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Cubit · 2005-09-01T15:35:00+00:00

Robochallenge: http://www.delorie.com/health/adslc/ 311/152.8/145 month-start: 153.2 monthly-goal: 4 since: 01/12/2003 I'm dropping my goal from 150 to 145. The lower belly bulge and upper arm fat have reduced by about 40% in just the last month. However, the lower belly looks like it must be at least 5 pounds of fat. Unfortunately, the body will probably still prioritize taking fat from other areas. I don't want to lose fat from the rest of my body, but it seems to be the price I'll have to pay to get the damn lower belly bulge off. My waist size is still to large too. It is about 39 and should be 36. Fat, as an organ, has a full vasculature and other supporting structures. I have wondered if part of my problem is that what looks and feels like a bulge of fat, may be largely a nest of blood vessels. Also, they say, that once fat cells are created for obesity, that they do not go away. They only reduce in size. Having once had a huge belly with about a 64 waist, it is conceivable that I will be left with the extra fat cells taking up a few inches because they have reached minimum cell size. I'm going to try to take it off anyway. Cubit

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Cubit
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1 September 2005, 15:35 UTC #1

Robochallenge: http://www.delorie.com/health/adslc/
311/152.8/145 month-start: 153.2 monthly-goal: 4 since: 01/12/2003
I'm dropping my goal from 150 to 145. The lower belly bulge and upper arm
fat have reduced by about 40% in just the last month. However, the lower
belly looks like it must be at least 5 pounds of fat. Unfortunately, the
body will probably still prioritize taking fat from other areas. I don't
want to lose fat from the rest of my body, but it seems to be the price I'll
have to pay to get the damn lower belly bulge off. My waist size is still
to large too. It is about 39 and should be 36.
Fat, as an organ, has a full vasculature and other supporting structures. I
have wondered if part of my problem is that what looks and feels like a
bulge of fat, may be largely a nest of blood vessels. Also, they say, that
once fat cells are created for obesity, that they do not go away. They only
reduce in size. Having once had a huge belly with about a 64 waist, it is
conceivable that I will be left with the extra fat cells taking up a few
inches because they have reached minimum cell size.
I'm going to try to take it off anyway.
Cubit

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Cubit
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2 September 2005, 13:46 UTC #2

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Max Hollywood Harris
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2 September 2005, 14:53 UTC #3

264/243/218 month-start: 243 monthly-goal: 8 since 7/20/2005
Thanks for running this Cubit.
I dunno if you are a Stone Temple Pilots fan, but to paraphrase Weiland
in "Creep"
"you're half the man you used to be."
And that's gotta count for a lot when you're looking at three pant
sizes and 5 lbs of middle.
Good luck. If it can be done, I suspect you will do it.
-Hollywood

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Cubit
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2 September 2005, 22:29 UTC #4

Well, actually, it is Delorie that does the Robochallenge. I was just
reminding people about it, and posting my data.
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264/243/218 month-start: 243 monthly-goal: 8 since 7/20/2005
Thanks for running this Cubit.
I dunno if you are a Stone Temple Pilots fan, but to paraphrase Weiland
in "Creep"
"you're half the man you used to be."
And that's gotta count for a lot when you're looking at three pant
sizes and 5 lbs of middle.
Good luck. If it can be done, I suspect you will do it.
-Hollywood

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Cubit
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5 September 2005, 12:08 UTC #5

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Sherman
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5 September 2005, 19:06 UTC #6

I'm impressed.
I'm thinking though that you may have to go to 140 temporarily and
then ease back up to your goal while sculpting your body to fit your
ideal.
Cubit said:
Robochallenge: http://www.delorie.com/health/adslc/
311/152.8/145 month-start: 153.2 monthly-goal: 4 since: 01/12/2003
I'm dropping my goal from 150 to 145. The lower belly bulge and upper arm
fat have reduced by about 40% in just the last month. However, the lower
belly looks like it must be at least 5 pounds of fat. Unfortunately, the
body will probably still prioritize taking fat from other areas. I don't
want to lose fat from the rest of my body, but it seems to be the price I'll
have to pay to get the damn lower belly bulge off. My waist size is still
to large too. It is about 39 and should be 36.
Fat, as an organ, has a full vasculature and other supporting structures. I
have wondered if part of my problem is that what looks and feels like a
bulge of fat, may be largely a nest of blood vessels. Also, they say, that
once fat cells are created for obesity, that they do not go away. They only
reduce in size. Having once had a huge belly with about a 64 waist, it is
conceivable that I will be left with the extra fat cells taking up a few
inches because they have reached minimum cell size.
I'm going to try to take it off anyway.
Cubit

