but he's probably in his 60's now. He taught at Arlington High
School in Indianapolis and used to race at least as recently as the 80's on
the velodrome there. He's probably about the same age as Chuck Moll, Tom
Lobdell, or Dave Mercer, other great masters riders from Indianapolis.

In article <[email hidden]>,

(mike schatzman) said:

Teams come and go so fast, it's cool to have it all it all down, they
have it for other countries too - rosters for each country 89-98.
Le Groupement was my favorite, Luc Leblanc, Robert Millar, and Graham
Obree.

I had a feeling back then that Le Groupement was going to tank - boy,
did they! If I remember, they were done by July. I tried to find a LG hat
back then, but never did. Jerseys were around, but that's not the same.
Remember the team intro, with Leblanc dancing around in a giant sombrero?
Pretty funny at the time, but a few months later, it sure wasn't.

--
tanx,
Howard

"Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind."
Albert Einstein

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

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"mike schatzman" <[email hidden]> wrote:
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Tony Comfort was a pro too, in 94, according to this site, bonus
nostalgic nerd points for anyone who can tell me who he was...

per Carl's goog-stalk-ler suggestion,

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=3f2f027a%241_4%40news.chariot.net.au

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Nobody ever answered my question it seems.

is it bad form to answer your own question?

Perhaps, but dammit, I'm going to answer mine from the link above. Tony
Comfort was on a jr team with Alexi Grewal, Ron Kiefel, and Steve Wood.
There, closure.

Yeah, he was definately there at the wrong time...A year, maybe two,
later and we would probably still be reading his name in the results.
Hi win at Thater was impressive, because he looked like some local
dude winning a pro race.

CH
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ashley was a good ass bike rider... a great example of a guy that came along at
the wrong time... he was the man for sure...

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ashley was a good ass bike rider... a great example of a guy that came along at
the wrong time... he was the man for sure...

Ashley is a very cool guy. He can still rip the legs off of people,
even though he doesn't ride much anymore. He's a freak of nature on
the bike. He was also one of the better mountain bike racers in the
Southeast back in the day. He's still coaching a lot of people around
Greensboro, NC and the Southeast in general.

Tom

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Mike you skirted the most important point. Coaches and Teams who will burn out
and throw away 99 Jrs. to get 1 who goes Pro.
There was a batch of behind the scenes [censored] with a serious Jr team
recruiter/leader at GMSR that has really [censored] me off. This is someone I used
to have a lot of respect for, but they made their priorities clear this
weekend.
Bill C

Hey Bill, e-mail me off-online on this; I'm very curious........

Thanks,
Alan

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ashley was a good ass bike rider... a great example of a guy that came along at
the wrong time... he was the man for sure...

Got smarts too. Went to a race with him once and we joked about how
cyclists aren't rocket scientists. He then mentioned that he had
studied physics in college and did an internship with NASA- and he was
serious.

Chris