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  1. Hello forum!

    Here is a short video (only about 20 seconds) of me doing some rolling
    hops and a side hop, all on my kh 24" muni. I'm hoping to get tips and
    helpful advice on how to improve my technique and get more distance in
    my rolling hops. I just feel like I'm expending waaay too much energy
    for the distance I'm getting and really want to "work smart, not hard"
    as the saying goes.

    I know a lot of it is just practice and determination, and going for
    it, but I wanted to get feedback from those with more experience (which
    is *most* of you!🙂) because I also know that bad or flawed technique
    can hold me back from improving beyond a certain point.

    Please have a look at the video and hopefully you will be able to
    evaluate my technique and maybe offer some contructive feedback.

    I'm also wondering if a CF seat base and maybe a reeder or DG handle
    would make much difference. Thanks!😄

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  2. Roll hops: Throw that wheel way farther out infront of you.

    Side hops: The second you leave the ground tuck like a b*tch. Also
    preload a ton. lean into it. And also do it sif.

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  3. You could also have a faster take off on those rolling hops.

    As for side hops, try compressing your tire as much as you can and just
    exploding off the ledge. I see in your video that you are kind of
    throwing your weight to the side. Try to do it like this: lean as much
    as possible, throw your weight DOWN at the last second before you fall
    over from leaning, release weight and spring to the side.

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  4. It looks like you're not puting enough oomph into the jumping part, you
    just kind of floated over the ditch! Tuck more right before you jump
    and spring upwards with as much force as you can. Think of it more as
    a "rolling jump" rather than a "rolling hop".

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  5. crank positioning is crucial. when u hop on flat ground, u should be
    pushing down hard on one leg. Get your cranks lined up nicely to the
    object, and then just and more strength into that push.

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  6. For side hops its all in the bang. You have to give 'er as hard as you
    can. Just explode! As Evan said, get that wheel as far into your a$$ as
    possible.

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  7. Danni said:

    crank positioning is crucial. when u hop on flat ground, u should be
    pushing down hard on one leg. Get your cranks lined up nicely to the
    object, and then just and more strength into that push.

    I disagree
    you push down hard on BOTH legs

    if I am having trouble doing easy stuff then I pretend to jump OFF of
    the unicycle, but pull up on the handle enough to keep the uni on my
    feet if that makes any sense.

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  8. Spudman said:

    It looks like you're not puting enough oomph into the jumping part, you
    just kind of floated over the ditch! Tuck more right before you jump
    and spring upwards with as much force as you can. Think of it more as
    a "rolling jump" rather than a "rolling hop".

    agreed, but turning does take away from distance(not height at all),
    and I find that if you go at a slight angle and hop sideways as well as
    foreward(ending up going straight) you can jump farther

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  9. for rolling:

    ride faster.

    You want to be able to fluidly roll into the extension, throw your free
    hand upward as you arch your back. you should be halfway into the jump
    before you get to the hopping pedal position. Just practice, and the
    timing will come to you.

    Rememder your uni only weighs 12lbs, it's all about getting your body
    weight up. Dont worry about jumping foreward, momentum will do all the
    foreward progress for you.

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  10. I'm thinking I should also *lower* the saddle considerably so I can
    "crouch" down more just before I launch. In that vid I had it really
    high for climbing, because I can climb better with a more full leg
    extentions.

    I really want to learn sif hopping next, like Evan suggested. You guys
    are giving great advice...I really appreciate it and it's helping me
    quite a lot!😄

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  11. onetrack said:

    for rolling:

    ride faster.

    You want to be able to fluidly roll into the extension, throw your free
    hand upward as you arch your back. you should be halfway into the jump
    before you get to the hopping pedal position. Just practice, and the
    timing will come to you.

    Rememder your uni only weighs 12lbs, it's all about getting your body
    weight up. Dont worry about jumping foreward, momentum will do all the
    foreward progress for you.

    Actually, my 24" kh weighs about 15+ lbs. I think the KH 20 weighs only
    12 lbs.

    How do I get "half way into the jump" *before* my cranks are in
    "jumping position?" For me, my left crank is forward and of course 3/9
    o'clock crank position right at the launch point.

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  12. i don't know exactly how good my form is, but here is a decent
    illustration of a decent rolling hop

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  13. skrobo said:

    i don't know exactly how good my form is, but here is a decent
    illustration of a decent rolling hop

    link please...😄

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  14. skrobo said:

    i don't know exactly how good my form is, but here is a decent
    illustration of a decent rolling hop

    That's a loooong rolling hop! I'm guessing it's a bit easier to get that
    distance on a trials vs a muni?

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  15. MuniAddict said:

    Actually, my 24" kh weighs about 15+ lbs. I think the KH 20 weighs only
    12 lbs.

    How do I get "half way into the jump" *before* my cranks are in
    "jumping position?" For me, my left crank is forward and of course 3/9
    o'clock crank position right at the launch point.

    I static hop with the same crank position.

    However, when I rolling hop, I get to full speed, and then as soon as
    my right crank hits 6 oclock(yes, 6, not a typo) I compress the tire
    and launch. While i'm gaining height I kind of automatically pedal my
    cranks to 3/9.

    I find that If I try to rolling hop by going fast then compressing the
    tire at 3/9 I just end up losing a lot of speed and my rolling hop just
    turns into [censored].

    When I compress the tire at 6, it seems much more flowy and I don't
    lose any speed. Btw, I only compress with 1 foot with rolling hops,
    don't try to force down on the 12 oclock pedal

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  16. Monocyclist said:

    I static hop with the same crank position.

    However, when I rolling hop, I get to full speed, and then as soon as
    my right crank hits 6 oclock(yes, 6, not a typo) I compress the tire
    and launch. While i'm gaining height I kind of automatically pedal my
    cranks to 3/9.

    I find that If I try to rolling hop by going fast then compressing the
    tire at 3/9 I just end up losing a lot of speed and my rolling hop just
    turns into [censored].

    When I compress the tire at 6, it seems much more flowy and I don't
    lose any speed. Btw, I only compress with 1 foot with rolling hops,
    don't try to force down on the 12 oclock pedal

    That sound interesting! I'm going to try that asap. Thanks.🙂

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  17. MuniAddict said:

    That sound interesting! I'm going to try that asap. Thanks.🙂

    That was what I was trying to say earlier.

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  18. skrobo said:

    i don't know exactly how good my form is, but here is a decent
    illustration of a decent rolling hop

    wooops
    heres the pic!!
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  19. Monocyclist said:

    I static hop with the same crank position.

    However, when I rolling hop, I get to full speed, and then as soon as
    my right crank hits 6 oclock(yes, 6, not a typo) I compress the tire
    and launch. While i'm gaining height I kind of automatically pedal my
    cranks to 3/9.

    I find that If I try to rolling hop by going fast then compressing the
    tire at 3/9 I just end up losing a lot of speed and my rolling hop just
    turns into [censored].

    When I compress the tire at 6, it seems much more flowy and I don't
    lose any speed. Btw, I only compress with 1 foot with rolling hops,
    don't try to force down on the 12 oclock pedal

    hmm
    I start to "explode" when i hit about 10 o' clock and leave the ground
    w/ the pedal at about 8 o' clock

    i can't jump more than 4 feet the way Monocyclist described.

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  20. skrobo said:


    i can't jump more than 4 feet the way Monocyclist described.

    I can.

    I don't find any other way comfortable. When I try to compress around
    9/3 it just slows me down and makes my distance nothing. Like if I was
    going 10 mph right before the hop i'd slow down to like 5-6 mph. At 6
    oclock i'll be going 10mph and I leave the ground going 10 mph.

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