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JC Der Koenig
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5 September 2005, 20:02 UTC #7

He doesn't exercise, so there's little chance that he's going to come out of
this looking good.
--
Eat less, exercise more. -- MFW
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I'm impressed.
I'm thinking though that you may have to go to 140 temporarily and
then ease back up to your goal while sculpting your body to fit your
ideal.
Cubit said:
Robochallenge: http://www.delorie.com/health/adslc/
311/152.8/145 month-start: 153.2 monthly-goal: 4 since: 01/12/2003
I'm dropping my goal from 150 to 145. The lower belly bulge and upper arm
fat have reduced by about 40% in just the last month. However, the lower
belly looks like it must be at least 5 pounds of fat. Unfortunately, the
body will probably still prioritize taking fat from other areas. I don't
want to lose fat from the rest of my body, but it seems to be the price
I'll
have to pay to get the damn lower belly bulge off. My waist size is
still
to large too. It is about 39 and should be 36.
Fat, as an organ, has a full vasculature and other supporting structures.
I
have wondered if part of my problem is that what looks and feels like a
bulge of fat, may be largely a nest of blood vessels. Also, they say,
that
once fat cells are created for obesity, that they do not go away. They
only
reduce in size. Having once had a huge belly with about a 64 waist, it is
conceivable that I will be left with the extra fat cells taking up a few
inches because they have reached minimum cell size.
I'm going to try to take it off anyway.
Cubit

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bmcky
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5 September 2005, 20:09 UTC #8

Cubit said:
Robochallenge: http://www.delorie.com/health/adslc/
311/152.8/145 month-start: 153.2 monthly-goal: 4 since: 01/12/2003
I'm dropping my goal from 150 to 145. The lower belly bulge and upper arm
fat have reduced by about 40% in just the last month. However, the lower
belly looks like it must be at least 5 pounds of fat. Unfortunately, the
body will probably still prioritize taking fat from other areas. I don't
want to lose fat from the rest of my body, but it seems to be the price I'll
have to pay to get the damn lower belly bulge off. My waist size is still
to large too. It is about 39 and should be 36.
Fat, as an organ, has a full vasculature and other supporting structures. I
have wondered if part of my problem is that what looks and feels like a
bulge of fat, may be largely a nest of blood vessels. Also, they say, that
once fat cells are created for obesity, that they do not go away. They only
reduce in size. Having once had a huge belly with about a 64 waist, it is
conceivable that I will be left with the extra fat cells taking up a few
inches because they have reached minimum cell size.
I'm going to try to take it off anyway.
Cubit
Cubit -
I vaguely recall seeing/hearing something similar about fat cells
after a diet, and that was a lot of the reasoning behind lyposuction.
More as a means to dispose of the brown fat cells than for weight
reduction. I also remember going on a diet (quite awhile ago, too)
where at the end, I had similar bulges remainging that only went away
as I approached to within 4 lbs of my weight goal. In other words, my
goal at the time was 142, and the remaing bulges didn't begin receding
until I'd gotten under 146. Hopefully, I'll reexperience the same
phenomina this coming spring. Keep us/me posted.
bmcky
Boston, MA

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Cubit
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7 September 2005, 14:46 UTC #9

Yours is the first report I have seen that suggest that dropping low enough
does, indeed, remove a lower belly bulge.
146 to 142 needs a context. Are you male? How tall are you?
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Cubit said:
Robochallenge: http://www.delorie.com/health/adslc/
311/152.8/145 month-start: 153.2 monthly-goal: 4 since: 01/12/2003
I'm dropping my goal from 150 to 145. The lower belly bulge and upper

arm
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
fat have reduced by about 40% in just the last month. However, the lower
belly looks like it must be at least 5 pounds of fat. Unfortunately,

the
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
body will probably still prioritize taking fat from other areas. I don't
want to lose fat from the rest of my body, but it seems to be the price

I'll
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
have to pay to get the damn lower belly bulge off. My waist size is

still
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
to large too. It is about 39 and should be 36.
Fat, as an organ, has a full vasculature and other supporting structures.

I
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
have wondered if part of my problem is that what looks and feels like a
bulge of fat, may be largely a nest of blood vessels. Also, they say,

that
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
once fat cells are created for obesity, that they do not go away. They

only
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
reduce in size. Having once had a huge belly with about a 64 waist, it

is
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
conceivable that I will be left with the extra fat cells taking up a few
inches because they have reached minimum cell size.
I'm going to try to take it off anyway.
Cubit
Cubit -
I vaguely recall seeing/hearing something similar about fat cells
after a diet, and that was a lot of the reasoning behind lyposuction.
More as a means to dispose of the brown fat cells than for weight
reduction. I also remember going on a diet (quite awhile ago, too)
where at the end, I had similar bulges remainging that only went away
as I approached to within 4 lbs of my weight goal. In other words, my
goal at the time was 142, and the remaing bulges didn't begin receding
until I'd gotten under 146. Hopefully, I'll reexperience the same
phenomina this coming spring. Keep us/me posted.
bmcky
Boston, MA

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bmcky
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7 September 2005, 16:26 UTC #10

Cubit said:
Yours is the first report I have seen that suggest that dropping low enough
does, indeed, remove a lower belly bulge.
146 to 142 needs a context. Are you male? How tall are you?
"bmcky" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:
Cubit said:
Robochallenge: http://www.delorie.com/health/adslc/
311/152.8/145 month-start: 153.2 monthly-goal: 4 since: 01/12/2003
I'm dropping my goal from 150 to 145. The lower belly bulge and upper

arm
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
fat have reduced by about 40% in just the last month. However, the lower
belly looks like it must be at least 5 pounds of fat. Unfortunately,

the
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
body will probably still prioritize taking fat from other areas. I don't
want to lose fat from the rest of my body, but it seems to be the price

I'll
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
have to pay to get the damn lower belly bulge off. My waist size is

still
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
to large too. It is about 39 and should be 36.
Fat, as an organ, has a full vasculature and other supporting structures.

I
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
have wondered if part of my problem is that what looks and feels like a
bulge of fat, may be largely a nest of blood vessels. Also, they say,

that
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
once fat cells are created for obesity, that they do not go away. They

only
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
reduce in size. Having once had a huge belly with about a 64 waist, it

is
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
conceivable that I will be left with the extra fat cells taking up a few
inches because they have reached minimum cell size.
I'm going to try to take it off anyway.
Cubit
Cubit -
I vaguely recall seeing/hearing something similar about fat cells
after a diet, and that was a lot of the reasoning behind lyposuction.
More as a means to dispose of the brown fat cells than for weight
reduction. I also remember going on a diet (quite awhile ago, too)
where at the end, I had similar bulges remainging that only went away
as I approached to within 4 lbs of my weight goal. In other words, my
goal at the time was 142, and the remaing bulges didn't begin receding
until I'd gotten under 146. Hopefully, I'll reexperience the same
phenomina this coming spring. Keep us/me posted.
bmcky
Boston, MA

Hi Cubit -
I'm a 5'6" male, and this was quite awhile ago. I'd forgotten all
about it until I'd read your post and recalled how good that felt at
the time. I could be wrong on the exact figure, but I distinctly
remember that it was only after losing the 4 - 7 lbs or so, that made
a difference in my own own waistline. Also, my max weight at that
time was less than 170, so I don't there were that many brown cells to
begin with.
Assuming I make it back to around that level again, I'm going to
seriously consider liposuction to remove those cells. Hang in there,
you're so close to it now. 🙂
bmcky
Boston, MA
bmcky

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Cubit
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10 September 2005, 14:02 UTC #11

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OmManiPadmeOmelet
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27 September 2005, 17:03 UTC #14

Alright, WTF is a "robochallenge"???
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Om.
"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

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Roger Zoul
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27 September 2005, 17:10 UTC #15

OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
:: Alright, WTF is a "robochallenge"???
Pay attention, dear! 🙂
http://www.delorie.com/health/adslc/

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OmManiPadmeOmelet
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27 September 2005, 17:22 UTC #16

In article <[email hidden]>,
Roger Zoul said:
OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
:: Alright, WTF is a "robochallenge"???
Pay attention, dear! 🙂
http://www.delorie.com/health/adslc/
Ah, a monthly goal challenge. ;-)
Ok, once I get back in the "swing" of things, I might consider
participating.
In the meantime, I don't need the pressure! <lol>
Cheers!
Om
273/223/150
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Om.
"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

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Ryan Case
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27 September 2005, 18:35 UTC #17

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:
In article <[email hidden]>,
Roger Zoul said:
OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
:: Alright, WTF is a "robochallenge"???
Pay attention, dear! 🙂
http://www.delorie.com/health/adslc/
Ah, a monthly goal challenge. ;-)
Ok, once I get back in the "swing" of things, I might consider
participating.
In the meantime, I don't need the pressure! <lol>
Cheers!
Om
273/223/150
I would think that it would be a snap with your current sadistic eating
plan.
It's working well for me anyway.
Ryan

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Ryan Case
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27 September 2005, 18:35 UTC #18

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:
In article <[email hidden]>,
Roger Zoul said:
OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
:: Alright, WTF is a "robochallenge"???
Pay attention, dear! 🙂
http://www.delorie.com/health/adslc/
Ah, a monthly goal challenge. ;-)
Ok, once I get back in the "swing" of things, I might consider
participating.
In the meantime, I don't need the pressure! <lol>
Cheers!
Om
273/223/150
I would think that it would be a snap with your current sadistic eating
plan.
It's working well for me anyway.
Ryan

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OmManiPadmeOmelet
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27 September 2005, 19:56 UTC #19

In article <[email hidden]>,
Ryan Case said:
OmManiPadmeOmelet said:
In article <[email hidden]>,
Roger Zoul said:
OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
:: Alright, WTF is a "robochallenge"???
Pay attention, dear! 🙂
http://www.delorie.com/health/adslc/
Ah, a monthly goal challenge. ;-)
Ok, once I get back in the "swing" of things, I might consider
participating.
In the meantime, I don't need the pressure! <lol>
Cheers!
Om
273/223/150
I would think that it would be a snap with your current sadistic eating
plan.
You mean the protein fast? :-)
That only works if you can stick with it...... <lol>
I'm doing ok, but we shall see!
I'll post numbers again at the end of October.
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It's working well for me anyway.
Ryan
Awesome!
What meat are you eating?
Chicken [censored] get expensive after awhile!
--
Om.
"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

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Ryan Case
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27 September 2005, 20:29 UTC #20

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:
In article <[email hidden]>,
Ryan Case said:
OmManiPadmeOmelet said:
In article <[email hidden]>,
"Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
>:: Alright, WTF is a "robochallenge"???
>
>Pay attention, dear! 🙂
>
>http://www.delorie.com/health/adslc/
>
>
Ah, a monthly goal challenge. ;-)
Ok, once I get back in the "swing" of things, I might consider
participating.
In the meantime, I don't need the pressure! <lol>
Cheers!
Om
273/223/150
I would think that it would be a snap with your current sadistic eating
plan.
You mean the protein fast? :-)
the lmmpsmf, right? Then, yeah, that's what I mean.
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That only works if you can stick with it...... <lol>
I'm doing ok, but we shall see!
I'll post numbers again at the end of October.
I figure on starting to post numbers about then.
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
It's working well for me anyway.
Ryan
Awesome!
What meat are you eating?
Chicken [censored] get expensive after awhile!
I have a huge salad with a can or two of tuna for lunch almost every day
of the week.
At night, Cod, or Salmon, or Shrimp. I am finding my appetite is quickly
dimenishing. Or chicken [censored]. Last night was diced checken [censored] with
diced green and red bell peppers cooked in a very hot skillet with about
an 1/8 teaspoon olive oil, and lemon juice and pepper. That and cucumber
wedges.
Breakfasts were the hard ones for me. In fact I submitted to Cohen
yesterday that "ebh" be a new MFW abbreviation for Egg-beater hate.
This morning I rinsed a can of smoked muscles under hot water and mixed
them into a cup and a half of ff cottage cheese. That was breakfast. I
think that I will smoke some salmon this weekend for next weeks breakfasts.
Oh, late night wanting munchies were hard too, but DC suggested celery
as a substitute for chips with salsa. That rocks.
On the weekends I pretty much live off protien shakes during the day,
and normal diet dinners. Vanilla with a lot of Cinamon added. That way I
get a break from the foods I am eating all week.
My only real falter so far was a piece of cheese at my mom's last
Sunday. I am an absolute cheese fanatic and she had a sharp/bleu/sharp
wedge that she had bought. I had about and 1/8th of an ounce.
Ryan

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